Netanyahu expecting to make ‘painful and significant’ concessions under Trump’s ceasefire plan: repo

[DefiantMassRINO]

Hamas lives to kill more Israeli's another day.

Hamas will probably keep moving the goal posts to avoid giving back all of the hostages, living or dead.

If Gazans, so much as, fire a bottlerocket into Israel, Dresden the place.

[Right_in_Virginia]

What's amazing, simply amazing, is that this is a regional agreement.  The whole neighborhood is invested in this proposal for a new chapter of peace, security and prosperity.  No one but Trump could envision this.

No one, but Trump.

[Hoodat]

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post

Trump states his proposal, if accepted by Hamas, would mean the release of all Israeli hostages within the next 72 hours.

2:39 PM · Sep 29, 2025  ·  2,949 Views

Good luck with that.  No faulting Trump here.  But Gaza does not want peace with Israel.

[mystery-ak]

Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
·
46s
Netanyahu: This can be a new beginning not just for Gaza, but for the entire region

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1972731992530977056

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1972733249920356852

[Right_in_Virginia]

Katie Pavlich
@KatiePavlich
·46s

Netanyahu: This can be a new beginning not just for Gaza, but for the entire region

What's amazing, simply amazing, is that this is a regional agreement.  The whole neighborhood is invested in this proposal for a new chapter of peace, security and prosperity.  No one but Trump could envision this.

No one, but Trump.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Dear Nobel Peace Prize Committee ...

[Hoodat]

The money quote:

All that Hamas needs to do now is ACCEPT THE PRINCIPLES FOR PEACE!

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1972740219863462295

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1972734598699528237

[Kamaji]

For Gazans, their desire to kill Jews supersedes their desire for the revitalization of Gaza.  You could offer them houses, jobs, and prosperity, yet they would still want Israel gone.

They have been offered that in the past, and they turned it down, preferring their jew-hatred over their own livelihood.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Good luck with that.  No faulting Trump here.  But Gaza does not want peace with Israel.

But, this time it's different.  This time it isn't Hamas v Israel.  This time it's Hamas v Israel and the Arabs. 

It is a moment that could change it all. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

 

Qatar, Egypt, UAE and others say they 'welcome' Trump's proposal to end war
ABC News, Sep 29, 2025

The foreign ministers of Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Turkey and Pakistan said they "welcome" President Donald Trump's proposed plan to end the war in Gaza.

"The ministers welcome the announcement by President Trump regarding his proposal to end the war, rebuild Gaza, prevent the displacement of the Palestinian people and advance a comprehensive peace, as well as his announcement that he will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” the foreign ministers said in a joint statement.

The foreign ministers said they are ready to "engage positively and constructively" with both the U.S. and other parties "toward finalizing the agreement and ensuring its implementation."


https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-live-updates-missile-launched-israel-yemen/?id=126029953

[Right_in_Virginia]

After the end of today's Trump/Netanyahu presser .....

Hamas receives Trump plan: Official

Qatar's prime minister and Egypt's intelligence chief just met with Hamas negotiators and shared President Donald Trump's 20-point plan to end the war in Gaza, an official told ABC News.

The Hamas negotiators said they would review it in good faith and provide a response, according to the official.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-live-updates-missile-launched-israel-yemen/?id=126029953

[Hoodat]

The Hamas negotiators said they would review it in good faith and provide a response, according to the official.

Hamas knows nothing about "good faith".

[DB]

It will only change when Palis love their children more than they love to kill Jews.

[Hoodat]

But, this time it's different.  This time it isn't Hamas v Israel.  This time it's Hamas v Israel and the Arabs. 

You mean Hamas and the Persians v. Israel and some of the Arabs.

Hamas has never gotten Arab support.  And this 'agreement' [sic] does nothing to change that.  Egypt, Jordan, etc. will agree to anything that keeps Palestinians out of their countries.

[Kamaji]

But, this time it's different.  This time it isn't Hamas v Israel.  This time it's Hamas v Israel and the Arabs. 

It is a moment that could change it all. 

Wait, wait, wait ....



Each and every bloody time it's the same f**king excuse - this time it'll be different.

Bull - f**king - shit.

[Right_in_Virginia]

You mean Hamas and the Persians v. Israel and some of the Arabs.

No, I mean it's good to see so many ME nations standing with the US and Israel to begin a new chapter.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump unveils 20-point Gaza cease-fire plan with him running ‘board of peace,’ warns Israel will ‘finish the job’ if Hamas objects
NY Post, Sep 29, 2025

WASHINGTON — President Trump formally unveiled a 20-point peace plan Monday calling for an international peacekeeping force in the Gaza Strip and a post-Hamas transitional government overseen by a “Board of Peace” — that Trump himself would lead as chairman.

Trump, 79, announced the plan alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the White House and said it could bring “eternal peace in the Middle East” — with eight Muslim-majority countries and the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority quickly joining Israel in embracing the blueprint.

“This is a beautiful day, potentially one of the great days ever in civilization,” Trump told reporters in the State Dining Room.

“We discussed how to end the war in Gaza. But it’s just a part of the bigger picture, which is peace in the Middle East, and let’s call it eternal peace in the Middle East.”

The governments of Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates issued a rare joint statement praising the framework.

The nations said they “welcome President Donald J. Trump’s leadership and his sincere efforts to end the war in Gaza” and “affirm their readiness to engage positively and constructively with the United States and the parties toward finalizing the agreement and ensuring its implementation.”

The Palestinian Authority, which rules parts of the West Bank and lost a 2007 civil war with Hamas for control of Gaza, said: “The State of Palestine welcomes the sincere and determined efforts of President Donald J. Trump to end the war on Gaza and affirms its confidence in his ability to find a path toward peace.”

Trump warned, however, that Israel would have his permission to “finish the job” if Hamas refused to sign on to the plan, saying that “Israel would have my full backing” in subsequent fighting.

Trump said at his press conference that “the leaders of the Arab world, Israel and everybody involved, asked me to” chair the proposed peace board board and floated the prospect of the deal leading to dramatic regional changes – including possible diplomatic relations between Israel and Iran.

Netanyahu confirmed that his government had agreed to the provisions, adding that Israel would finish the war and end Hamas rule of Gaza “the easy way” or “the hard way.”

The document released by the White House states that if all parties agree, “Gaza will be governed under the temporary transitional governance of a technocratic, apolitical Palestinian committee, responsible for delivering the day-to-day running of public services and municipalities for the people in Gaza.”

“This committee will be made up of qualified Palestinians and international experts, with oversight and supervision by a new international transitional body, the ‘Board of Peace,’ which will be headed and chaired by President Donald J. Trump, with other members and heads of State to be announced,” the paper says.

The only potential member Trump announced by name was former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who released a statement calling the plan “bold and intelligent.”


More:  https://nypost.com/2025/09/29/us-news/trump-unveils-20-point-gaza-cease-fire-plan-with-him-running-board-of-peace-warns-israel-will-finish-the-job-if-hamas-objects/

[Hoodat]

The Twenty-one Points

1.  Gaza will be a de-radicalized, terror-free zone that does not pose a threat to its neighbors.

The only way this can happen is if all current Palestinians who have been radicalized since age 4 are removed from Gaza.

3.  If Israel and Hamas agree to the proposal, the war will immediately end, with the IDF halting all operations and gradually withdrawing from the Strip.

Hamas will agree only to see Israeli troops withdrawn.  They won't follow through on anything.

4.  Within 48 hours of Israel publicly accepting the deal, all living and deceased hostages will be returned.

This won't be honored.  Hamas' excuse is that some other faction has this hostage, or that they don't know anything about that hostage.  Or that they kill all the remaining hostages before handing their corpses over.

6.  Once the hostages are returned, Hamas members who commit to peaceful coexistence will be granted amnesty, while members who wish to leave the Strip will be granted safe passage to receiving countries.

There won't be any countries receiving Hamas members.  And no Hamas member will commit to peaceful existence.  Their charter prohibits it.

9.  Gaza will be administered by a temporary, transitional government of Palestinian technocrats who will be responsible for providing day-to-day services for the people of the Strip.

The people of Gaza have already chosen their government.  A transitional government of technocrats will eventually be replaced by a government of Gaza's choosing - a government led by Hamas.

17.  If Hamas delays or rejects this proposal,  .  .  .

And there it is.  If Hamas rejects this proposal, then the entire proposal is dead.  Finished.  Kaput.  There cannot be a contingency that allows Hamas to  continue operating in Gaza.  Yet here it is - a gaping contradiction that negates the entire proposal.

20. When Gaza’s redevelopment has been advanced and the PA reform program has been implemented, the conditions may be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian statehood, which is recognized as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

That's just it.  Palestinian statehood has never been the aspiration of the Palestinian people.  Eliminating Israel has always been their true aspiration.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The Twenty-one Points

The only way this can happen is if all current Palestinians who have been radicalized since age 4 are removed from Gaza.

Hamas will agree only to see Israeli troops withdrawn.  They won't follow through on anything.

This won't be honored.  Hamas' excuse is that some other faction has this hostage, or that they don't know anything about that hostage.  Or that they kill all the remaining hostages before handing their corpses over.

There won't be any countries receiving Hamas members.  And no Hamas member will commit to peaceful existence.  Their charter prohibits it.

The people of Gaza have already chosen their government.  A transitional government of technocrats will eventually be replaced by a government of Gaza's choosing - a government led by Hamas.

And there it is.  If Hamas rejects this proposal, then the entire proposal is dead.  Finished.  Kaput.  There cannot be a contingency that allows Hamas to  continue operating in Gaza.  Yet here it is - a gaping contradiction that negates the entire proposal.

That's just it.  Palestinian statehood has never been the aspiration of the Palestinian people.  Eliminating Israel has always been their true aspiration.

Well, that's it then .....   

[DCPatriot]

No, I mean it's good to see so many ME nations standing with the US and Israel to begin a new chapter.   

@Right_in_Virginia

Realizing you don't really need encouragement, just wanted to tip my cap to your dogged determination to debate/defend your position on the Gaza/Hamas-Israel ceasefire.     

Perhaps, with Hamas being 'decimated' in the tower and in the street, they'll accept the terms offered.

Have a feeling the next outrage is going to be the number of hostages alive and what happened to the 'missing'.

[txradioguy]

"Unchained fighting"


 


We haven't seen Israel "unchained" in war since the 80's...maybe the 1973 Yom Kippur War before that.

[Right_in_Virginia]

                                                     Hamas knows nothing about "good faith".

Looks like Netanyahu has already grabbed this   Sceptre ----   

16. Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the United States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza

19. While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1972727086638055746

The Guardian Updates
Sep 30, 2025
4h ago
04.26 EDT

Benjamin Netanyahu says the IDF ‘will remain in most of the territory’

In a video statement published on his Telegram channel discussing his visit to the US, Benjamin Netanyahu said the IDF “will remain in most of the territory”as part of the plan drawn up with Trump, and that Israel did “absolutely not” agree to a Palestinian state. Netanyahu said:

It was a historic visit. Instead of Hamas leading to our isolation, we turned the tables and isolated Hamas. Now the entire world, including the Arab and Muslim world, is pressuring Hamas to accept the conditions we set together with President Trump: to release all our abducted – both living and dead – while the IDF remains in most of the territory.

Asked whether he had agreed to a Palestinian state during his visit, Netanyahu said:

Absolutely not, and it is not written in the agreement either. But one thing we did say: we are firmly opposed to a Palestinian state. President Trump also said this; he said he understands our position. He also declared at the UN that such a move would be a huge reward for terror and a danger to the state of Israel. And of course, we will not agree to it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/30/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-trump-peace-plan-latest-news-middle-east-crisis-live

[mystery-ak]

Trump Gaza Plan Wins Support of Arab, Muslim World — and Palestinian Authority

President Donald Trump’s proposal to end the Gaza war has not only won support from Israel, but also from the Arab and Muslim world — and from the Palestinian Authority, which has opposed his plans in the past.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/09/30/trump-gaza-plan-wins-support-of-arab-muslim-world-and-palestinian-authority/

[txradioguy]

For Gazans, their desire to kill Jews supersedes their desire for the revitalization of Gaza.  You could offer them houses, jobs, and prosperity, yet they would still want Israel gone.

Which is why Netanyahu said yesterday there are things like changing the books children are learning from that teach them to hate Jews and Israel...getting certain countries to recognize Israel as a country and putting a stop to state sponsored terrorism agaisnt Israel.


Getting people to the table to sign the agreement is the easy part.  The real heavy lifting comes after it's signed.

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Unchained fighting"

 

We haven't seen Israel "unchained" in war since the 80's...maybe the 1973 Yom Kippur War before that.

Gaza 2025:

[txradioguy]

They have been offered that in the past, and they turned it down, preferring their jew-hatred over their own livelihood.

They had a choice in 1948...their own country or kill jews.


As is their habit...they chose poorly.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Which is why Netanyahu said yesterday there are things like changing the books children are learning from that teach them to hate Jews and Israel...getting certain countries to recognize Israel as a country and putting a stop to state sponsored terrorism agaisnt Israel.

Doesn't sound like the plan calls for rewriting Palestinian books.

The effort to change hearts and minds would be rather fair and balanced ----

18.  An interfaith dialogue process will be established based on the values of tolerance and peaceful co-existence to try and change mindsets and narratives of Palestinians and Israelis by emphasizing the benefits that can be derived from peace.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1972727086638055746

[Kamaji]

They had a choice in 1948...their own country or kill jews.


As is their habit...they chose poorly.

Jew-haters have never let facts stand in the way of their hatred; as this thread demonstrates.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Realizing you don't really need encouragement, just wanted to tip my cap to your dogged determination to debate/defend your position on the Gaza/Hamas-Israel ceasefire.     

Thanks @DCPatriot   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Hamas under pressure as Trump issues deadline on Gaza peace plan
Reuters, Sep 30, 2025

DUBAI/CAIRO, Sept 30 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump gave Hamas three to four days on Tuesday to accept a U.S.-backed peace plan for Gaza, warning of "a very sad end" if the group rejected the proposal that he said was close to ending the two-year-old conflict.

Mediators Qatar and Egypt shared the 20-point plan with Hamas late on Monday after Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had appeared alongside Trump at the White House and endorsed the document, saying it satisfied Israel’s war aims.

[...]

CONSIDERABLE PRESSURE ON HAMAS

However, Hamas faces considerable pressure to accept the plan, with the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Egypt all welcoming the initiative.

Turkey's head of intelligence will join Qatari and Egyptian mediators in Doha to discuss the peace proposal later on Tuesday, a spokesperson for Qatar's foreign ministry said. Turkey has not previously been involved as a key mediator during efforts over the last two years to bring peace to Gaza.

It was unclear if Hamas officials would join Tuesday's meeting. The last time Hamas leaders gathered to discuss a U.S. peace plan in Qatar, Israel tried, and failed, to kill them with a missile strike.

Netanyahu apologised on Monday to his Qatari counterpart for the September 9 attack, the White House said.

Although he initially backed the Trump plan, Netanyahu later expressed doubts about elements of the proposal, including the prospects for eventual Palestinian statehood -- something he has repeatedly ruled out.

Netanyahu is under mounting pressure from a war-weary Israeli public to end the conflict. But he also risks the collapse of his governing coalition if far-right ministers believe he has made too many concessions for a peace deal.


More: 
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-weighs-its-response-trumps-gaza-peace-proposal-2025-09-30/

[libertybele]

Hamas is not interested in peace nor will they adhere to any agreement. They cannot be trusted.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Hostage families say ceasefire plan is 'historic turning point'

 The Hostages and Missing Families Forum -- a body supporting and advocating for the families of hostages being held in the Gaza Strip -- said in a statement that it was "profoundly grateful" after President Donald Trump proposed the new Gaza ceasefire framework on Monday.

"We stand at a historic turning point," the forum said in a statement. "President Trump has accomplished what many said was impossible."

"This is a historic agreement that will allow our people to heal, end the war and chart a new future for the Middle East," the body added, praising Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "for accepting President Trump’s initiative."

The ongoing fighting in Gaza, the forum said, "continues to endanger the fate of our hostages. There is no reason to risk their lives when Israel has adopted President Trump's historic initiative. The world must apply maximum pressure to ensure Hamas commits to this historic opportunity for peace."

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-live-updates-missile-launched-israel-yemen/?id=126029953

[Right_in_Virginia]

Hamas is not interested in peace nor will they adhere to any agreement. They cannot be trusted.

Don't be putting money on Netanyahu, just yet @libertybele  -----

From the proposal Netanyahu agreed to:

16. Israel will not occupy or annex Gaza. As the ISF establishes control and stability, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) will withdraw based on standards, milestones, and timeframes linked to demilitarization that will be agreed upon between the IDF, ISF, the guarantors, and the United States, with the objective of a secure Gaza that no longer poses a threat to Israel, Egypt, or its citizens. Practically, the IDF will progressively hand over the Gaza territory it occupies to the ISF according to an agreement they will make with the transitional authority until they are withdrawn completely from Gaza

19. While Gaza re-development advances and when the PA reform program is faithfully carried out, the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1972727086638055746

Netanyahu backtracking ---

The Guardian Updates
Sep 30, 2025
4h ago
04.26 EDT

Benjamin Netanyahu says the IDF ‘will remain in most of the territory’

In a video statement published on his Telegram channel discussing his visit to the US, Benjamin Netanyahu said the IDF “will remain in most of the territory”as part of the plan drawn up with Trump, and that Israel did “absolutely not” agree to a Palestinian state. Netanyahu said:

It was a historic visit. Instead of Hamas leading to our isolation, we turned the tables and isolated Hamas. Now the entire world, including the Arab and Muslim world, is pressuring Hamas to accept the conditions we set together with President Trump: to release all our abducted – both living and dead – while the IDF remains in most of the territory.

Asked whether he had agreed to a Palestinian state during his visit, Netanyahu said:

Absolutely not, and it is not written in the agreement either. But one thing we did say: we are firmly opposed to a Palestinian state. President Trump also said this; he said he understands our position. He also declared at the UN that such a move would be a huge reward for terror and a danger to the state of Israel. And of course, we will not agree to it.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/30/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-trump-peace-plan-latest-news-middle-east-crisis-live

[txradioguy]

Jew-haters have never let facts stand in the way of their hatred; as this thread demonstrates.

It's really sad to see so called "conservatives" defending people who hate Christians as much as they do Jews...with such voracity.

[libertybele]

Don't be putting money on Netanyahu, just yet @libertybele  -----

From the proposal Netanyahu agreed to:

Netanyahu backtracking ---

Asked whether he had agreed to a Palestinian state during his visit, Netanyahu said:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2025/sep/30/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-trump-peace-plan-latest-news-middle-east-crisis-live

It is unfortunate that Bibi is making any agreement. Again Hamas wil never adhere to terms settled on and this only give them time to prepare to strike again.  Bibi knows better.  Conceding is just plain wrong.

[libertybele]

It's really sad to see so called "conservatives" defending people who hate Christians as much as they do Jews...with such voracity.

Agreed. Very, very disheartening.

[Kamaji]

It's really sad to see so called "conservatives" defending people who hate Christians as much as they do Jews...with such voracity.

Agreed.

[Hoodat]

@Right_in_Virginia

Realizing you don't really need encouragement, just wanted to tip my cap to your dogged determination to debate/defend your position on the Gaza/Hamas-Israel ceasefire.     

@DCPatriot

I may be confused here about the purpose of the thread.  Is this about the peace plan itself, or is it about what a great job Trump is doing?  Because I believe Trump already knows this won't work.

Trump deserves a heck of a lot of credit here - both in his first term and now.  And what he has done here has not been to bring peace in the Middle East, but to position all these Arab states in a way where they have no course but to recognize that Hamas - not Israel - is the obstacle to peace.  So when this goes sour and Israel has to go in an finish the job, they will have already be in agreement supporting Israel.

The confusing part is that is not a sentiment that @Right_in_Virginia holds.  So in her praise of Trump here, I don't believe she has thought it through.

Hamas is the only obstacle here.  And Trump just made it OK for Israel to go into Gaza and completely eradicate them with Arab blessing.

[BobfromWB]

So, Trump continues to sell out US allies for the sake of his ego and his vanity.

It amounts to that, likely on the urging of the Royal Couple who screwed up his last go round [ Ivanka & Jared Kushner ].

[BobfromWB]

For Gazans, their desire to kill Jews supersedes their desire for the revitalization of Gaza.  You could offer them houses, jobs, and prosperity, yet they would still want Israel gone.

Jared Kushner does not think so, therefore Ivanka told her dad to follow her husband's sage advice, or she will have a fit. "The poor Palestinians are being genocided, you know! You must stop the war or more precious lives qill be lost, Dad. Please, pretty please!"

[BobfromWB]

Quote from: mystery-ak on September 29, 2025, 03:08:12 pm

    All that Hamas needs to do now is ACCEPT THE PRINCIPLES FOR PEACE!

All that Hamas needs to do now is to accept Israeli's surrender.

[BobfromWB]

But, this time it's different.  This time it isn't Hamas v Israel.  This time it's Hamas v Israel and the Arabs. 

It is a moment that could change it all. 

Yep this time Hamas will get major cash & arms inflows from the Muslim [ Arab ] nations, so they can make Oct 7 look like a schools fair. It will definitely change all, as Israel is broken apart by this idiotic effort by major idiots running US foreign policy.

[Right_in_Virginia]

It is unfortunate that Bibi is making any agreement.

Maybe he wants to fly over European countries again. 

Netanyahu's jet largely avoids European airspace in unusual route to New York
ABC News, Sep 25, 2025
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/netanyahus-jet-largely-avoids-european-airspace-unusual-route/story?id=125935906

Again Hamas wil never adhere to terms settled on and this only give them time to prepare to strike again.

Maybe.  But, in a first: Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates have also signed onto this proposal.  I'm willing to see their collective influence on Hamas --- this could be a game changer @libertybele

[Right_in_Virginia]

Yep this time Hamas will get major cash & arms inflows from the Muslim [ Arab ] nations, so they can make Oct 7 look like a schools fair. It will definitely change all, as Israel is broken apart by this idiotic effort by major idiots running US foreign policy.

  

Things can change @BobfromWB  ----- take a look:

Qatar, Egypt, UAE and others say they 'welcome' Trump's proposal to end war
ABC News, Sep 29, 2025

The foreign ministers of Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Turkey and Pakistan said they "welcome" President Donald Trump's proposed plan to end the war in Gaza.

"The ministers welcome the announcement by President Trump regarding his proposal to end the war, rebuild Gaza, prevent the displacement of the Palestinian people and advance a comprehensive peace, as well as his announcement that he will not allow the annexation of the West Bank,” the foreign ministers said in a joint statement.

The foreign ministers said they are ready to "engage positively and constructively" with both the U.S. and other parties "toward finalizing the agreement and ensuring its implementation."

https://abcnews.go.com/International/live-updates/israel-gaza-live-updates-missile-launched-israel-yemen/?id=126029953

The Abraham Accords are a series of U.S.-brokered agreements that established or normalized diplomatic relations between Israel and several Arab and Muslim-majority states, beginning in 2020. The accords initiated a new era of cooperation in the Middle East focused on shared economic and security interests.

Signatory nations
The initial peace declarations were signed at the White House on September 15, 2020, by Israel, the United Arab Emirates, and Bahrain. Other countries have since joined the normalization process.

Future outlook

Palestinian issue: Any significant expansion, particularly with Saudi Arabia, would depend on tangible progress toward resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Apr 15, 2024

Saudi Arabia has publicly acknowledged its involvement in aiding the newly formed regional military coalition in defending Israel against an Iranian attack.

The statement referenced a report by KAN News detailing Saudi Arabia's participation in the joint military defensive operation, which successfully thwarted an Iranian assault on Israel.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-east/artc-saudi-arabia-publicly-acknowledges-role-in-defending-israel-against-iranian-attack

Are Jordan and Saudi Arabia defending Israel?
Kersten Knipp
06/21/2025

Jordan shot down Iranian missiles and drones crossing overhead and Saudi Arabia likely allowed Israel to use its airspace to do so. That's despite both expressing opposition to Israel's attacks on Iran in public.

https://www.dw.com/en/saudi-arabia-jordan-israel-iran-war-united-states/a-72977996

[BobfromWB]

Things can change @BobfromWB  ----- take a look:

Things will change when Islam is removed from the Earth, not before - all of that above are just words on worthless paper - or for the muslim Arab so much taqiyya.

As soon as they get their way and feel comfortable, it will be back to killing Jews because it it in the koran.

There is no moderate Islam ...

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

I may be confused here about the purpose of the thread.  Is this about the peace plan itself, or is it about what a great job Trump is doing?  Because I believe Trump already knows this won't work.

Trump deserves a heck of a lot of credit here - both in his first term and now.  And what he has done here has not been to bring peace in the Middle East, but to position all these Arab states in a way where they have no course but to recognize that Hamas - not Israel - is the obstacle to peace.  So when this goes sour and Israel has to go in an finish the job, they will have already be in agreement supporting Israel.

The confusing part is that is not a sentiment that @Right_in_Virginia holds.  So in her praise of Trump here, I don't believe she has thought it through.

Hamas is the only obstacle here.  And Trump just made it OK for Israel to go into Gaza and completely eradicate them with Arab blessing.

@Hoodat

Was simply compelled to remark on the ongoing, never-ending insults thrown her way on the Bibi Netanyahu/Israel vs GAZA matter....a member here since the day the lights were turned on under GOPBriefingRoom aka TBR.

Accused of being an Anti-Semite??  IMO, that's a helluva broad brush

I don't agree with @Right_in_Virginia when it comes to Israel/USA relationship, but I respect her as a Conservative intellect and a pillar in this forum.