JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet

[catfish1957]

Only this time you will have destroyed 80 years of friendship.

That's a joke right?  You  are equating Marshall plan Trillions of $ with friendship? Europe, the past 80 years has behaved more like a high dollar hooker, than any friend.  You think they'd been our friend without the massive and constant payola?

I didn't think naivety was that strong in your portfolio, but I guess it is.

[jmyrlefuller]

One can support the Ukrainian cause while also recognizing Zelensky(y) is a crook and a poser who isn't capable of stopping the Russian offensive and is only interested in bilking money from the West.

[Bigun]

thanks for outing yourself as a Russian shill. Reagan would be disappointed. https://youtu.be/GUQm7UqF-YA?si=8cdZ5C7kf4rXaZm-

Yet more Zelenski shill BS. I have rarely posted on this thread and when I have it was to say "A pox on BOTH houses"! Your boy screwed the pooch in the Whitehouse the other day and there is no getting around that FACT!

[catfish1957]

One can support the Ukrainian cause while also recognizing Zelensky(y) is a crook and a poser who isn't capable of stopping the Russian offensive and is only interested in bilking money from the West.

Very accurate observation....   In this whole mess,  it has been inspiring to watch the brave Ukes fight with vigor and resolve.  Too bad they can't find just one leader, who has their best interest at heart.  Heartbreaking that with Z's plan to escalate, that so many more will be dying.
We are inches away from a 1917 World War I meat grinder, that's even worse than now.

[bigheadfred]

While we are on the subject of facts I really wish someone would post the parts of the treaties/agreements Trump has signed with the Russians and Ukrainians that they object to the most. 

[Canuck Conservative]

at what part does the funding end?  Our bankruptcy as a country?

Oh get real. Funding to Ukraine accounts for less than 1% of the US Budget, yet it's all you squeal about, all day ...  Ukraine won't make the US bankrupt

The other 99% - which you always ignore - is doing the real damage

[mystery-ak]

Zelensky Says He Is Ready for a Redo with Trump After Oval Office Fiasco

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday he is willing to return to the White House to discuss “serious issues” if invited despite the collapse of talks with President Donald Trump during a meeting intended to conclude in the signing of a minerals agreement on Friday.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/03/zelensky-says-he-is-ready-for-a-redo-with-trump-after-oval-office-fiasco/

[Free Vulcan]

thanks for outing yourself as a Russian shill. Reagan would be disappointed. https://youtu.be/GUQm7UqF-YA?si=8cdZ5C7kf4rXaZm-

And thank you for being a Biden bootlicking woke globalist who's happy to pour our blood and treasure down a rathole for a corrupt grifter skater punk who'll whore himself out for any deal he can get, so you can go off on your Cap'n Queeg quest.

[Free Vulcan]

Oh get real. Funding to Ukraine accounts for less than 1% of the US Budget, yet it's all you squeal about, all day ...  Ukraine won't make the US bankrupt

The other 99% - which you always ignore - is doing the real damage

I'd much rather spend that money on homeless and vets, which you don't seem to care about.

I can see you're find with spending billions down a rathole for whatever 'get Russia' policy you can whip up.

[catfish1957]

Oh get real. Funding to Ukraine accounts for less than 1% of the US Budget, yet it's all you squeal about, all day ...  Ukraine won't make the US bankrupt

The other 99% - which you always ignore - is doing the real damage

Ignoring the other 99%?   That's the funniest thing I have read so far today.  You really need to check my posting history, before making silly accusations like that.  Wish I had a $ each time I have said "gut Fedzilla" here, but i see you are a "part timer", so I understand.

[catfish1957]

Zelensky Says He Is Ready for a Redo with Trump After Oval Office Fiasco

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said Sunday he is willing to return to the White House to discuss “serious issues” if invited despite the collapse of talks with President Donald Trump during a meeting intended to conclude in the signing of a minerals agreement on Friday.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2025/03/03/zelensky-says-he-is-ready-for-a-redo-with-trump-after-oval-office-fiasco/

They only way I'd let Z-Grift in, is if we have Tyrus from Gutfeld there to toss him out like a sack of potatoes for photo posterity.

[Wingnut]

They only way I'd let Z-Grift in, is if we have Tyrus from Gutfeld there to toss him out like a sack of potatoes for photo posterity.

I'd pay real money to see that!

[Free Vulcan]

They only way I'd let Z-Grift in, is if we have Tyrus from Gutfeld there to toss him out like a sack of potatoes for photo posterity.

The dude is starting to sound bipolar, and it's obvious he's way in over his head on the world stage.

[bigheadfred]

Rob Jenkins
@profontheright
If Putin isn’t stopped, all of Europe could succumb to totalitarianism.

People could be jailed for social media posts.

They could be threatened with arrest for praying in their homes.

Rape gangs and child traffickers could run rampant.

It’s too awful to contemplate.

[Free Vulcan]

Rob Jenkins
@profontheright
If Putin isn’t stopped, all of Europe could succumb to totalitarianism.

People could be jailed for social media posts.

They could be threatened with arrest for praying in their homes.

Rape gangs and child traffickers could run rampant.

It’s too awful to contemplate.

I see what he did there.

Right on the money. This is why I want to GTHO of all of it.

[libertybele]

Oh get real. Funding to Ukraine accounts for less than 1% of the US Budget, yet it's all you squeal about, all day ...  Ukraine won't make the US bankrupt

The other 99% - which you always ignore - is doing the real damage

@Canuck Conservative When Canada starts paying their fare share to NATO and equalizes tariffs between our countries then you can lecture us on what the US pays to Ukraine.  We have given them BILLIONS!!!  We payout plenty to countries around the World.  We cannot continue to do so.  The real damage will be seen when the U.S. falls -- then the rest of the World (outside of China) will likely fall as well.

What will the World do without American aid?  We need to STOP the bleeding of our country and START to demand a little something in return.

Z blew it.  Plain and simple. His real goal I believe (just my opinion) is that he wants US boots on Ukraine soil.  Not going to happen. I hope that Trump gets us out of NATO. 

[libertybele]

I see what he did there.

Right on the money. This is why I want to GTHO of all of it.

Amen.

[catfish1957]

Amen.

Just think how much we could slow down the deficit acceleration by withdrawing from NATO alone ($800B a year)

[mountaineer]

your ignorance is stunning, the great Ronald Reagan would be turning in his grave with your attitude.

Boo hoo. As if you had the slightest understanding of Reagan. Be gone, you have no power here.

[Timber Rattler]

Boo hoo. As if you had the slightest understanding of Reagan. Be gone, you have no power here.

So Reagan is passe now, eh? 

Well, @mystery-ak might as well replace Reagan's photo on the banner of this page with Trump's, since that's where we're at now.

[DB]

Just think how much we could slow down the deficit acceleration by withdrawing from NATO alone ($800B a year)

Why do you spew such crap???

The entire US military budget is about $800 billion a year. Our NATO spending is a fraction of that. Again, the truth matters no matter how much glee you take in spewing false information.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump has just bleep off 80 years of history. It’s making America weaker.

Trump's not trapped in the 1940s; he is living and governing in this century against today's global threat.  That threat is not Rissia, it's China.

[mountaineer]

So Reagan is passe now, eh? 

Not what I said. Your reading comprehension is as poor as your understanding of world affairs.

[Timber Rattler]

Trump's not trapped in the 1940s;

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

[Timber Rattler]

Not what I said. Your reading comprehension is as poor as your understanding of world affairs.

I just removed your insult to another member...you can post a comment without calling them an idiot.

Consider this a warning...

[mountaineer]

And you're an idiot.

  Pathetic. No argument, just name calling.

[Free Vulcan]

thanks for outing yourself as a Russian shill. Reagan would be disappointed. https://youtu.be/GUQm7UqF-YA?si=8cdZ5C7kf4rXaZm-

Says the WEF globalist bootlicker. Unlike you, Ronald Reagan wouldn't have been happy to spend billions down a rathole and send our boys over there to be hacked up and slaughtered and blood and bodies everywhere, because Ronald Reagan would never had put our boys in harms way for something that's Europe's problem. That's not who Ronald Reagan was, because he was Ronald Reagan, and that's not what Ronald Reagan does.

Did I say Ronald Reagan enough? Just in case, one more time: Ronald Reagan.

[Right_in_Virginia]

all I know is Reagan, thatcher, Churchill would find the likes of yourself pathetic. Giving away 80 years of democratic justice, 80 years of friendship and alliances and sucking up for a dictatorship, it’s pathetic.

[catfish1957]

Why do you spew such crap???

The entire US military budget is about $800 billion a year. Our NATO spending is a fraction of that. Again, the truth matters no matter how much glee you take in spewing false information.

Sorry, I had the wrong number at hand, info collection overload....  It's more like $3B.  Still $3B will go far, considering the EU has plenty of fire power to counter Russia, without us.  With that, I am guessing getting the hell out Europe will save us at least $100B.  Stick that number where the sun doesn't shine.

[mountaineer]

Myroslav Oleshko
@oleshkomyroslav
🇺🇸🇺🇦Americans and Europeans, watch this video! This is my Ukraine.
I will tell you the truth about Ukraine that your media is hiding.
Zelensky has banned Ukrainians from protesting against the government’s actions. This young man held a sign in Kyiv that said: “War is not a reason to build a dictatorship. Zelensky’s thugs are still kidnapping people!”

And that was it. The police arrested him and threw him in prison.

At the same time, Zelensky uses American democracy to organize paid rallies in New York, Washington, and other cities in the U.S. and Europe to create the illusion of his support among Western citizens.

In Ukraine today, it is IMPOSSIBLE to engage in opposition activities.
Hundreds of well-known journalists, bloggers, and politicians have already been arrested. Imagine, a member of parliament was recently arrested just for criticizing Andriy Yermak, Zelensky’s deputy.

Another opposition MP, Oleksandr Dubinsky, was arrested for supporting Donald Trump.

Opposition politician Petro Poroshenko has been hit with illegal sanctions and is being threatened with prison for criticizing Zelensky.

Everyone is now intimidated.

All TV channels are under government control. 99% of bloggers in the country are bribed with corrupt money and USAID grants.

To have the ability to speak the truth and express my opinion, I left Ukraine—and was immediately hit with fabricated criminal cases for criticizing the government.

My colleague, opposition blogger Denys Yelysevych, who is currently in the U.S., could not be arrested. So instead, his mother was arrested in Kyiv for reposting a Facebook video criticizing Andriy Yermak.

The opposition is in exile. What do you think?

That’s why Zelensky refuses to hold elections and publicly states that he will not leave office, even though his presidential term ended a year ago.

I will continue publishing facts about Zelensky’s crimes and corruption, which I have gathered over the past six years of his rule.
Subscribe and retweet so the world can see.

I will say this as a Ukrainian who is opposed to Zelensky: Trump gave us hope and a chance for freedom, peace, and democracy.

Sincerely,
Ukrainian oppositionist, Myroslav Oleshko
3:14 AM · Mar 3, 2025

[mystery-ak]

Okay...this thread has gone downhill...Stop all the personal insults, you can make your point without them...

[catfish1957]

I understand its also being under-reported how many conscripts (young men under 18) are being kidnapped in Ukraine for the front lines.

JD alluded to it, during the Z-Grift exchange.  I hope he adds some details to get this out on official record.

[Timber Rattler]

Says the WEF globalist bootlicker. Unlike you, Ronald Reagan wouldn't have been happy to spend billions down a rathole and send our boys over there to be hacked up and slaughtered and blood and bodies everywhere, because Ronald Reagan would never had put our boys in harms way for something that's Europe's problem. That's not who Ronald Reagan was, because he was Ronald Reagan, and that's not what Ronald Reagan does.

Did I say Ronald Reagan enough? Just in case, one more time: Ronald Reagan.

I guess you never heard of Beirut, Libya, or Afghanistan?  Or Poland for that matter?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiwI1p5T8qQ

You have NO clue as to who Reagan was, or what he stood for.  Here's a taste...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/54cgb7hHnSM

[catfish1957]

I guess you never heard of Beirut, Libya, or Afghanistan?  Or Poland for that matter?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiwI1p5T8qQ

You have NO clue as to who Reagan was, or what he stood for.  Here's a taste...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/54cgb7hHnSM

You have no clue that 1980 USSR is much more of a menace than 2025 Russia.  Does the Russian boogey man keep you up at night

[Free Vulcan]

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

I don't believe in living in the past. Living in the past is for cowards. If you live in the past, you die in the past.

Mike Ditka

[Lando Lincoln]

Okay...this thread has gone downhill...Stop all the personal insults, you can make your point without them...

Agreed. This has been a valuable thread until it wasn’t.

[Free Vulcan]

You have no clue that 1980 USSR is much more of a menace than 2025 Russia.  Does the Russian boogey man keep you up at night

It must be a Cap'n Queeg thing. Notice these guys are crickets about China.

[Free Vulcan]

I guess you never heard of Beirut, Libya, or Afghanistan?  Or Poland for that matter?

You have NO clue as to who Reagan was, or what he stood for.  Here's a taste...

So are you saying we should put massive boots on the ground in Ukraine?

[catfish1957]

So are you saying we should put massive boots on the ground in Ukraine?

Which is in essence was in the REM agreement as a contingent.  I hope every parent in the UK realizes what their PM signed yesterday.

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/IanJaeger29/status/1896389128700518449

 

[Canuck Conservative]

I don't believe in living in the past. Living in the past is for cowards. If you live in the past, you die in the past.

Mike Ditka

Nobody's talking about living in the past; we are always in the Present, obviously.

But as the great Winston Churchill - who knew a thing or two about History - said, "Understanding the Past helps us to see into the Future"

Violent and malicious dictators have been a threat to civilization before, just as they are now. Knowing how they were successfully beaten in the Past can be useful in countering them.

[Lando Lincoln]

I don't believe in living in the past. Living in the past is for cowards. If you live in the past, you die in the past.

Mike Ditka

Interesting quote considering most Bears fans live in 1985.

[Wingnut]

Interesting quote considering most Bears fans live in 1985.

The bears have been rebuilding..  Rebuilding other teams, since 1985.

[Free Vulcan]

Interesting quote considering most Bears fans live in 1985.

  Well played sir, well played.

That said, I still enjoy the Superbowl Shuffle. 

[Free Vulcan]

Nobody's talking about living in the past; we are always in the Present, obviously.

But as the great Winston Churchill - who knew a thing or two about History - said, "Understanding the Past helps us to see into the Future"

Violent and malicious dictators have been a threat to civilization before, just as they are now. Knowing how they were successfully beaten in the Past can be useful in countering them.

Your attempt to equivocate Russia with both the Soviets and Nazi Germany is definitely living in the past.

So riddle me this, sitting all the way up there in the cheap seats of Canada, do you support American troops on the ground in Ukraine getting killed and slaughtered?

I'm not talking about a big amount, maybe 1% of our forces, kinda like the percentage of money we're sending there?

[catfish1957]

Well played sir, well played.

That said, I still enjoy the Superbowl Shuffle. 

My lasting memory was watching the Fridge run for that SB touchdown.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

https://twitter.com/IanJaeger29/status/1896389128700518449

 

This is the same idiot that wanted to overthrow the Government with the military and make Trump dictator for life.

Even publicly stated such.

[Wingnut]

My lasting memory was watching the Fridge run for that SB touchdown.

That should have been Walter's TD.

[Free Vulcan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7Vn_WKkWU

The EU, Russia, Zelensky...who knew a one hit wonder from Stealer's Wheel over 50 years ago would be one of the most astute pieces of political analysis in history?

[Canuck Conservative]

Your attempt to equivocate Russia with both the Soviets and Nazi Germany is definitely living in the past.

- Both NG and the SU invaded neighboring countries, without any provocation, just to steal their land ... Russia does the same (Georgia 2007, Ukraine 2014 & 2022)

- NZ persecuted (as in, jailing and killing) and scapegoated an unpopular minority (Jews); Russia does the same (with gays)

- Both NG and the SU eliminated opposition politicians; Putin does that too (he whacked Navalny just over 1 year ago)

There's a lot more similarities, I don't have the time.

Yes, the comparison is still valid. Russia is Nazi Germany 2.0. The desperate attempts to deny it are lame.

Not living in the past here, but using the past to warn us about the present.