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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/us-senators-say-secretary-state-marco-rubio-told-trumps-ukraine-peace-rcna245396

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Lawmakers critical of President Donald Trump’s approach to ending the Russia-Ukraine war said Saturday they spoke with Secretary of State Marco Rubio who told them that the peace plan Trump is pushing Kyiv to accept is a “wish list” of the Russians and not the actual proposal offering Washington’s positions.

A State Department spokesperson denied their account, calling it “blatantly false.”

Rubio himself then took the extraordinary step of suggesting online that the senators were mistaken, even though they said he was their source for the information. The secretary of state doubled down on the assertion that Washington was responsible for a proposal that had surprised many from the beginning for being so favorable to Moscow.

It all added up to a confusing — and potentially embarrassing — turn of events for a Trump administration-blessed peace plan that already faced a potentially rocky future.

The widely leaked 28-point U.S-backed peace plan was, according to the White House, the result of a month of work between Rubio and Trump envoy Steve Witkoff along with input from what it said was both Ukrainians and Russians. The plan acquiesces to many Russian demands that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has categorically rejected on dozens of occasions, including giving up large pieces of territory. Trump says he wants Ukraine to accept the plan by late next week.

“This administration was not responsible for this release in its current form,” said Republican Mike Rounds from South Dakota, speaking at a security conference in Canada. “They want to utilize it as a starting point.”

Rounds said “it looked more like it was written in Russian to begin with.”

The senators said they spoke to Rubio after he reached out to some of them while on his way to Geneva for talks on the plan. Independent Maine Sen. Angus King said Rubio told them the plan “was not the administration’s plan” but a “wish list of the Russians.”

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Sounds to me like this has become a total clusterfark for Rubio and Trump.


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Polish PM says it would be 'good to know' who wrote the plan to end war in Ukraine

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/nov/23/ukrainian-us-emergency-talks-plan-war-russia-live

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There have been lots of conflicting reports about who wrote the 28-point plan to end the war in Ukraine, which is widely seen to favour Russia as it endorses some of Moscow’s key maximalist positions.

A group of US senators say they were told by Marco Rubio that the plan is in fact not an American proposal and did not reflect Washington’s official position, claims heavily disputed by the US state department.

The senators claim that the secretary of state told them it was a Russian plan leaked by a representative from Moscow that the US had agreed to pass along to Ukraine to consider and then respond to.

“Secretary Rubio made a phone call to us this afternoon. I think he made it very clear to us that we are the recipients of a proposal that was delivered to one of our representatives. It is not our recommendation, it is not our peace plan. It is a proposal that was received,” Republican senator Mike Rounds, who sits on the Senate intelligence committee, was quoted as having said on Saturday.

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The plan, which endorsed some of Russia’s key demands, emerged after Russian envoy Kirill Dmitriev reportedly spent three days with his American counterpart Steve Witkoff in Miami.

Dmitriev is a key Putin ally and head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, one of Russia’s largest sovereign wealth funds.

Witkoff and US secretary of state Marco Rubio had been “quietly” working on the plan with both Russia and Ukraine for around a month, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters on Thursday. Rubio says the plan was “authored by the US.

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The plan is Witkoff's and Dmitriev's, and Dmitriev leaked it, leaving Rubio twisting in the wind.  Weasel words all overt the place, and Leavitt has no crediblity on this this thing.

https://nypost.com/2025/11/20/us-news/senior-us-officials-confirm-details-of-28-point-plan-to-end-ukraine-war/

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Senior US officials believe Dmitriev leaked the plan to Axios as a way to put their “their POV out there first [because] it seemed like they were winning,” one of the officials said. “This is just a tit for tat. Always has been.”

Witkoff appeared to have surmised the same in a quickly deleted post to X in response to the article Tuesday night.

“He must have got this from K,” Witkoff wrote of the Axios author, Barak Ravid — apparently meaning to send it as a DM referring to Dmitriev by his first initial.

To be fair, "K" is probably Kellogg instead of Dmitriev.
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Kellogg also got hung out to dry, which is why he's quitting.

Trump special envoy for Ukraine to leave post

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5614946-donald-trump-envoy-keith-kellogg-ukraine/

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President Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine, Keith Kellogg, will depart his position in January, the White House confirmed to The Hill on Thursday, as the president has renewed efforts to end Russia’s war against Kyiv. 

The White House did not provide any other details about the reasons for the departure of Kellogg, whose role and influence in the Trump administration elicited mixed reactions.

In one respect, he largely played a subordinate to Steve Witkoff, the president’s close friend and chief envoy to Russia, and whose negotiations with Russian President Vladimir Putin often drove Trump’s decisionmaking.

But Kellogg was praised by supporters as diligent in emphasizing the importance for the U.S. to back Ukraine in its defense against the Kremlin’s more than three-and-a-half-year war, often winning out when Trump grew frustrated with Putin.

Kellogg’s departure was first reported by Reuters, which cited four sources with knowledge of Kellogg’s departure, noting that January would be a natural ending point for his tenure, given the law.

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Zelensky must feel totally betrayed.
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Kellogg also got hung out to dry, which is why he's quitting.

Trump special envoy for Ukraine to leave post

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5614946-donald-trump-envoy-keith-kellogg-ukraine/

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Zelensky must feel totally betrayed.


We all should.
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