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John Marshall
« on: September 20, 2025, 12:31:31 pm »
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2025, 12:36:10 pm »
Real history instead of the BS you've been taught in public schools.
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2025, 01:23:08 pm »
Because Jeff Davis was such a man of unimpeachable character.
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2025, 05:42:58 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 20, 2025, 01:23:08 pm
Because Jeff Davis was such a man of unimpeachable character.

Compared to Lincoln, he was indeed.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2025, 10:10:01 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on September 20, 2025, 05:42:58 pm
Compared to Lincoln, he was indeed.
I think Lincoln would have acted the same as Marshall if he were head of SC, and results would be the same, to our country's detriment
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2025, 10:29:15 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on September 20, 2025, 01:23:08 pm
Because Jeff Davis was such a man of unimpeachable character.

Well, actually, Davis was well respected by most of his peers, North and South, during his lifetime.  He was a soldier, lawyer, Secretary of War, U.S. Senator, and a southern gentleman, and he was probably the best the Confederacy had to serve as President.  He was most certainly honest and generous to a fault.  So while he had his flaws, his personal integrity was never questioned, even after the war.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/biographies/jefferson-davis

https://news.wfu.edu/2009/02/12/jefferson-davis-as-president-of-the-confederacy/



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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #6 on: Today at 05:44:15 pm »
Quote from: Timber Rattler on September 20, 2025, 10:29:15 pm
Well, actually, Davis was well respected by most of his peers, North and South, during his lifetime.  He was a soldier, lawyer, Secretary of War, U.S. Senator, and a southern gentleman, and he was probably the best the Confederacy had to serve as President.  He was most certainly honest and generous to a fault.  So while he had his flaws, his personal integrity was never questioned, even after the war.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/biographies/jefferson-davis

https://news.wfu.edu/2009/02/12/jefferson-davis-as-president-of-the-confederacy/






That’s nice.  Doesn’t save his character. 
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #7 on: Today at 07:48:08 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on Today at 05:44:15 pm

That’s nice.  Doesn’t save his character.

People who actually knew the man have a very different opinion.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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« Reply #8 on: Today at 08:05:11 pm »
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People who actually knew the man have a very different opinion.

Yeah.  No.  Believing you have a God-given right to own other human beings doesn't really burnish one's resume. 
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #9 on: Today at 08:26:09 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on Today at 05:44:15 pm

That’s nice.  Doesn’t save his character.

And what was his character again?
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #10 on: Today at 08:29:34 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on Today at 08:05:11 pm
Yeah.  No.  Believing you have a God-given right to own other human beings doesn't really burnish one's resume.

Does that include George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, John Marshall himself, and 41 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence?
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #11 on: Today at 08:44:26 pm »
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Yeah.  No.  Believing you have a God-given right to own other human beings doesn't really burnish one's resume.

YOU have swallowed WAY too much Yankee BS.
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #12 on: Today at 08:45:38 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on Today at 08:44:26 pm
YOU have swallowed WAY too much Yankee BS.

No, I haven't.  Or are you seriously claiming that Jefferson Davis never owned slaves?
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Re: John Marshall
« Reply #13 on: Today at 08:49:08 pm »
Quote from: Kamaji on Today at 08:45:38 pm
No, I haven't.  Or are you seriously claiming that Jefferson Davis never owned slaves?

NEVER said that and you know it. Jefferson Davis lived in his era just like Anthony Johnson who just happened to be a black man and the very first slave owner in Virginnia.
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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien
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