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Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
by Dan Wos
6:00am Thursday, March 06, 2025
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To some people, firearm background checks are accepted and considered a way to prevent bad guys from getting guns. They’re completely wrong, and here’s why.

The background check system, otherwise known as the “government hijacking of a God-given right and selling it back to you as a government-issued privilege,” is unconstitutional and dangerous to law-abiding citizens.

As we inch our way toward state-to-state reciprocity with constitutional carry in our major cities, we recognize that many states not only require a government-issued permission slip to carry a gun but also make it almost impossible to obtain that permit. Even if you can make it through the rat maze of training, fees, background checks, storage requirements, magazine capacity limitations, and a list of other constitution-violating requirements, most of society is off limits to you and your firearm because many state gun laws have deemed public and even private places gun-free zones.

The idea of undergoing and passing background checks as a prerequisite to exercising the Second Amendment should have never been a thought even in the darkest corners of the most communist minds of the most radical left-wing ideologues, not only because it violates the rights of American citizens but also because it puts undeserving Americans in legal jeopardy and in physical danger.

According to the Government Accountability Office, in 2017, the NICS background check system denied 112,090 people the right to purchase a firearm. Of those 112,090 denials, only 12,710 were investigated.  ...
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2025, 02:45:17 pm »
Owning a firearm is a right. Voting is a right.

It should be no more difficult to buy a gun than it is to register to vote!  :patriot:
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2025, 02:49:56 pm »
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The idea of undergoing and passing background checks as a prerequisite to exercising the Second Amendment ...
Trying to imagine the reaction of anyone in the U.S. from the 1600s to the first half of the 20th century hearing that state and federal governments put such draconian restrictions on gun ownership. They'd be flabbergasted.
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2025, 03:26:46 pm »
Trying to imagine the reaction of anyone in the U.S. from the 1600s to the first half of the 20th century hearing that state and federal governments put such draconian restrictions on gun ownership. They'd be flabbergasted.

I don't think flabbergasted is the right word.
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2025, 03:55:49 pm »
YES. It's all bullcrap.

Give me 500 bucks, throw me into any city, stone cold and i will have a gun in 24 hrs.

No registration, no background checks. Just a simple transaction, using the very same methods that criminals use.

So WHO exactly are those background checks for?

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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2025, 04:00:22 pm »
YES. It's all bullcrap.

Give me 500 bucks, throw me into any city, stone cold and i will have a gun in 24 hrs.

No registration, no background checks. Just a simple transaction, using the very same methods that criminals use.

So WHO exactly are those background checks for?

They're for people who have had restraining orders put on them...that have/had medical marijuana cards or have purchased weed within the past year or so...or who take medication for depression/anxiety.

Any group of people who can be deemed 'dangerous' to society.
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2025, 04:13:32 pm »
They're for people who have had restraining orders put on them...that have/had medical marijuana cards or have purchased weed within the past year or so...or who take medication for depression/anxiety.

Any group of people who can be deemed 'dangerous' to society.


I was dangerous to society all my life, and nearly ALL of my guns were bought off the street, just like any other azzhole can do. As far as the criminal element is concerned, it is *NO* barrier at all.

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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2025, 04:18:43 pm »
BTW My right to self defense is MINE. I need ask no one's permission, and never will.

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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2025, 04:37:32 pm »
BTW My right to self defense is MINE. I need ask no one's permission, and never will.

This is something upon which we can totally agree!    tipping hat!!

Problem is that if I were to conceal carry into the District of Columbia and for example, don't come to a complete stop at a "stop" sign, it can definitely ruin what little life I have remaining.
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2025, 04:41:23 pm »
This is something upon which we can totally agree!    tipping hat!!

Problem is that if I were to conceal carry into the District of Columbia and for example, don't come to a complete stop at a "stop" sign, it can definitely ruin what little life I have remaining.

Last time I went home to Chicago, I was packing a .45 in a shoulder rig the whole time.

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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2025, 05:07:25 pm »
Last time I went home to Chicago, I was packing a .45 in a shoulder rig the whole time.
In my car I holster a gun in a pillow I use for lumbar support, hint if I deem you a threat and start waving a pillow in your direction it might be stuffed with more than memory foam.

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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2025, 05:07:33 pm »
Last time I went home to Chicago, I was packing a .45 in a shoulder rig the whole time.

That's all? You're very brave!!!  :yowsa:
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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2025, 05:50:44 pm »
In my car I holster a gun in a pillow I use for lumbar support, hint if I deem you a threat and start waving a pillow in your direction it might be stuffed with more than memory foam.

Both of my uncles ran service trucks in Chicago - both had unregistered guns for defense. If ever they needed to use them, they could easily be discarded.

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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2025, 06:17:17 pm »
In my car I holster a gun in a pillow I use for lumbar support, hint if I deem you a threat and start waving a pillow in your direction it might be stuffed with more than memory foam.

Hey, thanks for the warning!  :laugh:

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Re: Opinion: Should firearms background check system be abolished?
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2025, 09:03:41 pm »
There is one thing not mentioned I like about having a background check, it is a lasting incentive for folks NOT to do Felon things. It is a lasting punishment, and though some people reform, most Felons don't (and are repeat offenders).. It is something that sticks in their gills even if they murdered someone and got out of jail 4 years later due to liberal judges. Is is always fair to the rare truly reformed person, well no, but they should of thought of that before hand, If I can go 40+ years without so much as a speeding ticket, they can go without selling drugs.

And at the risk of ticking a few off here, I don't care for people taking drugs with guns either. Now days it is too easy to get a doctor to give a prescription for anything and everything (heck, with the right doctor some have avoided the draft). My back hurts nearly constant too, I get headaches too and a dozen other things, but I don't smoke something that alters my senses and shoot a gun.

That said, the right to defend oneself comes from God, not the government. If you are of right mind, if I was a free former felon, I probable would break the government's law in keeping a gun at home, but I damn sure wouldn't advertise it. But I won't cry if every crack house ex-Felon still selling out of their home is arrested and given extra time because of illegal guns. The problem is how many folks now days have no problem risking being a felon, because they don't see any real time doing bad stuff, it is worth the risk. Make it "not" worth the risk to the wiser, and at least losing gun rights (and voting) is a long term deterrent. 

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