Gun Groups Slam GOP ‘Betrayal’ on Suppressors, AR Pistols

[Elderberry]

Florida Daily 5/21/2025

The Gun Owners of America (GOA) and other leading Second Amendment groups are slamming House Republicans over what they’re calling a “betrayal” of gun owners in the newly unveiled budget reconciliation bill.

While GOP lawmakers have proposed eliminating the $200 tax on suppressors, GOA says this keeps them under ATF regulation, “missing the mark and failing to deliver on GOP promises. “

GOA said the legislation omits language to stop the regulation of 40 million lawfully owned AR-style pistols with stabilizing braces, which had been a top demand from gun groups and manufacturers. “This isn’t a compromise, it’s a betrayal. Lawmakers knew it, and they chose political convenience over principle,” said GOA Senior Vice President Erich Pratt.

The bill GOA members are supporting is the Hearing Protection Act. The bill is aimed at removing suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA) that GOA says Americans no longer have to beg the federal government for permission just to own a piece of safety equipment.

More: https://floridadaily.com/gun-groups-slam-gop-betrayal-on-suppressors-ar-pistols/

[Sighlass]

You will never hear the NRA on these issues, because they rather like them I guess... Good for the GOA for being a real Gun Rights group.

[Elderberry]

U.S. House Passes Reconciliation Bill, Removing Suppressors from the National Firearms Act

NRA-ILA 5/22/2024

Earlier today, the U.S. House of Representatives passed H.R.1 the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which included Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act, completely removing suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).

The addition of Section 2 of the Hearing Protection Act to H.R. 1 is a massive win for NRA members and gun owners everywhere.

John Commerford, Executive Director of the NRA Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA), released the following statement:

"This morning, the U.S. House of Representatives passed President Trump's One, Big, Beautiful Bill, which includes the complete removal of suppressors from the NFA. This represents a monumental victory for Second Amendment rights, eliminating burdensome regulations on the purchase of critical hearing protection devices. The NRA thanks the House members who supported this bill and urges its swift passage in the U.S. Senate."

More: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20250522/us-house-passes-reconciliation-bill-removing-suppressors-from-the-national-firearms-act

[Sighlass]

So where is the news the NRA is condemning congress for the government still controlling suppressors and you having to "register" with them (putting you on a list). The GOA has made their position clear, lets see the NRA do the same, they sure grabbed all the glory with a press conference claiming this was a victory quick enough.

I will not get a suppressor because I don't want the government sticking it's nose in my business. It is none of their business (understatement edit)

Edited due to being over emotional...

[Elderberry]

So where is the news the NRA is condemning congress for the government still controlling suppressors and you having to "register" with them (putting you on a list). The GOA has made their position clear, lets see the NRA do the same, they sure grabbed all the glory with a press conference claiming this was a victory quick enough.

I will not get a suppressor because I don't want the government sticking it's nose in my business. It is none of their business (understatement edit)

Edited due to being over emotional...

completely removing suppressors from the National Firearms Act (NFA).

[DCPatriot]

I understand that ONLY in movies are suppressors 'quiet'. 

That in actuality, the weapon still makes a somewhat loud report! 

[MeganC]

I understand that ONLY in movies are suppressors 'quiet'. 

That in actuality, the weapon still makes a somewhat loud report! 

I have personally seen a late 1930's German pistol whose report sounded like someone snapping their fingers. No attachment on the barrel either.

Sadly, it was lost in a tragic fishing accident. 

[Elderberry]

Where I used to hunt, the neighbor built silenced .22LR Henrys for City Animal Control hunters. My Remington 512 .22 LR with it's 25 inch bbl, shooting subsonic ammo, was quieter than his silenced rifles.

[roamer_1]

Where I used to hunt, the neighbor built silenced .22LR Henrys for City Animal Control hunters. My Remington 512 .22 LR with it's 25 inch bbl, shooting subsonic ammo, was quieter than his silenced rifles.

Yes... I often thought I would have a suppressed .22 for dispatch on the trapline. If you do it right, with subsonic ammo, there ain't much more than a 'tick' sound.

Don't ask me how I know.

[Bigun]

I understand that ONLY in movies are suppressors 'quiet'. 

That in actuality, the weapon still makes a somewhat loud report! 

Recently I've seen a couple of AR style suppressed rifles that are so quiet the only sound I could hear was the action opening and closing.

[MeganC]

Recently I've seen a couple of AR style suppressed rifles that are so quiet the only sound I could hear was the action opening and closing.

 

[Sighlass]

Even my single pump pellet gun is loud enough I can't shoot it without being heard a block away (at night). It can be heard during the day off our 3 acres. The Spring/Pump recoil makes it louder than I like so the neighbors can hear when we are popping a few squirrels. There will never be a completely silent gun. There is videos on Youtube with audio meters measuring suppressed guns and about as quiet as you will get is 112 db (most over 120db with a suppressor). *Using subsonic ammo

Also some sounds seem louder than others... a 90db crying baby sounds louder than a 110db whale call. We hear mid range more aptly. An Ice cream truck/leaf blower/ is about 105db. A Car horn is about 113db. A chainsaw is about 117db. Ambulance is about 118db... So suppressed guns are still loud for brief split second.

[Elderberry]

Even my single pump pellet gun is loud enough I can't shoot it without being heard a block away (at night). It can be heard during the day off our 3 acres. The Spring/Pump recoil makes it louder than I like so the neighbors can hear when we are popping a few squirrels. There will never be a completely silent gun. There is videos on Youtube with audio meters measuring suppressed guns and about as quiet as you will get is 112 db (most over 120db with a suppressor). *Using subsonic ammo

Also some sounds seem louder than others... a 90db crying baby sounds louder than a 110db whale call. We hear mid range more aptly. An Ice cream truck/leaf blower/ is about 105db. A Car horn is about 113db. A chainsaw is about 117db. Ambulance is about 118db... So suppressed guns are still loud for brief split second.

My .177 PCP air rifle is pretty quiet.

Back yard friendly? 5 popular PCP Pellet rifles sound levels tested.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUt47004jo0

[Sighlass]

Not sure why he set the audio db meter so far away. He claims 10 feet away (takes about 6 to 8 steps to walk to it though), so it seems further.

Air Gun Nation has a chart of some springers measured at 1 foot... not 10 feet away. Most rank between 100 - 107 db.

https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/completed-decibel-test-results-entire-air-rifle-collection.1286383/

[roamer_1]

Not sure why he set the audio db meter so far away. He claims 10 feet away (takes about 6 to 8 steps to walk to it though), so it seems further.

Air Gun Nation has a chart of some springers measured at 1 foot... not 10 feet away. Most rank between 100 - 107 db.

https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/completed-decibel-test-results-entire-air-rifle-collection.1286383/

Ten feet is kinda fair and pretty common - The intent is to measure the ambient effect, which is kinda the point. What it measures right at the barrel exit is incidental... Even the shooter's ear is at least 3ft away...

[IsailedawayfromFR]

John Cornyn heads the list of betrayers.