Elon Musk announces the formation of his third party — the America Party.

[roamer_1]

But I am sure you are doing the GOP proud. No doubt they want you to waste all your resolve on an inconsequential president, while they fleece you like a sheep.

[corbe]

   I saw the same $hit in perotiod supporters in '92 that I saw in Trump supporters in '16.  It's a populist movement -when the leader reaches term limits it usually fizzles just like 1888 William Jennings Bryan.

 

[Hoodat]

The idiocy of your statement ⬆️ flies straight over your head. 

So you weren't able to come up with any subsidies.  Got it.  You just made it up.  Or better yet, you simply parroted Democrat talking points.  Again.

Do you know what it makes you when you repeat Democrat lies?  But hey, you can still save face by citing those subsidies.  But I doubt you will.

[Hoodat]

There is no such thing as a winning national, one issue political party.

This isn't about politics.  It is about saving this country from financial collapse.  Keep playing Democrat-lite if winning elections is all you care about.  But we Conservatives love America too much to sign on to more $2 trillion deficits just because you refuse to spend only what you have.

[Cyber Liberty]

This isn't about politics.  It is about saving this country from financial collapse.  Keep playing Democrat-lite if winning elections is all you care about.  But we Conservatives love America too much to sign on to more $2 trillion deficits just because you refuse to spend only what you have.

I'm not going to repeat Ross Perot's strategy of splitting the Party, that will just elect Dems.

[mountaineer]

Find better candidates to primary big-spending Republicans, rather than starting a 3d party.

[mystery-ak]

 Musk tweaks Trump with Jeffrey Epstein post
by Sarah Fortinsky - 07/07/25 7:51 AM ET

Tech billionaire Elon Musk trolled President Trump early Monday with a post knocking the administration for making no arrests related to the Jeffrey Epstein case.

Musk, Trump’s former ally-turned-foe, posted an image to the social platform X of “The Official Jeffrey Epstein Pedophile Arrest Counter,” set to “0000.”

“What’s the time? Oh look, it’s no-one-has-been-arrested-o’clock again …,” Musk captioned the photo.

The post came after Axios reported on a new memo Sunday evening revealing the Justice Department and FBI have concluded there is no evidence that Epstein, a convicted sex offender, blackmailed powerful figures or kept a “client list,” as many conspiracy theories suggest.

The memo, according to Axios, also says there’s no evidence to suggest Epstein was murdered — supporting a medical examiner’s report that he died by suicide in a Manhattan jail in 2019.

According to the news outlet, the two-page memo also suggests no one else involved in the Epstein case will be charged.

The Hill has reached out to the Justice Department for comment.

Trump’s feud with Musk came to a head last month, when the Tesla chief executive said it was time to drop “the really big bomb.”

“[Trump] is in the Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not been made public,” Musk wrote on X at the time.

“Mark this post for the future. The truth will come out,” Musk followed up, minutes later.

Trump, before he was elected in November, said he would have “no problem” releasing files related to Epstein, something some lawmakers and many on social media have called for after the financier’s death.

The president last year denied any connection to Epstein, writing on social media, “I was never on Epstein’s Plane, or at his ‘stupid’ Island. Strong Laws ought to be developed against A.I. It will be a big and very dangerous problem in the future!”

Musk’s allegation last month came just minutes after Trump threatened to cancel government contracts with his 2024 campaign’s largest contributor’s companies.

Earlier on Sunday, Trump issued a lengthy post attacking Musk for calling for a third party, saying, “I am saddened to watch Elon Musk go completely ‘off the rails,’ essentially becoming a TRAIN WRECK over the past five weeks.”

“He even wants to start a Third Political Party, despite the fact that they have never succeeded in the United States – The System seems not designed for them,” he added. “The one thing Third Parties are good for is the creation of Complete and Total DISRUPTION & CHAOS, and we have enough of that with the Radical Left Democrats, who have lost their confidence and their minds!”

The Hill has contacted the White House for comment on Musk’s remarks.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5387380-elon-musk-trump-jeffrey-epstein/

[mystery-ak]

Mark Cuban and ‘the Mooch’ ready to hop onboard Musk’s new party. ‘Well, that was fun…’

July 7, 2025 | Chris Donaldson

Billionaire Tesla/SpaceX CEO Elon Musk took his temper tantrum over President Donald J. Trump’s “Big, Beautiful Bill” to an entirely new level over the Fourth of July holiday weekend, announcing the formation of a new political party.

The former DOGE head has come completely unglued over the president’s signature legislation since his return to the private sector and his answer to getting his way with influencing the government has given birth to the America Party, the latest attempt to introduce another option to the political system other than the current Republican-Democrat duopoly.

After nearly two-thirds of those responding to a July 4 X poll agreed with Musk that it was time for another party, he officially announced its formation.

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https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/07/07/mark-cuban-and-the-mooch-ready-to-hop-onboard-musks-new-party-well-that-was-fun-1565855/

[Bigun]

Find better candidates to primary big-spending Republicans, rather than starting a 3d party.

 

[Hoodat]

I'm not going to repeat Ross Perot's strategy of splitting the Party, that will just elect Dems.

Again, what's the difference?  A $2 trillion deficit is $2 trillion either way.

[Hoodat]

Find better candidates to primary big-spending Republicans, rather than starting a 3d party.

Candidates like Bob Good and Thomas Massie?

[Cyber Liberty]

  A $2 trillion deficit is $2 trillion either way.

I have never agreed with George Wallace's statement that "There isn't a dime's worth of difference" between the two Parties.  While it's important, there are more issues than spending to be considered.

Giving ICBM missile tech to China in exchange for campaign cash is but one example.

I do agree we've had shitty candidates in the GOP...but splitting the Party only elects Dems.  Pick a better solution.

[Bigun]

I have never agreed with George Wallace's statement that "There isn't a dime's worth of difference" between the two Parties.  While it's important, there are more issues than spending to be considered.

Giving ICBM missile tech to China in exchange for campaign cash is but one example.

I do agree we've had shitty candidates in the GOP...but splitting the Party only elects Dems.  Pick a better solution.

 

[DefiantMassRINO]

I voted for Perot in '92 and Pat Buchanan in '96.  All I got for my trouble was two terms for Slick Willy.  I'll hang around the GOP and try to make it a better party with better candidates.

[GtHawk]

"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

From The America We Deserve - Donald Trump

I thought machine guns were already banned, and why the hell should I have to wait to exercise a constitutional right? Here in Californication I already have to wait ten days, correction 240 hours to the minute from the last T crossed and last I dotted. All this is quite bizarre considering that the criminal that wants to rob or kill me has zero waiting period or ban on automatic weapons.

And yes I remember Trump’s position and like the sands in the hour glass so shift the opinions and promises of the ‘not a poltician’.

[libertybele]

I voted for Perot in '92 and Pat Buchanan in '96.  All I got for my trouble was two terms for Slick Willy.  I'll hang around the GOP and try to make it a better party with better candidates.

Who is going to run under Musk's 3rd party?  Because of his 'socialist' comments in the past, whom he picks may actually deter people from voting for the shiny new party.

Secondly, most people refuse to vote 3rd party because the odds of winning are slim to none.

As for the GOP -- hopefully we can unseat some RINO's making the party a little stronger during the mid terms. 

I believe with strong candidates like DeSantis (who is fiscally conservative) or Vance, Musk may not have a chance; but the fact still remains he has enough $$ to buy an election.

[libertybele]

Made me laugh. Yeah right? Let's all join the new Reform Party!
Elon is a bipolar genius. He is as unstable as he is brilliant.

As we have already seen, a month from now he may say ...
Nope, changed my mind. I'm back with Trump now.

Elon Musk is Great! (but he is also bonkers)

Agreed.  Musk has a few 'issues'.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Made me laugh. Yeah right? Let's all join the new Reform Party!
Elon is a bipolar genius. He is as unstable as he is brilliant.

As we have already seen, a month from now he may say ...
Nope, changed my mind. I'm back with Trump now.

Elon Musk is Great! (but he is also bonkers)

I have to agree with you, somewhat. Also Trump is like this as well, on several issues.

[GtHawk]

   I saw the same $hit in perotiod supporters in '92 that I saw in Trump supporters in '16.  It's a populist movement -when the leader reaches term limits it usually fizzles just like 1888 William Jennings Bryan.

 

I’ll see your squirrel and raise you two

[Hoodat]

I have never agreed with George Wallace's statement that "There isn't a dime's worth of difference" between the two Parties.  While it's important, there are more issues than spending to be considered.

Giving ICBM missile tech to China in exchange for campaign cash is but one example.

I do agree we've had shitty candidates in the GOP...but splitting the Party only elects Dems.  Pick a better solution.

Spending happens to be my key issue above all others. Fix that, and 90% of the remaining issues go away.

As  for illegal campaign cash (key word:  illegal), the Republican Party has shown again and again and again and again that they have no interest in prosecuting these transgressions.  Sure, they trumpet them when they are desperate for Conservative votes.  But they don't actually do anything about it.

Again, it's the spending, stupid.  Stop the spending first, then watch almost every other problem disappear.

[Hoodat]

Elon Musk is Great! (but he is also bonkers)

Yeah, they said the same thing about Goldwater back in '64.  Reagan in '76.  Ron Paul in 2008.   Rick Santorum in 2012.  Ted Cruz in 2016.  Ron DeSantis in 2024.  Exact same rhetoric.  Different year.  It's like watching 1984 in politics.

"We're at war with the Democrat Party.  We've always been at war with the Democrat Party."  Well, I call BS on all of that.  They aren't at war.  They are collaborators.  How else do we end up with a Bob Dole or a John McCain as our nominee?

[libertybele]

Spending happens to be my key issue above all others. Fix that, and 90% of the remaining issues go away.

As  for illegal campaign cash (key word:  illegal), the Republican Party has shown again and again and again and again that they have no interest in prosecuting these transgressions.  Sure, they trumpet them when they are desperate for Conservative votes.  But they don't actually do anything about it.

Again, it's the spending, stupid.  Stop the spending first, then watch almost every other problem disappear.

Spending is indeed an issue, but consider also the 2A, abortion, illegal immigration which are equally important and I don't think Musk just focusing on the debt/spending is going to be enough to get Elon's presidential candidate over the threshold. 

A lot can happen in a few years and Musk has proven to be a little sketchy and unpredictable.

[libertybele]

Yeah, they said the same thing about Goldwater back in '64.  Reagan in '76.  Ron Paul in 2008.   Rick Santorum in 2012.  Ted Cruz in 2016.  Ron DeSantis in 2024.  Exact same rhetoric.  Different year.  It's like watching 1984 in politics.

"We're at war with the Democrat Party.  We've always been at war with the Democrat Party."  Well, I call BS on all of that.  They aren't at war.  They are collaborators.  How else do we end up with a Bob Dole or a John McCain as our nominee?

DEM collaborators.  True enough.  Never under estimate their ability to swing things their way. Agreed, McCain was the absolute worst candidate and that's who we wound up with.  I couldn't stomach to vote for him, but that brought us Obama....

[Bigun]

Spending is indeed an issue, but consider also the 2A, abortion, illegal immigration which are equally important and I don't think Musk just focusing on the debt/spending is going to be enough to get Elon's presidential candidate over the threshold. 

A lot can happen in a few years and Musk has proven to be a little sketchy and unpredictable.

I know that Teddy Roosevelts Bull Moose party gave us Woodrow Wilson. THAT should be enough said about third parties.

[Cyber Liberty]

Spending happens to be my key issue above all others. Fix that, and 90% of the remaining issues go away.

As  for illegal campaign cash (key word:  illegal), the Republican Party has shown again and again and again and again that they have no interest in prosecuting these transgressions.  Sure, they trumpet them when they are desperate for Conservative votes.  But they don't actually do anything about it.

Again, it's the spending, stupid.  Stop the spending first, then watch almost every other problem disappear.

The politician who stopped the "Chinagate" investigation was Democrat John Glenn, who was bribed by Clinton, who gave Glenn a ride in a Space Shuttle.

[Cyber Liberty]

How else do we end up with a Bob Dole or a John McCain as our nominee?

Stupid voters.

[Hoodat]

Stupid voters.

Stupid voters led by a stupid GOP.  It's not every election year that the GOP gets the candidate it wanted.  But that certainly rang true in 1976, 1988, 1992, 1996, 2008, and 2012.  The Party has a lot of power and influence when it comes to nominees.

[libertybele]

Elon Musk indicates his new political party will be pro-gun, pro-bitcoin: 'The Second Amendment is sacred'

Billionaire business tycoon turned political power player Elon Musk indicated in posts on X that the America Party will stake out pro-Second Amendment, pro-bitcoin positions.

"The Second Amendment is sacred," Musk declared in a post on X in response to a post that suggested firearm owners would like to know about the party's position on guns.

Musk also responded to a question about whether the party will "embrace Bitcoin."

"Fiat is hopeless, so yes," he wrote...............

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/elon-musk-indicates-his-new-political-party-pro-gun-pro-bitcoin-second-amendment-sacred

[mountaineer]

Elon Musk indicates his new political party will be pro-gun, pro-bitcoin: 'The Second Amendment is sacred'

I've heard he bans gun companies from advertising on X. True?

[Cyber Liberty]

"Fiat is hopeless, so yes," he wrote...............

I love how backers of Crypto refer to other currencies as "Fiat" money.  What do we call currencies whose relative value is set purely by speculation?  Fiat.

[Cyber Liberty]

I've heard he bans gun companies from advertising on X. True?

I'm pretty sure that is true.

[libertybele]

I've heard he bans gun companies from advertising on X. True?

I truly had no idea .... so ... I looked it up and you are correct.  So ... what Elon says and does maybe two different things? 

https://business.x.com/en/help/ads-policies/ads-content-policies/weapons-and-weapon-accessories

[libertybele]

I love how backers of Crypto refer to other currencies as "Fiat" money.  What do we call currencies whose relative value is set purely by speculation?  Fiat.

Exactly.

[Polly Ticks]

Yeah, they said the same thing about Goldwater back in '64.  Reagan in '76.  Ron Paul in 2008.   Rick Santorum in 2012.  Ted Cruz in 2016.  Ron DeSantis in 2024.  Exact same rhetoric.  Different year.  It's like watching 1984 in politics.

"We're at war with the Democrat Party.  We've always been at war with the Democrat Party."  Well, I call BS on all of that.  They aren't at war.  They are collaborators.  How else do we end up with a Bob Dole or a John McCain as our nominee?

Technically, I think they said Ron Paul was high.