Charlie Kirk shot

[Lando Lincoln]

Mambo Italiano
@mamboitaliano__

Incredible, extraordinary, and moving Usha Vance — holding the hand of Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erika, devastated by grief

Usha Vance is one of the finest Second Ladies in American 🇺🇸 history

Always a step behind in discretion
Always a step ahead with heart and strength




8:37 AM · Sep 12, 2025

I am so very impressed by her. Truly.

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/trevor_hk/status/1966702652059951573

[Lando Lincoln]

I have no idea how the shooter’s rifle was set up or where the shooter was aiming. His only aim was for a kill shot. He succeeded. Now, he can burn in Hell.

RIP Charlie

[Right_in_Virginia]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1966858821336272986

[Right_in_Virginia]

I am so very impressed by her. Truly.

I am, too.  With little press and fanfare, fhe Vances are very active ... They travel frequently to meet, greet, speak, both nationally and internationally --- and often with 3 kids.  Usha's always gracious, poised, attentive --- all with a very warm smile. 

[mountaineer]

This is the first I've heard this. Noted Christian apologist Frank Turek was a close friend of Charlie's and was just a few feet behind him when he was shot. Frank is a former Navy aviator. They had appeared in public together many times, including discussing politics and morality on Frank's "Cross Examined" podcast and on Charlie's podcast.

Leftists really hate Frank, a former Navy aviator, and so now they've actually accused him of signaling the shooter when to squeeze the trigger. This is how low they'll go.

https://twitter.com/DrFrankTurek/status/1966474319225073983

[Idiot]

There was too much discussion on whether the shooter missed or hit where he was aiming to start at the beginning...so I'll add my comment here.

I think the kid was aiming for the victims head.

And because he was an amateur shooter what he didn't account for was the bullet drop at that distance.

At 200 yards it's somewhere around 3" for a .30-06 if memory serves.

I don't think the shooter took that into consideration.

Are you friggen serious?  The guy was just murdered and all y'all can do is critique the shot.  Seriously???

[mountaineer]

Brooke Singman
@BrookeSingman
EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.
The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.
Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.
11:38 AM · Sep 13, 2025

Brooke Singman
@BrookeSingman
The last question Charlie Kirk answered before he was murdered was:
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?”
Charlie replied: “Too many.”
He was then asked: “do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
Charlie replied: “Counting or not counting gang violence?”
Charlie was then assassinated.
11:50 AM · Sep 13, 2025

Brooke is a FOX News reporter, so I have to assume she's knows not to report something this inflammatory without confirming it. This may explain the various nonbinary/trans people in the Utah Valley area who posted before the shooting that something big was going to happen at the Kirk event. I believe the person asking Charlie about transgendered mass shooters was in league with Robinson.

[Free Vulcan]

Are you friggen serious?  The guy was just murdered and all y'all can do is critique the shot.  Seriously???

It's not a critique, it's an examination. The kid was probably practiced, but not a pro. A too perfect of a shot beyond his ability makes it suspicious, a shot like this tend to confirm it was actually him and he's not just a patsy, which is more what Trump's shooter looks like.

[mountaineer]

As I said above, both the Butler shooter and the Utah shooter were just a few inches off, which is not surprising, given their relative lack of expertise with the weapons. Competence is not expertise. I think they both hoped to hit their targets right in the brain.

[Polly Ticks]

Brooke Singman
@BrookeSingman
EXCLUSIVE: Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson lived with his transgender partner, sources tell me.
The individual, who is a male transitioning to a female, is fully cooperating with the FBI.
Sources tell me the FBI had texts and other communications between Robinson and the individual that helped FBI authorities solidify that Robinson was indeed the shooter.
11:38 AM · Sep 13, 2025

I thought he lived at home with his parents?
Is this the 'roommate' that showed the investigators the Discord messages about the rifle?

[Free Vulcan]

This is the first I've heard this. Noted Christian apologist Frank Turek was a close friend of Charlie's and was just a few feet behind him when he was shot. Frank is a former Navy aviator. They had appeared in public together many times, including discussing politics and morality on Frank's "Cross Examined" podcast and on Charlie's podcast.

Leftists really hate Frank, a former Navy aviator, and so now they've actually accused him of signaling the shooter when to squeeze the trigger. This is how low they'll go.

I am curious though what he and the guy in the black shirt were doing, because it indeed looks like hand signals. It's a little bizarre within the context.

[mountaineer]

I am curious though what he and the guy in the black shirt were doing, because it indeed looks like hand signals. It's a little bizarre within the context.

Frank was in a white shirt. I don't know whether anyone has determined anything about anyone in black.

I took the allegation of complicity a little personally, because I've met Frank, I've attended his speaking engagements (most recently, less than a year ago), I've read his books and articles. I have a great deal of respect for him. This is an outrageous libel.

[Free Vulcan]

Frank was in a white shirt. I don't know whether anyone has determined anything about anyone in black.

There was a guy in black to the left and behind Charlie and opposite Frank that almost looked like a coach in a baseball game with the movements he was making. They wouldn't be considered by most as to be natural. It's a little strange to say the least.

[Ghost Bear]

I thought he lived at home with his parents?
Is this the 'roommate' that showed the investigators the Discord messages about the rifle?

Since the person reporting the story says the "partner" is fully cooperating with the FBI, I'm guessing this is the same person as the "roommate" who shared the Discord messages.

When I attended college, and for a few years after college, I lived in a college dorm with a roommate, and later in an apartment off-campus, during the week while I attended classes. On the weekends I went home to my parents' house. My official residence was my parents' house, the house I grew up in, because it would be a hassle to change my official residence to what I knew was going to be a temporary location. I didn't consider my dorm room or even my apartment as my "home". I think that's common for a lot of young people transitioning from teenager to adulthood.

[Sighlass]

Are you friggen serious?  The guy was just murdered and all y'all can do is critique the shot.  Seriously???

It is how most guys are wired. We all deal with grief differently and analyzing is part of our makeup. Deal with it.

[bigheadfred]

Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog
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19m
I’ve independently confirmed that Charlie Kirk’s assassin did in fact have a transgender boyfriend. This is LGBT extremism. A lot more will be revealed soon. The “far right” narrative is absolute bullshit. Not even close to true. Don’t fall for it.

[Free Vulcan]

Frank was in a white shirt. I don't know whether anyone has determined anything about anyone in black.

I took the allegation of complicity a little personally, because I've met Frank, I've attended his speaking engagements (most recently, less than a year ago), I've read his books and articles. I have a great deal of respect for him. This is an outrageous libel.

No allegations, just desire for explanation. Maybe just nervous ticks, but everything should be scrutinized. Most people when someone is speaking stands and listens, they don't fidget like that. It looks strange and creates suspicion that they should explain.

[Free Vulcan]

Sign language for the video feed? Didn't watch, so that may be way off base.

Very possible. As I said in my last post, explain. Don't point to your credibility, integrity, friendship or anything else, because it looks like a gloss over.

[DB]

No allegations, just desire for explanation. Maybe just nervous ticks, but everything should be scrutinized. Most people when someone is speaking stands and listens, they don't fidget like that. It looks strange and creates suspicion that they should explain.

Sometimes you just get an itch... Satisfy one spot and another one rapidly becomes apparent... Likely as simple as that.

[Idiot]

It is how most guys are wired. We all deal with grief differently and analyzing is part of our makeup. Deal with it.

Yeah...you are right.  The first thing I thought of when I saw his bloody body was I wonder if it was a .223 or .556 and did they account for wind, distance, heat.     The first thing I did was get on my knees and ask God to spare his life.

[DB]

Very possible. As I said in my last post, explain. Don't point to your credibility, integrity, friendship or anything else, because it looks like a gloss over.

I watched the video after posting that. It didn't look like American sign language. More likely just an itch... There could have been bugs flying around too... Mosquitos drive me nuts...

[DB]

Yeah...you are right.  The first thing I thought of when I saw his bloody body was I wonder if it was a .223 or .556 and did they account for wind, distance, heat.     The first thing I did was get on my knees and ask God to spare his life.

This discusion was well past that point.

[Cyber Liberty]

This discusion was well past that point.

When I found out it was a 30-06 deer rifle, I was a little amazed it didn't blow his head off.  Yes, I know that's a bit morbid, but as it's been mentioned, it's wired into the male mind.  Inevitable on a thread pushing 1,000 posts I guess....

[Free Vulcan]

Sometimes you just get an itch... Satisfy one spot and another one rapidly becomes apparent... Likely as simple as that.

Well they must have had itches simultaneously, because the guy in the black shirt was doing some really funky unusual stuff that didn't look like itching.

[Free Vulcan]

When I found out it was a 30-06 deer rifle, I was a little amazed it didn't blow his head off.  Yes, I know that's a bit morbid, but as it's been mentioned, it's wired into the male mind.  Inevitable on a thread pushing 1,000 posts I guess....

No I thought the same thing - especially on a neck shot. Surprised it didn't knock him back and tip the chair over. I've got a .308 and at 200 yards it's got alot of energy, makes big holes in the dirt.

[Cyber Liberty]

No I thought the same thing - especially on a neck shot. Surprised it didn't knock him back and tip the chair over. I've got a .308 and at 200 yards it's got alot of energy, makes big holes in the dirt.

When I was a kid, there was a gravel pit in an area we used to go plinking, filled with water.  I tossed in an old magazine we found there and shot it with my .22.  It just made a "thud" sound.  Then my brother shot it with his .308 and it flew 10-15 feet into the air.  I developed a healthy respect for that energy that day, and a .308 is puny compared to the energy of a 30-06!

[DB]

When I found out it was a 30-06 deer rifle, I was a little amazed it didn't blow his head off.  Yes, I know that's a bit morbid, but as it's been mentioned, it's wired into the male mind.  Inevitable on a thread pushing 1,000 posts I guess....

I'm assuming it didn't pass through or others behind him would have been hit too. That too seems unusual for a 30-06.

[bigheadfred]

Benny Johnson

@bennyjohnson
·
2h
Crowds are now chanting “we are Charlie Kirk” in South Korea 🇰🇷

This movement is worldwide..

[bigheadfred]

The bullet hit his vest and fragmented. A fragment hit him in the throat and caused fatal damage.

[DB]

The bullet hit his vest and fragmented. A fragment hit him in the throat and caused fatal damage.

That would explain a lot.

[Timber Rattler]

That would explain a lot.

Yep.  It looked like an awful wound judging from the amount of blood that immediately poured out.

[Cyber Liberty]

The bullet hit his vest and fragmented. A fragment hit him in the throat and caused fatal damage.

That makes sense.  I wonder if that left enough of the bullet to match ballistics to the rifle they retrieved?

[Luis Gonzalez]

https://youtube.com/shorts/J1lU5y9a5C4?si=FYVVwRIBLbatlcIb

[DB]

That makes sense.  I wonder if that left enough of the bullet to match ballistics to the rifle they retrieved?

They can likely match the bullet's metallurgical makeup to the unused rounds with a high level of confidence.

[bigheadfred]

They can likely match the bullet's metallurgical makeup to the unused rounds with a high level of confidence.

Good point.

[Smokin Joe]

Whoever took the shot missed. Whether the kid was some kind of Crooks style pasty. And a real professional made the actual shot, there is not any "professional assassin" who would aim for the neck.

An untrained amature kid (Robinson) is more likely to go for a head shot, and it missed low. A standard 'center mass' shot is called for in this scenario, and it missed high and to the right. Either way it was a missed shot which happened to be good enough by chance. I have never heard of any marksman saying, 'Hey watch this. I'm going for a neck shot.' That just never happens.

No conclusions. No ideas. Just talking.

A downhill shot will hit high to the point of aim if the rifle was zeroed on a level range. Simple ballistics.
Likely the shooter aimed center of mass, and hit high.

[Smokin Joe]

Or went for center mass and missed high due to shooting downhill.

Yep. I have been saying that. Anyone who has hunted in hilly country knows downhill shots hit high to the point of aim even allowing for normal bullet drop.

[Smokin Joe]

No I thought the same thing - especially on a neck shot. Surprised it didn't knock him back and tip the chair over. I've got a .308 and at 200 yards it's got alot of energy, makes big holes in the dirt.

Mythbusters shot down the whole Hollywood thing about people being knocked back. The transfer of energy is largely lost to penetration of and deformation of tissue, and shattering of bone. There will be some reaction from impact, but nothing like what you see in the movies.

[Smokin Joe]

https://youtube.com/shorts/J1lU5y9a5C4?si=FYVVwRIBLbatlcIb

[DB]

Mythbusters shot down the whole Hollywood thing about people being knocked back. The transfer of energy is largely lost to penetration of and deformation of tissue, and shattering of bone. There will be some reaction from impact, but nothing like what you see in the movies.

Regarding Hollyweird, the forces would be highest at the shooters end. If the shooter doesn't go flying, neither will what it hits if their masses are similar.

[Smokin Joe]

Regarding Hollyweird, the forces would be highest at the shooters end. If the shooter doesn't go flying, neither will what it hits if their masses are similar.

Newton's laws of motion apply.

[bigheadfred]

Mythbusters shot down the whole Hollywood thing about people being knocked back. The transfer of energy is largely lost to penetration of and deformation of tissue, and shattering of bone. There will be some reaction from impact, but nothing like what you see in the movies.

Yep. Every big game animal I have shot has just dropped. The reaction I saw from Mr. Kirk was due to the brain signaling sudden catastrophic trauma and not the force from the strike.

[Lando Lincoln]

https://youtube.com/shorts/J1lU5y9a5C4?si=FYVVwRIBLbatlcIb

Wow!  I wasn’t expecting that. I just had a bit of lunch after clearing some storm debris and was about to “relax” a bit. Not now!

[DB]

That makes sense.  I wonder if that left enough of the bullet to match ballistics to the rifle they retrieved?

I'll add one more thing. The used bullet casing may well have been still in the chamber, being a bolt action rifle. Being able to pair up the casing with the bullet material should be pretty definitive. They should know with high certainty that it was the weapon used even if the bullet remains are totally fragmented.

[txradioguy]

Are you friggen serious?  The guy was just murdered and all y'all can do is critique the shot.  Seriously???

Quit living up to your screen name.

[Cyber Liberty]

I'll add one more thing. The used bullet casing may well have been still in the chamber, being a bolt action rifle. Being able to pair up the casing with the bullet material should be pretty definitive. They should know with high certainty that it was the weapon used even if the bullet remains are totally fragmented.

It's been reported the spent casing was still in the rifle that was found, along with three other unspent rounds in the magazine.

[240B]

Perusing some of the far-Left radical sites. As usual, they are celebrating all the wrong things.
Every issue in the world today which is 80 pro - 20 nay, or even 90 pro - 10 nay, the Left is ALWAYS on the wrong side.

They are ecstatic that the shooter is a White Male. They are bragging about it in an 'in your face' kind of way.
See! See! White male. Not Black and not an immigrant!

It is there that they derail. Then they claim he is not trans, which we do not know yet. And that he is a Rightwing Republican, which is a symptom of denial bordering on outright insanity.

To summarize: The radical Left claims that the shooter is a "Straight White Male" in quotes because they emphasize this to extremes, and he is a Rightwing Republican Trump Supporter.

The Leftists do not expect most normal people to believe this fantasy. But they are trying to pick-off the really stupid and the disturbed people who make up most of their base. Stupid and disturbed people will eat up this propaganda with a spoon, because it affirms everything that they want to be true and it confirms everything that they already believe.

[DB]

Perusing some of the far-Left radical sites. As usual, they are celebrating all the wrong things.
Every issue in the world today which is 80 pro - 20 nay, or even 90 pro - 10 nay, the Left is ALWAYS on the wrong side.

They are ecstatic that the shooter is a White Male. They are bragging about it in an 'in your face' kind of way.
See! See! White male. Not Black and not an immigrant!

It is there that they derail. Then they claim he is not trans, which we do not know yet. And that he is a Rightwing Republican, which is a symptom of denial bordering on outright insanity.

To summarize: The radical Left claims that the shooter is a "Straight White Male" in quotes because they emphasize this to extremes, and he is a Rightwing Republican Trump Supporter.

The Leftists do not expect most normal people to believe this fantasy. But they are trying to pick-off the really stupid and the disturbed people who make up most of their base. Stupid and disturbed people will eat up this propaganda with a spoon, because it affirms everything that they want to be true and it confirms everything that they already believe.

And their foot solders we repeat the lies over and over anywhere they can post. They are their useful idiots.

[Cyber Liberty]

And their foot solders we repeat the lies over and over anywhere they can post. They are their useful idiots.

I'm seeing a lot of that kind on X lately.