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Re: Donald Trump Sends Warning To Enemies As He Says Biden Pardons Void
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2025, 07:41:59 pm »
rusty corrodes us with:
"Hard to imagine that The Federal Judiciary would allow Trump's voiding of these pardons..."

This is one of those issues that only a U.S. Supreme Court decision will settle.
Or more correctly, "attempts to settle"...

The founders, to a man, would be rolling their eyes and shaking their heads at such logic. Judges are not kings!
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Re: Donald Trump Sends Warning To Enemies As He Says Biden Pardons Void
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2025, 07:46:11 pm »
Everything signed with an auto pen with Biden's name should be rendered null and void, and everyone given a pardon should be fully investigated and brought to justice, starting with every Biden family member.

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Re: Donald Trump Sends Warning To Enemies As He Says Biden Pardons Void
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2025, 07:53:51 pm »
I especially have problems with pardoning people for anything they might have done, even though it has not been recognized, led to an indictment, or led to formal charges or a conviction.

That isn't a pardon, but a retroactive letter of marque.
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Re: Donald Trump Sends Warning To Enemies As He Says Biden Pardons Void
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2025, 10:48:16 pm »
It's more shit that were a Democrat doing it you'd all be fit to be tied.

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Re: Donald Trump Sends Warning To Enemies As He Says Biden Pardons Void
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2025, 11:15:23 pm »
It's more shit that were a Democrat doing it you'd all be fit to be tied.
Revocation is problematic, but the scope of a pardon for crimes unindicted, uncharged, and without conviction is over reaching. That alone needs to be questioned.

As to whether ol' sniffy ever knew what the autopen was signing, and what could be questioned as a result, well, that is yet another issue.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis