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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2102 on: April 08, 2026, 08:43:51 am »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041850495623426264

How about we just hand reins over to Bibi for this whole damned thing? 

I like his style of negotiations better anyway,. 
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2103 on: April 08, 2026, 08:47:45 am »
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Iran announced a ceasefire with the United States and Israel, but fresh video evidence shows the regime immediately violated it by launching missiles at multiple targets across the region.

Despite the public declaration of a pause in hostilities, Iranian forces continued firing at Israel, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and the UAE. The attacks came within hours of the announced truce, proving once again that the mullahs cannot be trusted at the negotiating table.




Hardly surprising. It was never a proper closure.


Ceasefire null and void.

https://defiantamerica.com/irans-ceasefire-is-a-lie-new-videos-show-targets-they-hit-immediately-after-announcing

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2104 on: April 08, 2026, 08:49:45 am »
Jeffries: Two-Week Ceasefire ‘Insufficient’, Need ‘Permanent’ End, Trump Might Give Iran Control of Strait

On Tuesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “AC360,” House Minority Leader Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) stated that the two-week Iran ceasefire “is insufficient. We need a permanent end” to the war and also said that Iran having control of the Strait of Hormuz “would be an extraordinary outcome, but not surprising, given the fact that what we’ve seen from Donald Trump is that he’s plunged America into this war” without a plan.

Jeffries said, “Well, a two-week ceasefire is insufficient. We need a permanent end to Donald Trump’s reckless war of choice, which is why House Democrats have demanded that Speaker Rep. Mike Johnson (R-LA) immediately reconvene the House back into session so we can move a war powers resolution that will end this conflict permanently.”

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2105 on: April 08, 2026, 08:49:59 am »
Trump, Iran Agree to Two-Week Ceasefire
 
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7 Apr 2026Washington, DC

President Donald Trump and the Islamic Republic of Iran both announced on Tuesday evening just before the U.S. president’s deadline for a deal that they have agreed to a two-week ceasefire while negotiators finalize a deal between the warring nations.

Trump took to his Truth Social platform to announce that he has agreed to the ceasefire urged by the Pakistani Prime Minister:


The Iranian Foreign Minister confirmed that Iran has also agreed to the two-week ceasefire:


Israel has also agreed to the ceasefire, per CNN, which quoted a White House official. “Israel is part of the two-week ceasefire President Donald Trump announced just an hour and a half before his deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz or face escalated military attacks on civilian infrastructure, a senior White House official tells CNN,” CNN reported. “Israel has agreed to also suspend its bombing campaign while negotiations continue, the official said.”

This latest development comes after Trump had significantly escalated his rhetoric in recent days, and as recently as Tuesday morning threatened to wipe the entire Iranian civilization off the planet.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2026/04/07/trump-iran-agree-to-two-week-ceasefire/
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2106 on: April 08, 2026, 08:51:21 am »
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2108 on: April 08, 2026, 08:52:50 am »
One little side note.... one strategic bit of that is being overlooked is that Trump is endorsing (creating) a toll and surcharge system that is adding to the bottom line of doing oil business in the Middle East.  It is no secret that the Middle East has strategic advantages over us in areas of cheaper safety, environmental, labor, transportation costs etc, etc,. etc.

Trump's idea will level that playing field, and make the U.S. more competitive on the world oil markets.   The whole idea sucks on security, but he thinks there are some side benefits economically.  But, OTOH, if he somehow does able to some how wrangle positive regime change?   He'll come out looking like a genius.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2109 on: April 08, 2026, 08:54:08 am »
Threads merged. Please do not start a separate thread for every new development in the conflict. Post here.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2110 on: April 08, 2026, 08:57:05 am »
 
Last UpdateApril 8, 2026, 8:31 AM EDT
President Trump’s ceasefire with Iran draws praise from world leaders
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Wednesday he supports President Donald Trump’s two-week ceasefire with Iran. In a Truth Social post, Trump suggested Iran was ready to reach a peace agreement and said the U.S. would help manage traffic in the Strait of Hormuz.

Covered by: Greg Norman-Diamond, Michael Sinkewicz and Elizabeth Pritchett
 
President Donald Trump agreed to a two-week ceasefire with Iran on Tuesday. The move came after talks with Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, who urged Trump to delay any further U.S. military action while both sides continued to negotiate.

Trump said Wednesday that the U.S. would help manage traffic in the Strait of Hormuz, which was effectively shut down by Iran early in the conflict, disrupting a significant portion of the global energy supply. Before Operation Epic Fury began, the narrow waterway between Iran, Oman and the United Arab Emirates had typically carried roughly 20 million barrels of oil a day, along with about one-fifth of global liquefied natural gas.

Leaders from Israel, Germany, the United Kingdom and Australia are among those coming out in support of the U.S. ceasefire agreement with Iran. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his country "supports the U.S. effort to ensure that Iran no longer poses a nuclear, missile and terror threat to America, Israel, Iran's Arab neighbors and the world." Netanyahu explicitly said the ceasefire does not apply to Lebanon, meaning Israel could continue targeting Iran-backed Hezbollah terrorists there.

Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates are reporting fresh attacks from Iran on Wednesday, involving dozens of drones. The regime in Tehran has been targeting its neighbors across the Middle East during Operation Epic Fury.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-us-iran-war-ceasefire-strait-hormuz-israel-live-updates-04-08-2026?msockid=3b701755bb476c19307f0067bac36d9e
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2111 on: April 08, 2026, 08:58:46 am »
Official Statement
April 7, 2026 (2585/1405)
Addressing Iran's Military Call to Action, April 7, 2026, Reza Pahlavi

https://rezapahlavi.org/en/statements/call-to-action-addressing-iran-military-april-7-2026
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2112 on: April 08, 2026, 09:02:45 am »
Official Statement
April 7, 2026 (2585/1405)
Addressing Iran's Military Call to Action, April 7, 2026, Reza Pahlavi

https://rezapahlavi.org/en/statements/call-to-action-addressing-iran-military-april-7-2026

Okay Shah, jr.  don your Khaki's and lead the charge. 

Wow, preaching like this from 7000 miles away?  So much for your standing as opposition leader.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2113 on: April 08, 2026, 09:19:03 am »
Official Statement
April 7, 2026 (2585/1405)
Addressing Iran's Military Call to Action, April 7, 2026, Reza Pahlavi

https://rezapahlavi.org/en/statements/call-to-action-addressing-iran-military-april-7-2026

This is good, and should have been Trump's strategy all along, instead of pinning hopes on some grassroots revolution from within Iran which has not happened yet.  Work with Pahlavi (who actually has a valid claim to legitimacy as the successor to the old Persian Empire, like the King of England), separate the Iranian regular military (the "Artesh") from the IRGC, and use it to topple the Islamic regime to restore Pahlavi rule, who was a strong ally to America before Carter betrayed him and Iran back in 1979.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Republic_of_Iran_Army

This has been wargamed out before so I don't know why Trump is still trying to deal with some surviving thug in the IRGC to make peace when he's got a guy ready to go who has that legitimacy in place and can get the backing of the Iranian army to finally get rid of mullah rule.

As an aside, the worst mistake that Rumsfeld and Bremer made in Iraq was disbanding the Iraqi Army, instead of keep its troops on the payroll and using them to rebuild the country and squash the Sunni and IRCG-sponsored terrorists.

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2114 on: April 08, 2026, 09:21:30 am »
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Hegseth: Iran’s new regime realized ceasefire deal was ‘far better than the fate that awaited them'

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said Wednesday that Iran’s new regime struck a ceasefire deal with President Donald Trump because they "understood that a deal was far better than the fate that awaited them.”

“You see, had Iran refused our terms, the next targets would have been their power plants, their bridges and oil and energy infrastructure. Targets they could not defend and could not realistically rebuild. It would have taken them decades. And we were locked and loaded. They couldn't defend against it,” Hegseth said.

“President Trump had the power to cripple Iran's entire economy in minutes. But he chose mercy. He spared those targets because Iran accepted the ceasefire under overwhelming pressure,” Hegseth added. “The new Iranian regime understood that a deal was far better than the fate that awaited them.”

“This new regime just happened to look at what happened to their predecessors. Their top leadership was systematically eliminated. The previous Iranian supreme leader, dead. The Supreme National Security Council secretary, dead. The supreme leader office advisor, dead. The supreme leader military office chief, dead. The defense minister no longer with us. The IRGC commander, dead. The armed forces general staff commander, dead. The intelligence minister, dead. The IRGC Navy commander, no longer here. The IRGC Intel chief, dead,” Hegseth told reporters at the Pentagon, recalling U.S. military action during Operation Epic Fury.

“I skipped over a bunch, and I could go on and on and on to include the new so-called new supreme leader, wounded and disfigured. This new regime was out of options and out of time. So they cut a deal,” Hegseth added.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2115 on: April 08, 2026, 09:22:28 am »
Caine says US struck more than 13,000 targets during 38-day assault on Iran

The U.S. military struck more than 13,000 targets since the beginning of Operation Epic Fury against Iran on Feb. 28, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Air Force Gen. Dan Caine announced Wednesday.

“Since the beginning of major combat operations, the United States Joint Force has struck more than 13,000 targets, including in that 13,000, more than 4,000 dynamic targets that popped up on the battlefield and were immediately addressed thanks to the exceptional command and control system and intelligence acumen and agility of our joint force,” Caine said.

“CENTCOM forces destroyed approximately 80% of Iran's air defense systems, striking more than 1,500 air defense targets, more than 450 ballistic missile storage facilities, 801 one-way attack drones storage facilities,” Caine added. “All of these systems are gone.”

"We've devastated Iran's command and control and logistical networks, destroying more than 2,000 command and control nodes and degrading their ability to target U.S. and friendly forces,” he also said. “It is, and we know this, incredibly frustrating right now to be a lower-level Iranian commander trying to fight your fight.”

Caine said at the Pentagon that the U.S. has sunk approximately 90% of the Iranian Navy’s regular fleet.

“It will take years for Iran to rebuild any major surface combatants, as more than 20 naval production and fabrication facilities have been damaged or destroyed, and nearly 80% of Iran's nuclear industrial base was hit, further degrading their attempts to attain a nuclear weapon,” Caine also said.
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2116 on: April 08, 2026, 09:23:26 am »
US forces 'not going anywhere' to ensure Iranian compliance, Hegseth says

American forces will remain in the Middle East to make sure Iran’s regime sticks with the terms of President Donald Trump’s new ceasefire deal, according to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.

"We'll be hanging around. We're not going anywhere,” Hegseth said at the Pentagon. “We're going to make sure Iran complies with the ceasefire and then ultimately comes to the table and makes a deal. 

“So we'll stay put, stay ready, stay vigilant,” he added. “As the chairman laid out, our troops are prepared to defend, prepared to go on offense, prepared to restart at a moment's notice with whatever target package would be needed in order to ensure that Iran complies.”

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Air Force Gen. Dan Caine said earlier that U.S. military is ready to resume combat with the “same speed and precision as we've demonstrated over the last 38 days” if Iran doesn’t hold up to the terms of the ceasefire deal.
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Hegseth says US achieved 'decisive military victory,' Iranian forces 'combat ineffective for years'

Secretary of War Pete Hegseth said Wednesday that the United States has achieved a “decisive military victory” against Iran in Operation Epic Fury.

"To the precision campaign that obliterated Iran's nuclear sites in Operation Midnight Hammer to the decisive military victory we just achieved in Operation Epic Fury --- no other president has shown the courage and resolve of this commander in chief,” Hegseth told reporters at the Pentagon, a day after President Donald Trump announced a two-week ceasefire with Iran.

“President Trump forged this moment,” Hegseth added. “Iran begged for this ceasefire, and we all know it.”

"As the president Truthed this morning, a big day for world peace. Iran wants it to happen, they've had enough,” Hegseth also said, referencing an earlier post by the president to Truth Social. “Operation Epic Fury was a historic and overwhelming victory on the battlefield. A capital V military victory. By any measure, Epic Fury decimated Iran's military and rendered it combat ineffective for years to come.”
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2117 on: April 08, 2026, 09:38:12 am »
From reply 2103 above:
"Iran announced a ceasefire with the United States and Israel, but fresh video evidence shows the regime immediately violated it by launching missiles at multiple targets across the region."

I have only one word to say regarding this "truce":
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« Reply #2118 on: April 08, 2026, 09:39:20 am »
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Hegseth: Iran’s new regime realized ceasefire deal was ‘far better than the fate that awaited them'



He got that right.  Yesterday the Mullahs thought they were being bombed into the stone age.  24 hours later?  They'll be reaping in billions in Strait toll/surcharge extortion.

Spin away Petey.....



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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2120 on: April 08, 2026, 09:41:00 am »
US forces 'not going anywhere' to ensure Iranian compliance, Hegseth says

American forces will remain in the Middle East to make sure Iran’s regime sticks with the terms of President Donald Trump’s new ceasefire deal, according to Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.



i.e -  "Easy terrorist targets". Did this administation take stupid pills last night?
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« Reply #2121 on: April 08, 2026, 09:41:54 am »
I wish Trump would listen to Keane

Gen Jack Keane 'skeptical' that Iran ceasefire will hold, warns Tehran will 'delay and obfuscate'

Trump announced a two-week pause after receiving a 10-point proposal he called 'a workable basis' to negotiate

By Taylor Penley Fox News
Published April 8, 2026 8:49am EDT

Retired four-star Gen. Jack Keane expressed doubt that the Iran ceasefire will hold, arguing Tehran is exploiting the pause to delay and ease pressure while testing whether the U.S. has "the stomach" to restart the fight.

"I am skeptical about where we’re heading with the Iranians because I flat don’t trust them, and I don't like taking the pressure off them by going to a ceasefire, which is what they want in any event to force the United States to stop the war," Keane said Tuesday on "Jesse Watters Primetime."

"We have done that, admittedly only temporarily, but we've got to see what's in that deal."

He warned that Tehran has a long track record of using negotiations to buy time, calling Iranian leaders "experts at obfuscating and delaying deals" who "lie and promise and don’t deliver."

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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2122 on: April 08, 2026, 09:42:19 am »

Hegseth: Iran’s new regime realized ceasefire deal was ‘far better than the fate that awaited them'


What new regime is that, Pete?
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« Reply #2123 on: April 08, 2026, 09:42:27 am »
How about we just hand reins over to Bibi for this whole damned thing? 

I like his style of negotiations better anyway,.
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« Reply #2124 on: April 08, 2026, 09:42:38 am »
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Isn’t kinda wild how Trump does a thing...

The media says he’s absolutely crazy for like a week straight and it’s all we hear about…

But then that thing works out like, spectacularly well…

…and the media never circles back to tell us it worked out????
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« Reply #2125 on: April 08, 2026, 09:43:09 am »
What new regime is that, Pete?
The surviving leaders? :shrug:

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« Reply #2127 on: April 08, 2026, 09:45:18 am »
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« Reply #2128 on: April 08, 2026, 09:45:36 am »
Well JD Vance is cooked, Rubio is cooked, and anyone in this administration is done politically.  Trump 24 hours ago was going to genocide Iran, and now he says he will form a JV with them to extort shipping companies.  His temporal lobe is 80% Jell-O.
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« Reply #2129 on: April 08, 2026, 09:45:45 am »
Jeffries: Two-Week Ceasefire ‘Insufficient’, Need ‘Permanent’ End, Trump Might Give Iran Control of Strait

On Tuesday’s broadcast of CNN’s “AC360,” House Minority Leader Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) stated that the two-week Iran ceasefire “is insufficient. We need a permanent end” to the war and also said that Iran having control of the Strait of Hormuz “would be an extraordinary outcome, but not surprising, given the fact that what we’ve seen from Donald Trump is that he’s plunged America into this war” without a plan.

Jeffries said, “Well, a two-week ceasefire is insufficient. We need a permanent end to Donald Trump’s reckless war of choice, which is why House Democrats have demanded that Speaker Rep. Mike Johnson (R-LA) immediately reconvene the House back into session so we can move a war powers resolution that will end this conflict permanently.”

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Great.  So the DEMS per the War Powers Act won't allow continued U.S. 'oversight' nor will they open up the purse strings should another conflict arise (and most already know that's going to happen).
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« Reply #2131 on: April 08, 2026, 09:47:13 am »

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2041857693380485462
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Re: Live Thread: War With Iran Continues #3
« Reply #2133 on: April 08, 2026, 09:49:05 am »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041859980219789539

"BREAKING: SecWar Pete Hegseth demands Iran get the "carrier pigeon" to their troops who keep firing off missiles"


Pete are you this naive?  Does the admin reallyistration think the Mullahs have any level of honor in meeting truce obligations?  I am getting worried now.
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« Reply #2134 on: April 08, 2026, 09:49:55 am »

There remains uncertainty on what was agreed and what has happened behind the scenes.

Perhaps the US was given a permanent military presence by several Gulf countries? 
Maybe the US was really low on missiles and drones?

Who knows?  Without knowledge here, we are all just guessing.

We need to have some faith that leadership in Executive and the Military executed what happened in the best scenario for our country's interest.

What we do know is Iran has been weakened by the removal of leadership and military might.
And Iran knows we can strike them with impunity.

Let's see how this plays out.
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« Reply #2136 on: April 08, 2026, 09:50:28 am »
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You have to “love” the media: per media, if you bomb, you are a war monger, if you don’t, you are a chicken. This is a very very serious time with important decisions to be made and no one can predict the future but the media needs to report facts without the commentary.


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« Reply #2137 on: April 08, 2026, 09:50:35 am »
@Idiot Move your IDIOT @$$ there and you tell us after a year or two.
There was a window of opportunity here that the world could sustain high oil prices, that window was closing fast.  We got done what we could do within that window....

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« Reply #2139 on: April 08, 2026, 09:51:34 am »

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2041854883523940744

Would really love to know exactly what Gen. Caine thinks about the past 24 hours.  I can guess. 
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« Reply #2140 on: April 08, 2026, 09:51:45 am »
Well JD Vance is cooked, Rubio is cooked, and anyone in this administration is done politically.  Trump 24 hours ago was going to genocide Iran, and now he says he will form a JV with them to extort shipping companies.  His temporal lobe is 80% Jell-O.
Of those who declared, my choice was DeSantis, but there would have been several good candidates if MAGA had not decided to sacrifice the country for their own amusement.

DeSantis was my choice as well.  It didn't happen ... so time to move on and deal with the hand we were dealt; Trump/Vance.

No, I am not happy with this ceasefire not in the least.

IIRC though Iran refused to further negotiate with Rubio, they wanted Vance.  Vance was not enthused about Trump's plan to bomb Iran in the first place.  Vance has been given much credit for this ceasefire.  Right now it looks like Vance is sitting in the hot seat should this backfire.  Vance IMO is very weak and uninformed on foreign policy. As things stands now, I wouldn't vote for him.

I believe Rubio wouldn't have agreed to this cease fire.

Caine has warned that Iran can't be trusted and certainly Hegseth should know better.

We'll see what transpires.
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« Reply #2141 on: April 08, 2026, 09:53:04 am »
Would really love to know exactly what Gen. Caine thinks about the past 24 hours.  I can guess.

He's already commented and warned that Iran cannot be trusted.  Trump obviously is not heeding his advice.
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Live in  harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all.

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« Reply #2143 on: April 08, 2026, 09:54:41 am »
There remains uncertainty on what was agreed and what has happened behind the scenes.

Perhaps the US was given a permanent military presence by several Gulf countries? 
Maybe the US was really low on missiles and drones?

Who knows?  Without knowledge here, we are all just guessing.

We need to have some faith that leadership in Executive and the Military executed what happened in the best scenario for our country's interest.

What we do know is Iran has been weakened by the removal of leadership and military might.
And Iran knows we can strike them with impunity.

Let's see how this plays out.

You have always been a calm voice of reason, but on the surface this sure appears to be a CF.  I hope you are right
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« Reply #2145 on: April 08, 2026, 09:55:45 am »
One little side note.... one strategic bit of that is being overlooked is that Trump is endorsing (creating) a toll and surcharge system that is adding to the bottom line of doing oil business in the Middle East.  It is no secret that the Middle East has strategic advantages over us in areas of cheaper safety, environmental, labor, transportation costs etc, etc,. etc.

Trump's idea will level that playing field, and make the U.S. more competitive on the world oil markets.   The whole idea sucks on security, but he thinks there are some side benefits economically.  But, OTOH, if he somehow does able to some how wrangle positive regime change?   He'll come out looking like a genius.

The tolls and surcharge system 47 is creating will only drive the price of oil & gas higher, certainly not lower.

Positive regime change means killing all the IRGC and the Arabs that run the country, else the whole thing has been a fool's errand, and a total waste of US munitions.
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« Reply #2146 on: April 08, 2026, 09:57:28 am »
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The reality is, these negotiations are awful for America and they only embolden the terrorist regime in Iran.

Luckily President Trump wasn’t in charge of the negotiations. That’s what we all need to remember when the ceasefire that isn’t a ceasefire fails and Americans are attacked and killed by Iranian proxies or the IRGC.

Trump understands the real danger and threat posed by the Iranian regime, which is why people around him (I’m sure we can all figure out who planted the NY Times story) stabbed him in the back yesterday by leaking private Situation Room conversations to @nytimes
 to pretend like they were against the war when many of these people are on the record supporting the war themselves.

Iran will continue being a threat to the US and Western civilization until the regime is wiped out.

People who think you can negotiate with the regime don’t understand how brutal their Islamic ideology is.

President Trump will be proven right in the end and those who negotiated with Islamic terrorists will be made to look like fools.

We are already losing the midterms due to the incompetence of GOP Reps who refused to codify President Trump’s agenda in my opinion, so you might as well destroy the regime.
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« Reply #2147 on: April 08, 2026, 09:58:49 am »
Okay Shah, jr.  don your Khaki's and lead the charge. 

Wow, preaching like this from 7000 miles away?  So much for your standing as opposition leader.

Very bracing - the name calling - for a post without comment or text. Thanks for nothing.
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Looks like Iran is still attacking Saudi oil infrastructure despite the ceasefire agreement.

A suicide drone just struck a pumping station on the East-West Oil Pipeline. It was used for sending oil to a Red Sea port, bypassing the blocked Hormuz Strait in recent weeks
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BREAKING: IRAN THREATENS TO CLOSE STRAIT IF LEBANON BOMBING DOES NOT STOP

As expected, Iran is sticking up for their allies Hezbollah

The Head of the Iranian Parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee just said the following:

"After the Israeli aggression on Lebanon, all plans to open the Strait of Hormuz must immediately cease until there are assurances that Lebanon is included in the ceasefire.

The brothers in Hezbollah have fought alongside us, given martyrs for the cause, and been our dear ally and suffered enough oppression and hardship.

There is either a ceasefire on all fronts, or a ceasefire nowhere at all."
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