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[b‘Everybody Thinks They Understand’: Zelensky Tells Trump He Can’t Comprehend Ukraine War Until He Visitsb]

Oliver JJ Lane 14 Apr 2025

President Volodymyr Zelensky has issued a plea to President Donald Trump to personally visit Ukraine and see the impact of the war himself, claiming that others simply can’t understand what’s happening without witnessing it first-hand.

Ukraine’s President Zelensky has appealed to President Donald Trump to visit Ukraine, and argued that figures like Vice President JD Vance, Trump envoy Keith Kellogg, and United States Secretary of State Marco Rubio can’t understand Ukraine without seeing the battlefield.

Asked whether he would invite Trump to Ukraine, Zelensky said in a now-published interview recorded on Friday: “With pleasure. Please. I always wanted very much, that’s what I wanted to do, I did it… I always said that, we want you to come, to come and to see.”

While Zelensky did not outright call Trump or his senior colleagues ignorant, he nevertheless said those who had not been to Ukraine could not understand what is happening there and why.

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Yeah BS. More Zelensky grifting and side-stepping.

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Yeah BS. More Zelensky grifting and side-stepping.

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Zelensky's right, of course.
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Zelensky's right, of course.

Zelensky seems to be right about everything in your mind, which pretty much puts you at bootlicker status.
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Yeah BS. More Zelensky grifting and side-stepping.

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Yeah BS. More Zelensky grifting and side-stepping.

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I have a question...not trying to be a debater.

What does Z's request for officials to come and look at the devastation have to do with grifting, etc.?

Maybe a fair assessment could be made against the country that decided to invade a sovereign country and continues to bomb the he!! out of it's civilians. Yes, Ukraine is bombing as well. But it appears to be military and infrastructure targets.

Like Z or hate him...what the he!! does that have to do with what is and has happened?

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I have a question...not trying to be a debater.

What does Z's request for officials to come and look at the devastation have to do with grifting, etc.?

Maybe a fair assessment could be made against the country that decided to invade a sovereign country and continues to bomb the he!! out of it's civilians. Yes, Ukraine is bombing as well. But it appears to be military and infrastructure targets.

Like Z or hate him...what the he!! does that have to do with what is and has happened?

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I have a question...not trying to be a debater.

What does Z's request for officials to come and look at the devastation have to do with grifting, etc.?

Maybe a fair assessment could be made against the country that decided to invade a sovereign country and continues to bomb the he!! out of it's civilians. Yes, Ukraine is bombing as well. But it appears to be military and infrastructure targets.

Like Z or hate him...what the he!! does that have to do with what is and has happened?

@berdie , you're making too much sense here.
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What does Z's request for officials to come and look at the devastation have to do with grifting, etc.?

Zelensky is asking for camera time to emotionally blackmail Americans for more billions.  Choosing to keep a war going that you cannot win and is killing an entire generation of Ukrainian men should be a criminal act, not a cause célèbre.

For Ukraine, that swirling black hole of international corruption masquerading as a nation state, the root motivation for everything and anything is money laundering.

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Maybe Zelenskiy simply wants to put a stop to Russia destroying his country.  Ever consider that?
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Zelensky is asking for camera time to emotionally blackmail Americans for more billions.
 

That's utter nonsense.  The guy's trying to save his country from a vicious foreign invader.


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Choosing to keep a war going that you cannot win and is killing an entire generation of Ukrainian men should be a criminal act, not a cause célèbre.

How is that Zelensky's choice when it's Putin who ordered the invasion and continues to order the ongoing attacks against Ukraine and killing its people?  Putin could end this right now by ordering a halt to the attacks and getting his troops out of Ukraine.

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For Ukraine, that swirling black hole of international corruption masquerading as a nation state, the root motivation for everything and anything is money laundering.

Uh, Ukraine IS a sovereign Nation State, and it's "root motivation" is survival against the invading Russians.
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I'd give Trump credit if he went, of course, they'd have to absolutely guarantee his safety.

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I'd give Trump credit if he went, of course, they'd have to absolutely guarantee his safety.
He's sent plenty of representatives there. Not sure it's a sensible thing for our president to visit such a dangerous place as another country's war zone.
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Kindly tell me why someone is a traitor when they are tired of sending our tax dollars to other people so they can use some of that to kill each other?

It looks like they are putting America first to me.

BTW, calling someone a 'traitor' is a rank insult for many here. If you have an argument, use it, and don't resort to name calling (as in no ad hominem attacks).

The guy dresses up (for real) like a Star Trek Captain, and his heros are Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger (for real).  He's a flaming lefty, masquerading as a Republican.  He'd be funny as a joke, if he just left it at that.

So, take if for what its worth what  this silly POS'  POV brings from his mom's basement to this serious forum.

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"I'd give Trump credit if he went, of course, they'd have to absolutely guarantee his safety."

Nope.
That's no place for Mr. Trump to visit.
His safety is too important.
Send somebody else.