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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2201 on: April 08, 2026, 11:42:46 am »
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Iran just bombed a key oil pipeline in Saudi’s Arabia. They continue to attack Israel. They opened the Strait today for 2 ships but are threatening to close it again.

They’re not serious.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2202 on: April 08, 2026, 11:44:33 am »

https://twitter.com/allenanalysis/status/2041883556784353299

I seem to remember Trump on the Apprentice chastising a contestant for the vague use of the word "they"

Wisely I think he told them that terminology meant deflection, confusion, or downright falsifying.  Hmmm.
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« Reply #2203 on: April 08, 2026, 11:46:49 am »
Agree. I’ve grown weary of it, it seems.

@DCPatriot - I once sold a home to a three-generation Indian family. One of my more unpleasant experiences.

Yesterday, I watched my state elect an extreme liberal to the Supreme Court and it troubled me terribly. So now, I’m going to watch the wildlife in my unbelievably peaceful yard. It is better for the soul.

Hope you are on the mend @Luis Gonzalez.

Peace.

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My Iranian referral pool were all 'retired' generals or other assorted former Shah Regime officials back in 1980 who fled to the D.C. Region.

Had to morph into another culture...like working in a Rug Bazaar.

The Indians also have a strong sense that everything is negotiable...it's in their DNA.

Remember...we're talking way before cell phones and fax machines.  Had to drive all over the damed county to get a simple "INITIAL" or signature    :silly:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2204 on: April 08, 2026, 11:51:51 am »
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My Iranian referral pool were all 'retired' generals or other assorted former Shah Regime officials back in 1980 who fled to the D.C. Region.



Dealt with one about 35 years ago in Houston at a Rug dealer.  Made the Persian rug purchase, and at the register I noticed the register price was way over floor price.  Seems they failed to inform me of the 20% import fee. 

No Sale!!!

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2205 on: April 08, 2026, 11:53:52 am »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2206 on: April 08, 2026, 11:54:01 am »
Dealt with one about 35 years ago in Houston at a Rug dealer.  Made the Persian rug purchase, and at the register I noticed the register price was way over floor price.  Seems they failed to inform me of the 20% import fee. 

No Sale!!!

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See??  There you have it!!  "The Large Print Giveth...The Small Print Taketh Away!"

BOMBS AWAY!!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2208 on: April 08, 2026, 12:02:05 pm »
Agree. I’ve grown weary of it, it seems.

@DCPatriot - I once sold a home to a three-generation Indian family. One of my more unpleasant experiences.

Yesterday, I watched my state elect an extreme liberal to the Supreme Court and it troubled me terribly. So now, I’m going to watch the wildlife in my unbelievably peaceful yard. It is better for the soul.

Hope you are on the mend @Luis Gonzalez.

Peace.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2209 on: April 08, 2026, 12:08:41 pm »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041898398211530831
So START BOMBING! There are no human chains, they all dispersed. No warning, no deadline, bomb the $H!T out of them.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2211 on: April 08, 2026, 12:26:24 pm »
Someone needs to slap Trump. You cannot make a 'deal' with savage barbarians in a fanatical religious Death Cult.
"Bridge and Power Plant Day" should be put back on the front burner.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2212 on: April 08, 2026, 12:28:48 pm »

https://twitter.com/allenanalysis/status/2041883556784353299


Now we learn that the magic duo of Witkoff & Kushner were the negotiators. Pieces of the deal are falling into place, slowly ...
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2213 on: April 08, 2026, 12:30:10 pm »
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If we completely disarmed Iran, why do we have to sign an agreement with Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz? A completely disarmed Iran would not be able to threaten ships passing through the strait.

Something is not adding up here.

Because they aren't disarmed and I believe Iran is being allowed to charge $200M for safe passage. 

At this point what 'deal' are we to believe??  Hegseth stood and said that our military would still be on 'stand by'.  Meanwhile reports of Iran continuing to bomb.

Perhaps even more unsettling is that our DEM and RINO Congress want to tie Trump's hands with the War Powers Act and/or articles of impeachment.  No funding?  No more conflict in Iran???  Who knows.

This two week vacation is accomplishing what for the U.S.??? 

Waiting for some positive news ....  :shrug:
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2214 on: April 08, 2026, 12:30:54 pm »
This "ceasefire" is gonna last about as long as did those between Israel and hamas.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth will have to learn "the hard way", it seems.

Want "peace" with iran?

Then THESE are the goals which must be achieved:
- US controls Straits of Hormuz into the immediate future (after, say, 10 years of "new" iranian governance, perhaps we may withdraw). Such control is going to require an occupational force that will extend 75-100 miles on either side of the strait, and extend inland by 50-100 miles.
- US seizes and holds Kharg Island. WE control the oil ouput, and will not interfere with the refining and shipping of same, and oil revenues will continue to iran, IF they accept our terms of surrender. Again, iranian control will be returned in about 10 years if they conform to rest of our terms.
- IRGC removed from power, and disbanded. Those who resist must be, well, "neutralized". "Regular" iranian army re-organized under our supervision. Of course, we're going to have to go in and TAKE control from them, with troops.
- mullahs and ayatollahs removed from power. Any civilian or military governmental organization which rules iran subject to our victory must abandon the position of "supreme leader".
- A new iranian constitution, written by US, a la MacArthur in postwar Japan. Input from the Persians will be accepted.

That's what we should be aiming for.
Yes, it's going to require ground forces.
And yes, there are going to be casualties -- perhaps a substantial number.
BUT... if we want victory, there's no getting around this.

Remember what Mr. Reagan said when it was asked how he wanted the Cold War to end?
"We win. They lose".
He knew how it works.

I used to end my posts with "sorry if you don't like this reply", which some folks have lambasted me for in another topic.

So... I'll change that to this:
I don't care whether you like this reply or not. I'm posting it anyway.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2215 on: April 08, 2026, 12:30:57 pm »

Now we learn that the magic duo of Witkoff & Kushner were the negotiators. Pieces of the deal are falling into place, slowly ...
Now we learn?  Seems like this was well known from the start.

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« Reply #2216 on: April 08, 2026, 12:33:40 pm »
Because they aren't disarmed and I believe Iran is being allowed to charge $200M for safe passage. 

At this point what 'deal' are we to believe??  Hegseth stood and said that our military would still be on 'stand by'.  Meanwhile reports of Iran continuing to bomb.

Perhaps even more unsettling is that our DEM and RINO Congress want to tie Trump's hands with the War Powers Act and/or articles of impeachment.  No funding?  No more conflict in Iran???  Who knows.

This two week vacation is accomplishing what for the U.S.??? 

Waiting for some positive news ....  :shrug:
I'm not sure where you got the 200M figure, but it's $2,000,000 per vessel.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2217 on: April 08, 2026, 12:33:54 pm »


I used to end my posts with "sorry if you don't like this reply", which some folks have lambasted me for in another topic.

So... I'll change that to this:
I don't care whether you like this reply or not. I'm posting it anyway.


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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2218 on: April 08, 2026, 12:34:35 pm »

Now we learn that the magic duo of Witkoff & Kushner were the negotiators. Pieces of the deal are falling into place, slowly ...

OMG!!! I guarantee Kushner isn't making a deal in the best interest of our country.  He is making a deal that's best for Jared. 

WTH is he doing over there in the first place???  9999hair out0000

Kushner could have also been the leaker - it wouldn't surprise me.    The press??  How did word make it to the press that there was another crew member in Iranian territory?  I think it would have to be someone closer to the President. 

Well, that leaves Vance off the hook for now.

Shouldn't Rubio be negotiating??? So the Iranians don't want him making a deal - - too bad.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2219 on: April 08, 2026, 12:35:10 pm »
Someone needs to slap Trump. You cannot make a 'deal' with savage barbarians in a fanatical religious Death Cult.
"Bridge and Power Plant Day" should be put back on the front burner.

And not telegraph it so they can do their California human chain shit.
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« Reply #2220 on: April 08, 2026, 12:35:37 pm »
This "ceasefire" is gonna last about as long as did those between Israel and hamas.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth will have to learn "the hard way", it seems.

Want "peace" with iran?

Then THESE are the goals which must be achieved:
- US controls Straits of Hormuz into the immediate future (after, say, 10 years of "new" iranian governance, perhaps we may withdraw). Such control is going to require an occupational force that will extend 75-100 miles on either side of the strait, and extend inland by 50-100 miles.
- US seizes and holds Kharg Island. WE control the oil ouput, and will not interfere with the refining and shipping of same, and oil revenues will continue to iran, IF they accept our terms of surrender. Again, iranian control will be returned in about 10 years if they conform to rest of our terms.
- IRGC removed from power, and disbanded. Those who resist must be, well, "neutralized". "Regular" iranian army re-organized under our supervision. Of course, we're going to have to go in and TAKE control from them, with troops.
- mullahs and ayatollahs removed from power. Any civilian or military governmental organization which rules iran subject to our victory must abandon the position of "supreme leader".
- A new iranian constitution, written by US, a la MacArthur in postwar Japan. Input from the Persians will be accepted.

That's what we should be aiming for.
Yes, it's going to require ground forces.
And yes, there are going to be casualties -- perhaps a substantial number.
BUT... if we want victory, there's no getting around this.

Remember what Mr. Reagan said when it was asked how he wanted the Cold War to end?
"We win. They lose".
He knew how it works.

I used to end my posts with "sorry if you don't like this reply", which some folks have lambasted me for in another topic.

So... I'll change that to this:
I don't care whether you like this reply or not. I'm posting it anyway.
I kind of like hearing your opinion.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2221 on: April 08, 2026, 12:36:23 pm »

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🇦🇪🇮🇷  Oil installations in Al-Fujairah (UAE) were targeted this afternoon.

The attack is being reported as retaliation for the earlier strike on Iran’s Lavan refinery.

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According to the Saudi Arabian Ministry of Defense, they have intercepted 9 Iranian drones in the past hours since the “ceasefire” went into effect. Iran has now launched drone and missile attacks against all their Gulf neighbors in the hours since the agreement with the U.S. went into effect.
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« Reply #2223 on: April 08, 2026, 12:37:28 pm »
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Lotta durn shootin' goin' on for a ceasefire.   :cool:

I'd say he's kinda turned orange-ish red this morning,.
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« Reply #2224 on: April 08, 2026, 12:37:37 pm »
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Explosions in Tehran…
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« Reply #2225 on: April 08, 2026, 12:37:47 pm »
And not telegraph it so they can do their California human chain shit.

Perhaps one should consider canceling those "Olive Garden" reservations tonight and sit by the TV or hang around here.
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« Reply #2226 on: April 08, 2026, 12:42:45 pm »
This "ceasefire" is gonna last about as long as did those between Israel and hamas.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth will have to learn "the hard way", it seems.

Want "peace" with Iran?

Then THESE are the goals which must be achieved:
- US controls Straits of Hormuz into the immediate future (after, say, 10 years of "new" Iranian governance, perhaps we may withdraw). Such control is going to require an occupational force that will extend 75-100 miles on either side of the strait, and extend inland by 50-100 miles.
- US seizes and holds Kharg Island. WE control the oil output, and will not interfere with the refining and shipping of same, and oil revenues will continue to Iran, IF they accept our terms of surrender. Again, Iranian control will be returned in about 10 years if they conform to rest of our terms.
- IRGC removed from power, and disbanded. Those who resist must be, well, "neutralized". "Regular" iranian army re-organized under our supervision. Of course, we're going to have to go in and TAKE control from them, with troops.
- mullahs and ayatollahs removed from power. Any civilian or military governmental organization which rules Iran subject to our victory must abandon the position of "supreme leader".
- A new Iranian constitution, written by US, a la MacArthur in postwar Japan. Input from the Persians will be accepted.

That's what we should be aiming for.
Yes, it's going to require ground forces.
And yes, there are going to be casualties -- perhaps a substantial number.
BUT... if we want victory, there's no getting around this.

Remember what Mr. Reagan said when it was asked how he wanted the Cold War to end?
"We win. They lose".
He knew how it works.

I used to end my posts with "sorry if you don't like this reply", which some folks have lambasted me for in another topic.

So... I'll change that to this:
I don't care whether you like this reply or not. I'm posting it anyway.

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I don't care whether you like this reply or not. I'm posting it anyway.
Good for you!!

I'm not sure 47 wants Victory, aka unconditional surrender, rather he seems to prefer some sort of deal. I have no idea why a deal is better than unconditional surrender.

But yeah, those points are what needs to happen ... if Victory is 47's goal.






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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2227 on: April 08, 2026, 12:43:31 pm »
Now we learn?  Seems like this was well known from the start.

No it was assumed but not known for certain.
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« Reply #2228 on: April 08, 2026, 12:45:07 pm »
Iran wants to delay, delay, delay for the Wars Powers Act to kick in.  They know Congress will be too squeamish to keep up the pressure on Iran.  Congressional peaceniks will allow Iranian regime to live to bomb another day.
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« Reply #2229 on: April 08, 2026, 12:45:49 pm »
Lotta durn shootin' goin' on for a ceasefire.   :cool:

I'd say he's kinda turned orange-ish red this morning,.

Its a unilateral US ceasefire, get it?
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« Reply #2230 on: April 08, 2026, 12:46:59 pm »

I used to end my posts with "sorry if you don't like this reply", which some folks have lambasted me for in another topic.

So... I'll change that to this:
I don't care whether you like this reply or not. I'm posting it anyway.

Why the need to justify your posts?  Why not just post what you want and if someone doesn't like it they can post a rebuttal that you can debate?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2232 on: April 08, 2026, 12:51:45 pm »

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NOW: Explosions in Tehran, Karaj and Esfahan.

Great ceasefire guys!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2233 on: April 08, 2026, 01:01:24 pm »
A victory lap turned into a victory step.  Can we please commence with the blowing of shit up again? Please mr Orange "lets make a deal" man?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2235 on: April 08, 2026, 01:12:41 pm »
Exclusive: How Iran's supreme leader reached a truce with Trump

https://www.axios.com/2026/04/08/exclusive-how-irans-supreme-leader-reached-a-truce-with-trump

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Officials in the U.S. and Israel learned of an intriguing development on Monday, with President Trump's ultimatum looming: Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei had instructed his negotiators, for the first time since the war began, to move towards a deal, according to an Israeli official, a regional official and a third source with knowledge.

The big picture: As Trump was publicly threatening total annihilation, there were signs of diplomatic momentum behind the scenes — though even sources close to Trump didn't know which outcome to expect right up until a ceasefire was announced.

U.S. forces in the Middle East and officials in the Pentagon spent those closing hours preparing for a massive bombing campaign on Iranian infrastructure, and trying to figure out where Trump was leaning. "We had no idea what was going to happen. It was wild," a defense official said.

Allies in the region were bracing for Iranian retaliation on an unprecedented scale. Inside Iran, some civilians were fleeing their homes in an attempt to avoid the brunt of the strikes.

This account of the diplomacy that staved off that escalation, for now, is based on conversations with eleven sources with knowledge of the talks.

EXCERPT

With all of that said, Trump seems surprised today that the Iranians are still shooting away at everybody.  Go figure!
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2236 on: April 08, 2026, 01:12:43 pm »
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“There is an updated plan, Iran has already conceded to many of those old points,” a U.S. official told Fox News.

The previous 10-point plan being circulated is not the latest framework, I’m told.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2238 on: April 08, 2026, 01:13:40 pm »
And not telegraph it so they can do their California human chain shit.

Exactly
That's what I thought the 'pause' was for. Call a ceasefire. Have Iran clear the bridges and other sites.
Then go in without saying anything and blow them all up 'in an hour' as Trump kept saying.
Unfortunately, I think Trump's team thinks Iran is actually serious.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2239 on: April 08, 2026, 01:16:19 pm »
George Clooney Smears President Trump as a ‘War Criminal’

Left-wing actor George Clooney is calling President Donald Trump a war criminal after Trump insisted he intended to erase away the oppressive Iranian Mullah’s “whole civilization.”

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2026/04/08/george-clooney-smears-president-trump-as-a-war-criminal/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2240 on: April 08, 2026, 01:16:26 pm »
Someone needs to slap Trump. You cannot make a 'deal' with savage barbarians in a fanatical religious Death Cult.
"Bridge and Power Plant Day" should be put back on the front burner.

I think he knows that, I also think he knows that time is running out via the War Powers Act.  Congress obviously has been notified and it will soon be up to them to make a decision on whether or not to tie his hands or let him continue.

So -- the DEMS and RINO's will nix any future involvement.  Mid-terms are just around the corner.

Just my two cents.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2241 on: April 08, 2026, 01:18:07 pm »
Exactly
That's what I thought the 'pause' was for. Call a ceasefire. Have Iran clear the bridges and other sites.
Then go in without saying anything and blow them all up 'in an hour' as Trump kept saying.
Unfortunately, I think Trump's team thinks Iran is actually serious.

Perhaps Hegseth, Kushner and Witcoff.... General Caine gave Trump a warning that Iran cannot be trusted.  When has Trump ever listened -- except to his weasel SIL?
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2242 on: April 08, 2026, 01:19:39 pm »


The previous 10-point plan being circulated is not the latest framework, I’m told.

Damone's 5-point plan is making more sense right now..

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2243 on: April 08, 2026, 01:24:44 pm »
Exactly
That's what I thought the 'pause' was for. Call a ceasefire. Have Iran clear the bridges and other sites.
Then go in without saying anything and blow them all up 'in an hour' as Trump kept saying.
Unfortunately, I think Trump's team thinks Iran is actually serious.

Trump's team headed by the famous duo of Witkoff & Kershner. Now you know the rest of the story.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2244 on: April 08, 2026, 01:26:56 pm »
This "ceasefire" is gonna last about as long as did those between Israel and hamas.
Mr. Trump and Mr. Hegseth will have to learn "the hard way", it seems.

Want "peace" with iran?

Then THESE are the goals which must be achieved:
- US controls Straits of Hormuz into the immediate future (after, say, 10 years of "new" iranian governance, perhaps we may withdraw). Such control is going to require an occupational force that will extend 75-100 miles on either side of the strait, and extend inland by 50-100 miles.
- US seizes and holds Kharg Island. WE control the oil ouput, and will not interfere with the refining and shipping of same, and oil revenues will continue to iran, IF they accept our terms of surrender. Again, iranian control will be returned in about 10 years if they conform to rest of our terms.
- IRGC removed from power, and disbanded. Those who resist must be, well, "neutralized". "Regular" iranian army re-organized under our supervision. Of course, we're going to have to go in and TAKE control from them, with troops.
- mullahs and ayatollahs removed from power. Any civilian or military governmental organization which rules iran subject to our victory must abandon the position of "supreme leader".
- A new iranian constitution, written by US, a la MacArthur in postwar Japan. Input from the Persians will be accepted.

That's what we should be aiming for.
Yes, it's going to require ground forces.
And yes, there are going to be casualties -- perhaps a substantial number.
BUT... if we want victory, there's no getting around this.

Remember what Mr. Reagan said when it was asked how he wanted the Cold War to end?
"We win. They lose".
He knew how it works.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2245 on: April 08, 2026, 01:27:06 pm »
Democrat Senators Claim Victory for Iran: ‘What a Disaster’

Senate Democrats are essentially declaring victory for Iran following the ceasefire agreement, with Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) deeming it a “disaster.”

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2246 on: April 08, 2026, 01:28:49 pm »
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Iran confirms that it has agreed to the ceasefire agreement-Fars

Iran adds that the US accepted its 10-point proposal as the basis for negotiations, including Iranian control of Hormuz, full compensation for war damages, and the withdrawal of American forces from the region.

CNN Fell for Fake Iran 'Victory' Claim — Trump Just Destroyed Them for It

https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2026/04/08/cnn-fell-for-fake-iran-victory-claim-trump-just-destroyed-them-for-it-n4951567

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If you needed another reminder that the legacy media will run with anything that fits the narrative, CNN just handed you a perfect case study.

On Tuesday morning, Trump threatened Iran to open the Strait of Hormuz or else. By Tuesday evening, Trump had announced a two-week ceasefire and the reopening of the strait.

Nothing is assured, and anything can happen, but this was a positive development. So, what did CNN do? The left-wing network blasted out a headline claiming Iran had scored a “great victory” over the United States. The network attributed the claim to Iran’s Supreme National Security Council and reported that Tehran had forced the U.S. into accepting a sweeping 10-point plan.

There was just one problem: The statement wasn’t real.

President Donald Trump wasted no time calling it out.

“The alleged Statement put out by CNN World News is a FRAUD, as CNN well knows,” Trump wrote on Truth Social. To really drive the point further, he even pointed out where the fake statement came from. “The false Statement was linked to a Fake News site (from Nigeria) and, of course, immediately picked up by CNN, and blared out as a ‘legitimate’ headline.”
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2248 on: April 08, 2026, 01:37:52 pm »
George Clooney Smears President Trump as a ‘War Criminal’

Left-wing actor George Clooney is calling President Donald Trump a war criminal after Trump insisted he intended to erase away the oppressive Iranian Mullah’s “whole civilization.”

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2026/04/08/george-clooney-smears-president-trump-as-a-war-criminal/

During WWII Gen Curtis Lamay firebombed Japan.  Had the US lost WWII, Lamay would have been tried as a war criminal.

Fast forward to the USA today.
 
If trumps wins the war with Iran, he will be tried as a war criminal.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2249 on: April 08, 2026, 01:41:49 pm »
Trump's team headed by the famous duo of Witkoff & Kershner. Now you know the rest of the story.

Indeed I do.  It is unfortunate.  How many real-estate deals did Kushner make and how much $$$ is he lining his pockets with.

Meanwhile .... where is our Secy' of State in all of this???? Isn't he the one that should be negotiating?  I haven't read anything about him lately and it seems he's been put on the back burner and his role in the ME has been made insignificant??

The secretary of state can conduct negotiations, interpret, and terminate treaties relating to foreign policy. The secretary also can participate in international conferences, organizations, and agencies as a representative of the United States.

Kushner has NO official position, nor does he have any business representing the United States.  So remind me again as to why he's over in the ME??  During Trump's first presidency, he was his senior advisor and while he was in the ME made a deal with the Saudi's.  I wonder what kind of deal he made this time and with whom? 
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