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What's that got to do with you continuing to support other countries, friend and foe, blocking and charging more for our products, at will and with impunity?  What's your soul-searing hate for Donald Trump got to do with you continuing to support gutting our industrial base, punishing the American worker and applauding China for controlling our supply chain??

30 posts in, he continues to diss Trump, but won't respond with a comment of why every tariff on Trump's chart has our's lower than the corresponding country.  And why it shouldn't be responded too. Not only morally corrupt, but having Sherman on his pic ID?   That's  enough to understand how silly this f'er is.

He's not worth responding IMO.
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You're perfectly fine with any other nation, friend or foe, blocking and cutting off US trade.  You're perfectly fine with any other nation, friend or foe, "taxing" the citizens of the US at will through global trade.  You have been your entire life, so spare us the hyperbolic bullsh!t.

Porgy Boy doesn't even realize that what he keeps posting makes Trump's argument. The world is limiting access to their markets while taking advantage of our good will.

Goodness knows why he wants to bootlick every other country while selling out ours. He sounds like a woke globalist.
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shhhh...  Let him waste his time.

I know...right??   :beer:

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30 posts in, he continues to diss Trump, but won't respond with a comment of why every tariff on Trump's chart has our's lower than the corresponding country.  And why it shouldn't be responded too. Not only morally corrupt, but having Sherman on his pic ID?   That's  enough to understand how silly this f'er is.

He's not worth responding IMO.
Maybe because the tariffs listed on Trump's chart aren't the actual tariffs. Not even close.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/04/03/trumps-tariff-formula-slammed-as-fake-and-incredibly-stupid-by-experts/

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/04/trumps-misleading-tariff-chart/
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Trump should have just stuck to China IMO... who we all know are the scumbags of the earth when it comes to trade.

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Maybe it's time for Congress to take away his toys? Reassert itself as the intended overseer of US trade, as was intended by the framers.

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Maybe it's time for Congress to take away his toys? Reassert itself as the intended overseer of US trade, as was intended by the framers.
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Maybe because the tariffs listed on Trump's chart aren't the actual tariffs. Not even close.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/04/03/trumps-tariff-formula-slammed-as-fake-and-incredibly-stupid-by-experts/

https://www.factcheck.org/2025/04/trumps-misleading-tariff-chart/

You realize that Stevie Forbes has his head so far up the NWO crowd's ass so far,  that he hasn't seen the sunshine for decades?

Secondly, given the complexity of how many different tariff rates, and products are involved world wide,  there had to be some level of extrapolation required , otherwise this process of fixing a rate for 100+ country would be almost impossible  task.

Thirdly, and most important, even as a approximate, that Trump's rates still are the same or lower than the rate being invoked by country of trade.  This seems to keep being overlooked.   Trump is having to fight off the MSM, loony dims, and Bush republicans.  I have used several times the "Kick Me" note that was used as a prank in high school.  We are 30-40 years of wearing that perpetual "kick me" sign.  When is it enough?

And last, am I 100% sure that Trump's tariff policy is going to work?   No....  But we are out of alternatives, if we want to avoid the fiscal cliff.
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30 posts in, he continues to diss Trump, but won't respond with a comment of why every tariff on Trump's chart has our's lower than the corresponding country.  And why it shouldn't be responded too. Not only morally corrupt, but having Sherman on his pic ID?   That's  enough to understand how silly this f'er is.

He's not worth responding IMO.

At least I'm not a Lost Casue moron like you are.
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At least I'm not a Lost Casue moron like you are.

Lost Casue's?  Nice spelling there Cotton?

What a dumbass.....  :silly:


Mmmmmm....  Casue's

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Lost Casue's?  Nice spelling there Cotton?

What a dumbass.....  :silly:


Mmmmmm....  Casue's



Psssttt! @catfish1957 the moron is much easier to live with on ignore.
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Trump should have just stuck to China IMO... who we all know are the scumbags of the earth when it comes to trade.

Yes.  China won its manufacturing by destroying the local environment, and sending trash into the Pacific Ocean along with the slop they emit into the atmosphere.  Their monopoly on antibiotics is a national security threat, and theft of IP should have been addressed long ago.  Expansionism threatens our supply of semiconductors.  By waging a broader war on imports, Trump has lost the means to focus on the worst abusers.

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Maybe it's time for Congress to take away his toys? Reassert itself as the intended overseer of US trade, as was intended by the framers.

History did not begin yesterday @Weird Tolkienish Figure  The "toy" you most want to take away is his courage ---- because he's the only one who has it.

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History did not begin yesterday @Weird Tolkienish Figure  The "toy" you most want to take away is his courage ---- because he's the only one who has it.

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Oh I'm fully aware that the libs used to be pro-tariff... IIRC it was that Pat Buchanan guy, the first conservative I had heard arguing for a pro tariff viewpoint, which was novel to me. Doesn't really justify them though. Or that this could have been handled better.

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You realize that Stevie Forbes has his head so far up the NWO crowd's ass so far,  that he hasn't seen the sunshine for decades?

Secondly, given the complexity of how many different tariff rates, and products are involved world wide,  there had to be some level of extrapolation required , otherwise this process of fixing a rate for 100+ country would be almost impossible  task.

Thirdly, and most important, even as a approximate, that Trump's rates still are the same or lower than the rate being invoked by country of trade.  This seems to keep being overlooked.   Trump is having to fight off the MSM, loony dims, and Bush republicans.  I have used several times the "Kick Me" note that was used as a prank in high school.  We are 30-40 years of wearing that perpetual "kick me" sign.  When is it enough?

And last, am I 100% sure that Trump's tariff policy is going to work?   No....  But we are out of alternatives, if we want to avoid the fiscal cliff.

I'm confident they will work and he won't negotiate the rates to zero because without the tariffs he would not have gotten trillions of dollars in commitments to build new factories and businesses in the USA.

The old WWII global order is coming to an end and it's death is long past due.
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I'm confident they will work and he won't negotiate the rates to zero because without the tariffs he would not have gotten trillions of dollars in commitments to build new factories and businesses in the USA.

The old WWII global order is coming to an end and it's death is long past due.

Thumbs up....   The only reason I am concerned is if regional trade confederations like what just happened with SK-Japan-Chicoms starts, gets internal support, and they leverage their own trade internal practices, to exploit synergies in such a way that the become much less reliant on our trade.  Even to the point that they can start imposing  embargos.

I do like your optimism though.  I am just not at that point yet.
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Remember what Reagan said about tariffs...


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I'm confident they will work and he won't negotiate the rates to zero because without the tariffs he would not have gotten trillions of dollars in commitments to build new factories and businesses in the USA.

The old WWII global order is coming to an end and it's death is long past due.

You realize that's all a pocket full of promises that will take far longer than Tumpy's short years to realize... You really think that will hold up after he's gone and the Dems are back in office?

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Remember what Reagan said about tariffs...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t5QK03KXPc


I am fully aware with Reagan's philosphy, but the greatest fiscal conservative POTUS in our history, isn't RWR, its Coolidge.  He has a totally different take on the tariff matter.  And with some exceptions, it seems Trump is more aligned here than with the Gipper.  Here is a brief exerpt....

"This philosophy also consisted of a commitment to sound money as exemplified by the gold standard, low levels of taxation and regulation, balanced budgets, and a commitment to property rights and economic liberty. These principles along with the protective tariff defined the political economy of the Republican Party. The doctrine of protectionism was not just putting “America first,” but also protecting the entire economy and labor by preserving manufacturing and solid wages for workers."

https://coolidgefoundation.org/blog/grand-old-protectionists-calvin-coolidge-and-the-full-dinner-pail/
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Thumbs up....   The only reason I am concerned is if regional trade confederations like what just happened with SK-Japan-Chicoms starts, gets internal support, and they leverage their own trade internal practices, to exploit synergies in such a way that the become much less reliant on our trade.  Even to the point that they can start imposing  embargos.

I do like your optimism though.  I am just not at that point yet.

We are in the process of doing that with the Americas. Canada and Mexico are coming around and South America was not hit that hard on the tariffs. We are seeing a restructuring of the global economic order. The countries making the most noise are not great allies to begin with.

In the end years from now we are going to be really happy Pres. Trump did this. Wall Street may not like it, but they don't care about Main Street. They've been selling the lie for decades that moving manufacturing to cheaper labor sources would be good for the USA because items we buy would be cheaper. I rather pay more and see the next generation of deplorables have a shot at the American Dream.

 
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We are in the process of doing that with the Americas. Canada and Mexico are coming around and South America was not hit that hard on the tariffs. We are seeing a restructuring of the global economic order. The countries making the most noise are not great allies to begin with.

In the end years from now we are going to be really happy Pres. Trump did this. Wall Street may not like it, but they don't care about Main Street. They've been selling the lie for decades that moving manufacturing to cheaper labor sources would be good for the USA because items we buy would be cheaper. I rather pay more and see the next generation of deplorables have a shot at the American Dream.

Well put, and and aspect that has been a long time overlooked.  I think a certain level of sacrifice is needed if we want to retain a decent standard of living for our descendants in this country.  Because of government has criminally failed us on this topic for decades.
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You realize that's all a pocket full of promises that will take far longer than Tumpy's short years to realize... You really think that will hold up after he's gone and the Dems are back in office?

I remember libs arguing that we shouldn't open up ANWAR because it would be years before we saw the oil being produced. If we don't start now when?

Do you remember the tariffs Pres. Trump placed on China before Biden stole the 2020 election? They were never dropped because the Rats loved the revenue and dropping them would have created a huge backlash. Wall Street and the legacy media are freaking out because they know these tariffs are never going to fully go away. They may get reduced, but there will always be tariffs at some level.

Having spent 40 years in real estate I'm well aware that the big investments will take years, but once it becomes clear the tariffs are not going away and ground starts getting broken the investments will go forward. We may pay more in the short run, but the benefits of having a growing middle class and security found in being able to make our essential goods more than outweights that.

We have a beach head. Now it's time to win the war and save the Republic.

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Well put, and and aspect that has been a long time overlooked.  I think a certain level of sacrifice is needed if we want to retain a decent standard of living for our descendants in this country.  Because of government has criminally failed us on this topic for decades.

Amen Brother!

We need to embrace the belief it is our duty to leave this place better off.

The worse thing to do when everyone is freaking out is to fall in with the crowd and panic. It's going to be bumpy for awhile but it will work out in the end.
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History did not begin yesterday @Weird Tolkienish Figure  The "toy" you most want to take away is his courage ---- because he's the only one who has it.

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