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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1100 on: September 13, 2025, 11:26:23 pm »
All right people. I have watched the video Myst posted on the first page of this thread and compared it to the one I posted a bit upthread. Near as I can tell they are the same video. No AI. Here is what I concluded. He is wearing some type of light, concealable body armor. Tank top, custom and may give the impression of musculature (pects with nips, abs). But no backplates.

It appears the bullet hits somewhere in the letter D. That part of the shirt jerks up with the D at the peak. When the bullet hits the plate, it mushrooms (without fragmenting) , ricochets up at around a 75-80 degree angle (you can see the top/front/left side of the shirt bellow out)  and enters the throat with enough force to destroy the carotid artery. It continues up and stops at the bottom of the skull, or penetrates the bottom of the skull  but doesn't penetrate the top of the skull (in going out). That is why there is no exit wound(s). I'll note that the black lettering hides the entry hole and the slight bellowing allows passage of the bullet upwards without further damaging the shirt.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1101 on: September 14, 2025, 12:25:56 am »
Wow!
Yeah, that one got my screen all out of focus for a moment...
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1102 on: September 14, 2025, 12:31:55 am »
A 30-06 is not going to ricochet off a vest.  A 30-06 is going to go clean through it.  If he got hit in the chest, there would be a sizeable hole in his shirt, and fabric would have ejected from it as the bullet pass through the vest into his chest.

Level III+ hard armor will stop a .30-06, and Level 4 will even stop .30-06 M2 AP.

https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com/blog/body-armor-protection-levels-simplified/?srsltid=AfmBOopfCr9MVRTrv5IdZAiDx8jQIRBDzaUXeGBkFVPRexSu3p8QlkSy

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1103 on: September 14, 2025, 01:04:08 am »
Just going off what was reported. It's hard to keep up with the back and forth.

It is all good, we all are just searching for the truth... and hoping it aligns with our thoughts on the matter. In my case sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But we are allowed to fish for ideas here.
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« Reply #1104 on: September 14, 2025, 01:35:39 am »
Tyler didn’t just “snap.” He was manufactured. Classrooms became factories, professors became engineers. Out comes another radical programmed to hate. Then the dark web, in this case Antifa on Discord finishes the work started and a once good kid becomes a monster.   How many more of these in waiting?   
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« Reply #1105 on: September 14, 2025, 05:05:57 am »
MSNBC: “Everyone needs to pick up a weapon.” 77,000,000 Americans: Okay
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1106 on: September 14, 2025, 06:51:59 am »
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« Reply #1107 on: September 14, 2025, 07:09:28 am »
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1108 on: September 14, 2025, 07:31:35 am »
All right people. I have watched the video Myst posted on the first page of this thread and compared it to the one I posted a bit upthread. Near as I can tell they are the same video. No AI. Here is what I concluded. He is wearing some type of light, concealable body armor. Tank top, custom and may give the impression of musculature (pects with nips, abs). But no backplates.

It appears the bullet hits somewhere in the letter D. That part of the shirt jerks up with the D at the peak. When the bullet hits the plate, it mushrooms (without fragmenting) , ricochets up at around a 75-80 degree angle (you can see the top/front/left side of the shirt bellow out)  and enters the throat with enough force to destroy the carotid artery. It continues up and stops at the bottom of the skull, or penetrates the bottom of the skull  but doesn't penetrate the top of the skull (in going out). That is why there is no exit wound(s). I'll note that the black lettering hides the entry hole and the slight bellowing allows passage of the bullet upwards without further damaging the shirt.
First off, what is this board's obsession with analyzing every last detail of a snuff film? Second, why was there even a recording of the shooting with that level of detail?

Head, neck, chest, it doesn't matter: the target is dead. The fact y'all are picking nits over where he was supposedly aiming or where he supposedly hit is irrelevant.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1109 on: September 14, 2025, 10:33:29 am »

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1110 on: September 14, 2025, 10:39:52 am »
First off, what is this board's obsession with analyzing every last detail of a snuff film? Second, why was there even a recording of the shooting with that level of detail?

Head, neck, chest, it doesn't matter: the target is dead. The fact y'all are picking nits over where he was supposedly aiming or where he supposedly hit is irrelevant.

For someone who earlier in thread slanderously described Charlie in a very inaccurate manner, you sure seem to keep posting.  The point?  Pile on?
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1112 on: September 14, 2025, 10:44:02 am »
Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter 'not cooperating' with authorities, Utah governor says

The alleged assassin of conservative activist Charlie Kirk is not cooperating with authorities while in custody, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said Sunday.

Cox made the statement during a Sunday morning appearance on ABC News, saying 22-year-old Tyler Robinson has not confessed to the murder.

“He has not confessed to, to authorities. He is, he is, he is not cooperating, but, but, but all the people around him are cooperating. And I think that's, that's, that's very important," Cox told ABC News.

He went on to say that Robinson's family members and his romantic partner, a man who is transitioning from male to female, are cooperating with authorities.

Those who know Robinson say he was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," Cox said.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1113 on: September 14, 2025, 11:01:18 am »
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« Reply #1114 on: September 14, 2025, 11:02:59 am »
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« Reply #1116 on: September 14, 2025, 11:10:04 am »
For someone who earlier in thread slanderously described Charlie in a very inaccurate manner .  .  .

Slander which he continues to stand on even after admitting he has zero evidence to back it up.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1118 on: September 14, 2025, 11:23:58 am »
https://x.com/RobertMSterling/status/1966974489553461366

Awesome tweet.  The obstacle to this is addressed in paragraph 6:

Your movement will lose any semblance of relevance if you don’t develop some small measure of self-awareness, and—absent someone force-feeding you bitter medicine—you guys collectively lack the humility to do this on your own.

And therein lies the crux of the biscuit - the inane refusal to accept that their emotions deceived them.  Don't expect any change from the left.  They may wisely choose to refrain from emoting out loud in the future.  But nothing short of divine intervention is going to cause them to detach emotion from their thought processes.  They have been turned over to reprobate minds.  They simply lack the ability to choose 'truth' over whatever emotion-created belief they may have.  There is even an example of this here upthread.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1119 on: September 14, 2025, 11:26:18 am »
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🚨 JUST IN: A prayer for vigil for Charlie Kirk is scheduled TONIGHT at the Kennedy Center here in DC with an A-list lineup of speakers

This is possible only because Trump took control of the Kennedy Center.  If the leftist were still in control, there would never be any celebration of Charlie Kirk's life there.
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« Reply #1120 on: September 14, 2025, 11:26:40 am »
That… is a keeper.

We seem to keep forgetting that there was a  poll not long ago that found that 55% of democrats would not have a problem with DJT being off-ed. 

This is our nation now.   They are no longer political opponents.   They are our enemies,.
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« Reply #1122 on: September 14, 2025, 11:33:01 am »
Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter 'not cooperating' with authorities, Utah governor says

The alleged assassin of conservative activist Charlie Kirk is not cooperating with authorities while in custody, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said Sunday.

Cox made the statement during a Sunday morning appearance on ABC News, saying 22-year-old Tyler Robinson has not confessed to the murder.

“He has not confessed to, to authorities. He is, he is, he is not cooperating, but, but, but all the people around him are cooperating. And I think that's, that's, that's very important," Cox told ABC News.

He went on to say that Robinson's family members and his romantic partner, a man who is transitioning from male to female, are cooperating with authorities.

Those who know Robinson say he was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," Cox said.

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Even a cold blooded killer has the right to remain silent. Robinson's refusal to cooperate with his prosecutors is no doubt based on sound legal advice.
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« Reply #1123 on: September 14, 2025, 12:15:05 pm »
First off, what is this board's obsession with analyzing every last detail of a snuff film? Second, why was there even a recording of the shooting with that level of detail?

Head, neck, chest, it doesn't matter: the target is dead. The fact y'all are picking nits over where he was supposedly aiming or where he supposedly hit is irrelevant.

Because, and please get your head out of your ass here, if the characteristics of the bullet were that of a .270 and not a .30-06, then that implies a second shooter, as does if the guy had zero firearms experience and made that shot with a Mauser action and a scope not set in the right place.

We've seen incident after incident like this where the facts do not line up with what has been asserted, and implies a larger and higher circle of coordination and conspiracy. There are all sorts of forces out there orchestrating things from the shadows, and none of us have the desire to let it get shoved under the rug and forgotten.
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« Reply #1124 on: September 14, 2025, 12:33:57 pm »
Sheriff: Charlie Kirk Assassination Suspect Under ‘Special Watch’ in Jail

The man accused of assassinating Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk is under special watch while sitting in jail, according to law enforcement.

https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2025/09/14/sheriff-charlie-kirk-assassination-suspect-under-special-watch-in-jail/
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« Reply #1125 on: September 14, 2025, 12:35:29 pm »
Bookstore Removes Stephen King Books from Its Website After His Charlie Kirk Smear

“It” author Stephen King is still feeling the fierce repercussions of his lie that assassinated Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk “advocated for stoning gays to death.” The major United Kingdom-based online bookstore Belfast Books has vowed to remove King’s books following his comments, saying his apology doesn’t begin to go far enough.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/09/14/bookstore-removes-stephen-king-books-from-its-website-after-his-charlie-kirk-smear/
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1126 on: September 14, 2025, 12:44:19 pm »

The man accused of assassinating Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk is under special watch while sitting in jail, according to law enforcement.
Well ... we all know how that worked out. 'Special Watch' may be worse than just being left alone.

BTW: The fact that Robinson made it to jail makes me sure he was not working as a government CIA/FBI operative. Those guys, like Crooks, are dead and disappeared from the Earth before they ever make it to any court. No parents, no friends, no internet trail, no educational history, no cellphone history, nothing, they never existed.

Robinson did what he did without U.S. Government support.
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« Reply #1127 on: September 14, 2025, 12:47:35 pm »
Sheriff: Charlie Kirk Assassination Suspect Under ‘Special Watch’ in Jail
Appropriate for crazy defendants. He clearly is mentally disturbed, as evidenced not just by his having committed this heinous murder but his leftist ideology and homosexual relationship with a guy in a sloth suit. Don't give him a chance to off himself.
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« Reply #1128 on: September 14, 2025, 12:47:51 pm »
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« Reply #1129 on: September 14, 2025, 12:48:45 pm »
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« Reply #1130 on: September 14, 2025, 12:52:05 pm »
Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin had suspicious people going in an out of his home two weeks before the assassination, according to the New York Post.

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« Reply #1131 on: September 14, 2025, 12:53:30 pm »
Appropriate for crazy defendants. He clearly is mentally disturbed, as evidenced not just by his having committed this heinous murder but his leftist ideology and homosexual relationship with a guy in a sloth suit. Don't give him a chance to off himself.
He was laughing and joking about it online after the shooting.
Also, he was almost bragging about being the shooter. He was just slightly short of confessing to it.
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« Reply #1132 on: September 14, 2025, 01:00:51 pm »
Charlie Kirk's alleged shooter 'not cooperating' with authorities, Utah governor says

The alleged assassin of conservative activist Charlie Kirk is not cooperating with authorities while in custody, Utah Gov. Spencer Cox said Sunday.

Cox made the statement during a Sunday morning appearance on ABC News, saying 22-year-old Tyler Robinson has not confessed to the murder.

“He has not confessed to, to authorities. He is, he is, he is not cooperating, but, but, but all the people around him are cooperating. And I think that's, that's, that's very important," Cox told ABC News.

He went on to say that Robinson's family members and his romantic partner, a man who is transitioning from male to female, are cooperating with authorities.

Those who know Robinson say he was "deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology," Cox said.

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Why did the reporter feel it necessary to include every stutter in that quote?
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« Reply #1134 on: September 14, 2025, 01:10:47 pm »
Bookstore Removes Stephen King Books from Its Website After His Charlie Kirk Smear

“It” author Stephen King is still feeling the fierce repercussions of his lie that assassinated Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk “advocated for stoning gays to death.” The major United Kingdom-based online bookstore Belfast Books has vowed to remove King’s books following his comments, saying his apology doesn’t begin to go far enough.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2025/09/14/bookstore-removes-stephen-king-books-from-its-website-after-his-charlie-kirk-smear/


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« Reply #1135 on: September 14, 2025, 01:18:38 pm »
Charlie Kirk's mortal sin was peeling off the veneer of the lefts talking points in person, gracefully, in front of thousands of people. Brutally exposing what those slogans were based on - lies/twisted truth - and how indefensible they clearly were when forced to defend each claim step by step. The left's college elite echo chamber was being ruptured from an outsider armed with nothing other than truth and a brilliant mind.

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« Reply #1136 on: September 14, 2025, 01:18:45 pm »
Why did the reporter feel it necessary to include every stutter in that quote?

Sound familiar?

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« Reply #1137 on: September 14, 2025, 01:20:02 pm »

https://twitter.com/RobertMSterling/status/1966974489553461366

The most concise and clear statement of facts I've read in a LONG time. Read the comments!
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« Reply #1138 on: September 14, 2025, 01:22:51 pm »
Charlie Kirk's mortal sin was peeling off the veneer of the lefts talking points in person, gracefully, in front of thousands of people. Brutally exposing what those slogans were based on - lies/twisted truth - and how indefensible they clearly were when forced to defend each claim step by step. The left's college elite echo chamber was being ruptured from an outsider armed with nothing other than truth and a brilliant mind.


Yup. Charlie Kirk was testifying in the sense that word was used when Christianity was young and professing Christian’s were regularly martyred for their beliefs. 

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« Reply #1139 on: September 14, 2025, 01:24:19 pm »
Charlie Kirk's mortal sin was peeling off the veneer of the lefts talking points in person, gracefully, in front of thousands of people. Brutally exposing what those slogans were based on - lies/twisted truth - and how indefensible they clearly were when forced to defend each claim step by step. The left's college elite echo chamber was being ruptured from an outsider armed with nothing other than truth and a brilliant mind.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1140 on: September 14, 2025, 01:25:06 pm »
Sound familiar?
No.

The reporter was deliberately making the governor sound like a fool.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1141 on: September 14, 2025, 01:27:37 pm »
No.

The reporter was deliberately making the governor sound like a fool.


By quoting him verbatim?  No.  Now youre picking nits, just as alleged.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1142 on: September 14, 2025, 01:29:30 pm »
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox confirmed the existence of a note written by Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin prior to the killing last week, but he has declined to offer details.

Cox offered a glimpse into the investigation during a series of Sunday morning appearances on CNN, NBC News and ABC News, elaborating on the Tyler Robinson's activities on the social media site Discord. The governor said Robinson was actively joking with acquaintances on the site who noticed Kirk's shooter resembled him.

"Those conversations definitely were happening. And they did not believe it was actually him – it was all joking until he admitted that it actually was him,” Cox said in a separate interview with ABC.

Cox said Robinson appeared to become more politically radical after dropping out of Utah State University.

“It seemed to happen kind of after that – after he moved back to the southern part of Utah. Clearly, there was a lot of gaming going on, friends that have confirmed that there was kind of that deep, dark internet, Reddit culture and these other dark places of the internet where this person was going deep. You saw that on the casings. … the memeification that is happening in our society today,” he told NBC News.

Discord vice president Jud Hoffman confirmed on Friday that there had been “communications between the suspect’s roommate and a friend after the shooting where the roommate was recounting the contents of a note the suspect had left elsewhere.”

Cox declined to offer details about the note but appeared to confirm its existence when asked about it on CNN.

“Those are things that are still being processed for accuracy and verification and will be included in charging documents,” Cox said.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1143 on: September 14, 2025, 01:30:25 pm »

Charlie Kirk's 'killer' made sick jokes just hours after 'shooting activist dead' as his twisted messages emerge

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By JAMES GORDON
14 September 2025



The man who allegedly killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk joked that his 'doppelganger' pulled the trigger while discussing the tragedy in a private Discord chat just hours after the shooting.

Tyler Robinson, 22, mocked the manhunt for the gunman and taunted the FBI's investigation while joking about obtaining reward money before eventually surrendering to police, according to messages obtained by The New York Times.

Robinson has since been arrested and identified as the prime suspect in Kirk's killing.

He showed no sign of remorse in screenshots of the Discord chat shared by a former high school classmate.

In fact, Robinson appeared to revel in the attention, exchanging meme-laced jabs with acquaintances while authorities scrambled to find the person responsible.

'Tyler killed Charlie!!!!' one user wrote in a group chat on Thursday afternoon, jokingly tagging Robinson.

Robinson fired back almost instantly: 'My doppelganger's trying to get me in trouble,' he wrote.

The gallows humor was delivered just hours after the FBI had released surveillance stills showing a young man in sunglasses and a cap, walking through a stairwell at Utah Valley University where Kirk had been speaking.

At that point, the suspect was still publicly unidentified, but privately, Robinson was already toying with the truth.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1144 on: September 14, 2025, 01:32:01 pm »
If Discord doesn’t fully and voluntarily cooperate with providing all information on everyone even marginally associated with this assassination, the firm should be shut down and liquidated.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1145 on: September 14, 2025, 01:33:19 pm »
There goes the insanity defense. He knew exactly what he was doing.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1146 on: September 14, 2025, 01:43:14 pm »
If Discord doesn’t fully and voluntarily cooperate with providing all information on everyone even marginally associated with this assassination, the firm should be shut down and liquidated.
Do not understand why there is not yet an FBI department of Discord, monitoring the site 24/7.
It seems to be the hotbed of Leftist violence.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1147 on: September 14, 2025, 01:44:49 pm »
Do not understand why there is not yet an FBI department of Discord, monitoring the site 24/7.
It seems to be the hotbed of Leftist violence.

I'd never heard of Discord before this thread.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #1148 on: September 14, 2025, 01:49:29 pm »
I'd never heard of Discord before this thread.

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« Reply #1149 on: September 14, 2025, 02:02:46 pm »
I'd never heard of Discord before this thread.

Same here!

But as @240B  already pointed out, you'd think the FBI would be fully aware of their activities/conversations.

Perhaps this is what the funny meme "He Was On Our Radar" means
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