LIVE THREAD: US and Israel vs. Iran, Part Two

[catfish1957]

How many Democrats vote consistently strict Party line? 

And are they fellow ideologues or rather just too scared to vote their conscience?

I don't know about the scare factor, but Nanzi was infamous for holding a metaphorical dagger to the neck of dim dissenters....

I am not sure about Hackeem,  but watch any given few hours on C-Span during legislation, and see how the tally not only is consistent, it gets up there on the board quite rapidly,. 

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2030690550102245590

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/SGTWipper1Each/status/2030681196967907706

[Cyber Liberty]

I don't about the scare factor, but Nanzi was infamous for hold a metaphorical dagger to the neck of dim dissenters....

I am not sure about Hackeem,  but watch any given few hours on C-Span during legislation, and see how the tally not only is consistent, it gets up there on the board quite rapidly,.

Last week the House Democrats tried to pass a Resolution to stop the bombing of Iran and could only scare up 53 votes...Temu Obama doesn't seem to have the power of San Fran Nan.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/shanaka86/status/2030642221608042573

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2030672147446686163

[Cyber Liberty]

https://twitter.com/shanaka86/status/2030642221608042573

Jam it.  Deny the Chinese the SigInt.

[240B]

Lots of talk this morning on the news about so called 'troops on the ground'.
Will America put troops on the ground? The answer is always, No.
Will Israel put troops on the ground? The answer is always, No.

Trust me. Both America and Israel already have personnel in Iran.
They are not so stupid to start discussing it. The 'troops' they need are already 'on the ground'.

[Free Vulcan]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
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36m
The price of gas has gone up $0.47 and the price of diesel has gone up $0.83 in 10 days due to War with Iran.

and waging war costs American taxpayers about $1 billion per day,

which comes out to $10 per family per day, or $100 since the war began.

This isn’t America First.

I tire of the Doctrinaires. They walk around in big powdered wigs and priestly robes criticizing everything done by others but do nothing themselves.

Worried about billions Congressman? We have multi billions of fraud happening and I have yet to see your happy butt getting off the stool to do something about it, and would rather preen for the cameras.

Physician, heal thyself.

[DCPatriot]

Lots of talk this morning on the news about so called 'troops on the ground'.
Will America put troops on the ground? The answer is always, No.
Will Israel put troops on the ground? The answer is always, No.

Trust me. Both America and Israel already have personnel in Iran.
They are not so stupid to start discussing it. The 'troops' they need are already 'on the ground'.

Nope...beg to differ @240B

President Trump has to prosecute this war like an Altar Boy, according to protocol.

No way would he give the global media complex any 'evidence' of American "TROOPS" 'on the ground'.

[BobfromWB]

Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, March 7 2026

The Kremlin confirmed that Russia is transferring intelligence to Iran

Western media reports that Moscow is providing Tehran with intelligence on the situation in the Middle East, specifically the location of American warships and aircraft, have been confirmed. A Kremlin source emphasized that this is not surprising.

Moreover, the Presidential Administration believes that the situation in the Middle East should not affect the negotiation process with the Americans. However, several interlocutors acknowledged that the intensity of contacts has clearly decreased.

The transfer of intelligence information about US Navy ships to Iran was agreed upon with Vladimir Putin [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6858 ].

https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6874

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/shanaka86/status/2030642221608042573

IMO of course China is sharing info with Iran -- somehow this needs to be dealt with. They're not breaking any laws but that vessel isn't out there just for pleasure.

[libertybele]

Kremlin snuffbox/Кремлевская табакерка, March 7 2026

The Kremlin confirmed that Russia is transferring intelligence to Iran

Western media reports that Moscow is providing Tehran with intelligence on the situation in the Middle East, specifically the location of American warships and aircraft, have been confirmed. A Kremlin source emphasized that this is not surprising.

Moreover, the Presidential Administration believes that the situation in the Middle East should not affect the negotiation process with the Americans. However, several interlocutors acknowledged that the intensity of contacts has clearly decreased.

The transfer of intelligence information about US Navy ships to Iran was agreed upon with Vladimir Putin [ https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6858 ].

https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6874

Both Russia and China feeding information to Iran is creating a dangerous game of chess.

[240B]

Nope...beg to differ @240B

President Trump has to prosecute this war like an Altar Boy, according to protocol.

No way would he give the global media complex any 'evidence' of American "TROOPS" 'on the ground'.

True. That is why they are never called, "TROOPS". Call them medics, advisors, teachers, trainers, reconstruction personnel, whatever.
As long as you don't call them 'troops' then everything is allowed.

[PeteS in CA]

This was the perfect opportunity to act against Iran.

Regarding Reagan

It would have been a full-scale war
No public or congressional appetite existed post-Vietnam
The Soviet Union was strong
No support from the gulf states
The U.S. simply had no viable way of ending Iran

Reagan had to handle the USSR, which still was almost 10 years from collapsing.

GHWB had to work through the USSR's collapse and had to respond to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.

Clinton started mini-wars in the Balkans and had interns to do.

GWB had the fall-out of 9/11.

OhBummer! started @#$% in Libya and Syria and had jetsetting to do.

Trump 1.0 was hobbled by the politics of the Trump-Russia-Collusion-Delusion, Shampeachment 1.0 and had to deal with Covid.

LIEden had ant-Trump lawfare to coordinate, bikini girls to watch at Rehoboth Beach, and tapioca pudding to eat.

Trump 2.0 had near-nuclear Iran to deal with, did and is, and is working to end the 47-year-old Iranian war on America.

Clinto, OhBummer!, and LIEden had geo-political space to deal with Iran, didn't, and the latter two shoveled billions of $$$$$ to Iran.

[berdie]

Both Russia and China feeding information to Iran is creating a dangerous game of chess.

Yes, they are.

[DB]

Jam it.  Deny the Chinese the SigInt.

Or a "stray" Iranian missile strike...

[PeteS in CA]

Can you explain this:  The Iran-Contra Affair

Besides the Nicaragua part of the picture, Reagan helped two US enemies grind each other down (assuming you remember that at that time, Iraq and Iran were engaged in a multi-year war against each other).

[BobfromWB]

From reply 879 above:
"US President Trump considers plan to seize Iran's Kharg Island, a key oil export hub in the Persian Gulf, Axios reports."

From reply 881 above:
"The Pentagon says ground forces may be the only way to secure Iran's uranium..."

You KNEW this was coming, right?
(after all, I've been warning about it in numerous earlier posts)

Not mentioned as well, a large ground force will be required to seize that portion of Iran that abuts the Straits of Hormuz, to create a large "safety zone" there in order to guarantee free passage of ships through the Straits.

And on top of that, a requisite number of troops will be required to hunt down remaining missiles, ammo, nuclear material and labs, etc. Are you gonna trust "UN inspectors" on this?

Perhaps the military will even to oversee some governmental operations as well -- a la Japan after the surrender there.

How many thousands of troops will this require?
30,000?
40,000?
Don't know yet.
But it will be substantial.

Having said all that, I will say one more thing:
This is "the cost" of VICTORY.
If you want to WIN (I do), then you have to be willing to "pay the price".
Are you...?

Did you really, really, really believe we could just bomb them into submission...?

Sorry if you don't like this reply.

Sadly, you are correct. Either that or risk the rise of the remaining Arab muslims and their insane Shia 12er "religion".

There is not a single war that was ever won by air power or artillery alone. Wars, pursued to victory, always require killing the last remaining guy willing to die for his cause, up close and personal. And sometimes that means killing a lot or "civilians" - women and children. There is no such thing as a "kinder gentler war".

47 has no choice if he wants unconditional surrender but to use many troops to create it. His problem is he has not explained that not taking out the Mad Mullahs & their proxies, would mean a nuclear war begun by the Mad Mullahs.

Probably this omission has to do with broaching to the public what Islam really stands for. Its kinda' unavoidable, if people are to understand just how dedicated to the elimination of the entire human race the Mad Mullahs actually are.

"Sorry if you don't like this reply."

[Cyber Liberty]

Besides the Nicarague part of the picture, Reagan helped two US enemies grind each other down (assuming you remember that at that time, Iraq and Iran were engaged in a multi-year war against each other).

She doesn't even recall that Islamists were taking new hostages after the 52 Iranian Embassy personnel returned home in early 1981.

[libertybele]

Sadly, you are correct. Either that or risk the rise of the remaining Arab muslims and their insane Shia 12er "religion".

There is not a single war that was ever won by air power or artillery alone. Wars, pursued to victory, always require killing the last remaining guy willing to die for his cause, up close and personal. And sometimes that means killing a lot or "civilians" - women and children. There is no such thing as a "kinder gentler war".

47 has no choice if he wants unconditional surrender but to use many troops to create it. His problem is he has not explained that not taking out the Mad Mullahs & their proxies, would mean a nuclear war begun by the Mad Mullahs.

Probably this omission has to do with broaching to the public what Islam really stands for. Its kinda' unavoidable, if people are to understand just how dedicated to the elimination of the entire human race the Mad Mullahs actually are.

"Sorry if you don't like this reply."

All  I can say is don't underestimate 47.

[PeteS in CA]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
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36m
The price of gas has gone up $0.47 and the price of diesel has gone up $0.83 in 10 days due to War with Iran.

and waging war costs American taxpayers about $1 billion per day,

which comes out to $10 per family per day, or $100 since the war began.

This isn’t America First.

Here in Silicon Valley, the price of gas is about 20 cents per gallon more than it was in December 2024, after being lower or much lower for well over a year. HOWEVER gas is still lower than the high (2024? 2023?) under LIEden.

That stoooooopid and false argument aside (RINO Never-Trumpers gotta lie), ending the 47 year war by Iran against the US is "putting America first".

[libertybele]

Or a "stray" Iranian missile strike...

One never knows .... 

[BobfromWB]

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/2030675141567381565

The storm drains exploded due to all the volatile gases released from the oil.

[bigheadfred]

Israel Defense Forces
@IDF
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11m
🔴ELIMINATED: Abu al-Qassem Baba’iyan, the new Head of the Military Office of the Supreme Leader and the Chief of Staff of the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters.

Baba’iyan was responsible for coordinating between the Iranian terror regime’s various force employment organizations to execute operations and emergency operations.

His elimination joins a series of eliminations of senior figures in the Iranian terror regime conducted by the IDF since the beginning of Operation Roaring Lion and prior to it.

[BobfromWB]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
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36m
The price of gas has gone up $0.47 and the price of diesel has gone up $0.83 in 10 days due to War with Iran.

and waging war costs American taxpayers about $1 billion per day,

which comes out to $10 per family per day, or $100 since the war began.

This isn’t America First.

Not having Iranian nukes land on our soil is America First, or would you prefer to take a few hits, Tommy boy?

[Cyber Liberty]

The storm drains exploded due to all the volatile gases released from the oil.

That was fun to watch....

[DCPatriot]

The storm drains exploded due to all the volatile gases released from the oil.

Had to be somewhat terrifying to experience your drainage sewer system violently explode. 

[BobfromWB]

I don't know about the scare factor, but Nanzi was infamous for holding a metaphorical dagger to the neck of dim dissenters....

I am not sure about Hackeem,  but watch any given few hours on C-Span during legislation, and see how the tally not only is consistent, it gets up there on the board quite rapidly,.

There was a famous interview on TV back when Nixon was running for President, where the reporter asked some random Democrat voter why he was going to vote for Hubert Humphrey. The man replied, "He's a Democrat, isn't he?"

[BobfromWB]

https://twitter.com/SGTWipper1Each/status/2030681196967907706

The B-1B has a maximum theoretical payload capacity of 125,000 pounds;
The B-2 Spirit stealth bomber has an official maximum payload capacity of 40,000 pounds.

[BobfromWB]

Shanaka Anslem Perera - now there's a trust worthy name

[BobfromWB]

Clinton started mini-wars in the Balkans and had interns to do. While he was selling every military secret he could get his grubby paws on to the Chinese for "campaign" cash, and allowing the Chinese to have full access to all US Navy ships and exercises.

[Fishrrman]

BobfromWB wrote in reply 968:
"Probably this omission has to do with broaching to the public what islam really stands for. Its kinda' unavoidable, if people are to understand just how dedicated to the elimination of the entire human race the Mad Mullahs actually are.
"Sorry if you don't like this reply.""

I did like your reply.

Sooner or later, Westerners (if they wish to REMAIN "Westerners" and not become dhimmis, as Western Europeans are in the process of becoming) are going to have to realize the most important truth of our lives:
It is not "radical islam" or only "mad mullahs" that want to conquer us.
It IS islam itself.

Or to put it another way:
islam delenda est.

Once more, "Fishrrman's wordy choice":
At some point in the future, you will face the choice of saying out loud:
1. The fourteen words
or
2. The shahada.

If you're not willing to speak and fight for option 1, you will be forced at swordpoint to recite option 2.

Choose.
(and if you don't know to what I'm referring above, you'd better find out)

And again:
Sorry if you didn't like this reply.

[BobfromWB]

Or a "stray" Iranian missile strike...

A stray Mk 48 would work better.

[BobfromWB]

All  I can say is don't underestimate 47.

Right, but do not underestimate 47's naivety either ...

[bigheadfred]

https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/2030703006732394875

[Idiot]

https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/2030703006732394875

[BobfromWB]

BobfromWB wrote in reply 968:
"Probably this omission has to do with broaching to the public what islam really stands for. Its kinda' unavoidable, if people are to understand just how dedicated to the elimination of the entire human race the Mad Mullahs actually are.
"Sorry if you don't like this reply.""

I did like your reply.

Sooner or later, Westerners (if they wish to REMAIN "Westerners" and not become dhimmis, as Western Europeans are in the process of becoming) are going to have to realize the most important truth of our lives:
It is not "radical islam" or only "mad mullahs" that want to conquer us.
It IS islam itself.

Or to put it another way:
islam delenda est.

Once more, "Fishrrman's wordy choice":
At some point in the future, you will face the choice of saying out loud:
1. The fourteen words
or
2. The shahada.

If you're not willing to speak and fight for option 1, you will be forced at swordpoint to recite option 2.

Choose.
(and if you don't know to what I'm referring above, you'd better find out)

And again:
Sorry if you didn't like this reply.

Be sure to read the five "holy" book of Islam:

"To understand what is being said [ in the koran ], you must read the Hadiths and Sunnahs which chronicle the life and sayings of Muhammad, these are Talibari, Muslim, Isaq and Bukhari;

The "Hadiths are Mohammad's word to his followers, the Sunnahs are the history of Muhammad and his motto (sic) was "Kill, kill, kill"  -- Prophet of Doom

--
When you learn that the Islamic Paradise holds only 72,000 according to Mohammed, you might start looking for a religion more expansive or roomy Paradise ...

[240B]

Tucker should go and join up with Carville.
They are BOTH TDS raving lunatics.
(i used to like Tucker, before he went insane)

[libertybele]

Right, but do not underestimate 47's naivety either ...

I would have said that about 45  -- 47 has learned a lot with time and able to watch the world stage for awhile and he is pretty darn smart. He has made some tough choices and he has been right so far.

[libertybele]

Tucker should go and join up with Carville.
They are BOTH TDS raving lunatics.
(i used to like Tucker, before he went insane)

 

[bigheadfred]

Faytuks Network
@FaytuksNetwork
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41m
NEW: A ship has reportedly been attacked off the coast of Oman, with initial reports indicating the strike was carried out using a suicide boat, according to Mehr News.

[mystery-ak]

Tucker should go and join up with Carville.
They are BOTH TDS raving lunatics.
(i used to like Tucker, before he went insane)

I used to really like Tucker until he went insane..

[mystery-ak]

This is a bad look..George Bush learned his lesson not to play golf while the US was at war with Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://twitter.com/RepJeffries/status/2030712998663225456

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/RealBababanaras/status/2030699213085086090

[libertybele]

This is a bad look..George Bush learned his lesson not to play golf while the US was at war with Iraq and Afghanistan.

https://twitter.com/RepJeffries/status/2030712998663225456

Besides his rallies, golf is his outlet in dealing with stressful situations. 

I for one have no problem with him playing a few rounds of golf to de-stress. We need him around, especially now.

As for Jeffries, well, he can kiss my grits!

[Smokin Joe]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie
·
36m
The price of gas has gone up $0.47 and the price of diesel has gone up $0.83 in 10 days due to War with Iran.

and waging war costs American taxpayers about $1 billion per day,

which comes out to $10 per family per day, or $100 since the war began.

This isn’t America First.

You're right, of course, Mr Massie. We should have waited until they had a warhead, stuck it on a missile and launched on DC from a freighter offshore.

We'd save a few trillion a year then.

[bigheadfred]

U.S. Central Command
@CENTCOM
·
1h
CENTCOM Update

TAMPA, Fla. – Last night, a U.S. service member passed away from injuries received during the Iranian regime’s initial attacks across the Middle East. The service member was seriously wounded at the scene of an attack on U.S. troops in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia on March 1.

This is the seventh service member killed in action during Operation Epic Fury. Major combat operations continue. The identity of the fallen warrior will be withheld until 24 hours after next of kin notification.

[DCPatriot]

You're right, of course, Mr Massie. We should have waited until they had a warhead, stuck it on a missile and launched on DC from a freighter offshore.

We'd save a few trillion a year then.

    

[bigheadfred]

Visegrád 24
@visegrad24
·
1h
BREAKING:

At least 2 people  killed and 12 injured after an Iranian ballistic missile struck near Al-Kharj in Saudi Arabia