JUST IN: President Trump and Vice President JD Vance excoriate President Zelensky during heated meet

[mountaineer]

Tom Bevan
@TomBevanRCP
Please keep in mind all of the Dems' and the media's bitching about how Trump "repeats Putin's talking points" while you read this front page story in the Washington Post based on a Russian official's interview on state TV.

5:36 AM · Mar 3, 2025

[Timber Rattler]

You and your ilk would have watched nazi germany succeed.

 

[mountaineer]

Your ignorance is stunning, Rattler.

[Stevensr123]

Nope...    No comparison.  Nazi German is many many multitudes more powerful than modern Russia. Russia's GDP is 11th, and dropping like a rock. Their currency is at an all time low.  One rouble equals one US penny.  They are one oil market crash away from being finished,   If you read up-thread you will find where I posted a Russia to EU comparison of forces, economics, demographics, etc.  The overwhelming advantage goes to the EU.  Putin has no chance.  And if you really parse it...  they don't need us either, and why I think leaving NATO should be on the table.

Now, if this discussion had happened say 1956-1975-ish, I would be on the opposite side of this argument.  But, there is no comparison whatsoever between Russia and the old USSR, except that they have despot rulers.  If anybody that thinks that Putin has the same cards as Stalin, they just doesn't have an understanding of geo-political matters.   

Hate to keep bringing up that most of us stopped being afraid of the Boogey Man when we were about 5.  Well, the Russian Boogey Man some how haunts an unifromed faction, even here.   The real boogey men are the Chicoms.  This distraction is to our detriment.

your ilk are abandoning an ally, turning your back on Europe. What’s going to happen when you come calling for help when you want to deal with china?

Your actions today are going to get Japan, Australia etc to start shifting away from American dependence, Europe is going to stop buying American arms, other countries are going to stop believing American exceptionalism, the bricks movement is going to increase.

Trump has just bleep off 80 years of history. It’s making America weaker.

[catfish1957]

Nazi Germany never had any nukes, satellites, nuclear submarines, or ICBMs ... Russia has 10,000 nukes

Dumb comment

The EU has the same except that many nukes.  Which btw become more into play if Zellgrift has continued success in escalating this conflict.

Did you even f'n read my EU-Russian comparison?

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[Stevensr123]

The EU has the same except that many nukes.  Which btw become more into play if Zellgrift has continued success in escalating this conflict.

Did you even f'n read my EU-Russian comparison?

...  (10X dumber comment)

maybe Putin shouldn’t have invaded you dog. Edit doge…

[catfish1957]

your ilk are abandoning an ally, turning your back on Europe. What’s going to happen when you come calling for help when you want to deal with china?

Your actions today are going to get Japan, Australia etc to start shifting away from American dependence, Europe is going to stop buying American arms, other countries are going to stop believing American exceptionalism, the bricks movement is going to increase.

Trump has just bleep off 80 years of history. It’s making America weaker.

Is your vocabulary limited to the word "ilk".  Provide a more cognizant response, when you learn a little more about geo-political politics, and the dynamics around it. This silly response is full of holes.   I am tired of you rubes.

[Stevensr123]

Your ignorance is stunning, Rattler.

your ignorance is stunning, the great Ronald Reagan would be turning in his grave with your attitude.

[catfish1957]

maybe Putin shouldn’t have invaded you dog. Edit doge…

???
Is English your second...or third language?

[catfish1957]

[Stevensr123]

Is your vocabulary limited to the word "ilk".  Provide a more cognizant response, when you learn a little more about geo-political politics, and the dynamics around it. This silly response is full of holes.   I am tired of you rubes.

all I know is Reagan, thatcher, Churchill would find the likes of yourself pathetic. Giving away 80 years of democratic justice, 80 years of friendship and alliances and sucking up for a dictatorship, it’s pathetic.

[Timber Rattler]

Your ignorance is stunning, Rattler.

And your hubris and complacency is stunning.

 

[Timber Rattler]

I am tired of you rubes.

So says the chief rube.

 

[Stevensr123]

???
Is English your second...or third language?

sorry I don’t speak Russian.

[Timber Rattler]

all I know is Reagan, thatcher, Churchill would find the likes of yourself pathetic. Giving away 80 years of democratic justice, 80 years of friendship and alliances and sucking up for a dictatorship, it’s pathetic.

Yeah, it's totally ironic that Reagan figures so prominently on the top banner of this page considering that he spent his entire career battling the Russians.  Now, here we have a large portion of the regular posters cheering them on! 

Reagan would be appalled.

[Stevensr123]

Yeah, it's totally ironic that Reagan figures so prominently on the top banner of this page considering that he spent his entire career battling the Russians.  Now, here we have a large portion of the regular posters cheering them on! 

Reagan would be appalled.

yep. https://youtu.be/GUQm7UqF-YA?si=afa84Gjgvc16N9Zs

People are losing morality. This isn’t the America myself and the world knew, it’s a shell. The maga are acting like liberals, appeasing does not work as shown throughout history. Trump is acting weaker than Biden.

[Bigun]

Is your vocabulary limited to the word "ilk".  Provide a more cognizant response, when you learn a little more about geo-political politics, and the dynamics around it. This silly response is full of holes.   I am tired of you rubes.

I'm tired of ALL the bots! Every one!

[Stevensr123]

I'm tired of ALL the bots! Every one!

having an opinion which aligns with the great Ronald Reagan doesn’t make me a bot. Listen to his words. You yourself if you back this appeasement of a dictator puts you in the wrong side of history.

[Timber Rattler]

I'm tired of ALL the bots! Every one!

So everybody who doesn't agree with you is a 'bot'?

[catfish1957]

I'm tired of ALL the bots! Every one!

Neocon sycophants who fail to have learned the lessons of the past.  I once was a "W" supporter too.  But after living through Vietnam, W's perpetual wars,  and endless $'s to fund conflicts  outside this country? I think we have had enough, and we need to let the other side of the world fight it out among themselves.

Uncle Sugar now has a $37T credit card debt.  That is unsustainable, and why these bots are so misguided, and blinded by Z's Teal and Yellow traveling medicine show.  I still haven't heard one peep from them, at what part does the funding end?  Our bankruptcy as a country?

[Bigun]

So everybody who doesn't agree with you is a 'bot'?

No! Not at all. Bots are those who continue to post party line BS even in the face of undisputed FACTS. Thank you @Stevensr123 @Timber Rattler for outing yourselves.

[Stevensr123]

Neocon sycophants who fail to have learned the lessons of the past.  I once was a "W" supporter too.  But after living through Vietnam, W's perpetual wars,  and endless $'s to fund conflicts  outside this country? I think we have had enough, and we need to let the other side of the world fight it out among themselves.

Uncle Sugar now has a $37T credit card debt.  That is unsustainable, and why these bots are so misguided, and blinded by Z's Teal and Yellow traveling medicine show.  I still haven't heard one peep from them, at what part does the funding end?  Our bankruptcy as a country?

the same arguments where made before America joined world war 2, we can’t afford it, it’s not our problem etc the argument works until it doesn’t.

America will have a problem with china at some point and like after 9/11 you will ask for help. Only this time you will have destroyed 80 years of friendship.

It will cost America more than 120 billion by abandoning its allies. Countries will stop buying American equipment, costing jobs and money into the economy. It’s so short sighted.

[Stevensr123]

No! Not at all. Bots are those who continue to post party line BS even in the face of undisputed FACTS. Thank you @Stevensr123 @Timber Rattler for outing yourselves.

thanks for outing yourself as a Russian shill. Reagan would be disappointed. https://youtu.be/GUQm7UqF-YA?si=8cdZ5C7kf4rXaZm-

[Timber Rattler]

No! Not at all. Bots are those who continue to post party line BS even in the face of undisputed FACTS. Thank you @Stevensr123 @Timber Rattler for outing yourselves.

Seems to me that your "FACTS" are very much in dispute. 

 

[Stevensr123]

The power of evil men lives on the cowardice of the good.