Zelenskyy lashes out at Trump over suggestion Ukraine started war, should hold elections again

[Kamaji]

??? Trump selling out Ukraine to Putin???  Gee, what would Z do without U.S. aid?

Zelenskyy imposed martial law awhile ago which has prevented Ukranians from another election.  As a result he likely will remain in place until this particular conflict between Russia and Ukraine is resolved.   Just sayin'.

[libertybele]

It's your credibility that is suffering here, not mine.

Some have even accused me of being a Putin lover -- imagine that.   

[DB]

Some have even accused me of being a Putin lover -- imagine that.   

You have offered no verifiable evidence Z is getting rich off the war to date but you keep asserting that is a fact and that you know it to be so from your "feelings".

I'm open to evidence, but a feeling isn't good enough.

And here's a little tidbit for you. Churchill was elected in 1935 and the election of 1940 was cancelled - because of WW2. Did that make Churchill a "dictator" because parliament canceled the election during the war.

[Hoodat]

For those who have forgotten, Trump's issue with Zelenskiy isn't because the Ukrainian President is corrupt.  Trump's issue is that Zelenskiy refused to be corrupt.  When Trump urged Zelenskiy to hire a certain prosecutor, Zelenskiy declined.  In other words, he wasn't going to sell out to the US leader like his predecessor did.

[Hoodat]

Some have even accused me of being a Putin lover -- imagine that.   

This statement doesn't have a single thing to do with your utter inability to back up the claims you've made against Zelenskiy's character.   As for accusations you've faced, I've never seen you as a Putin lover.  But good luck with that.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1892281614182281489

[DB]

Some have even accused me of being a Putin lover -- imagine that.   

And to add to that, the UK passed the emergency powers act in 1939 - essentially martial law - to fight for its survival.

[libertybele]

You have offered no verifiable evidence Z is getting rich off the war to date but you keep asserting that is a fact and that you know it to be so from your "feelings".

I'm open to evidence, but a feeling isn't good enough.

And here's a little tidbit for you. Churchill was elected in 1935 and the election of 1940 was cancelled - because of WW2. Did that make Churchill a "dictator" because parliament canceled the election during the war.

So prove that Z hasn't gotten rich off the war or prove he has suffered financially off the war....we can't.

I haven't called Z a dictator, all I mentioned was that there can't be another election until the Ukraine Parliament lifts martial law. There's been quite a bit of noise about Z not being popular; it all depends on what news source you read and the flavor of the day.

A lot of propaganda out there.

At any rate:

What are the problems with holding elections?

.............Firstly there are legal issues. Martial law would need to be lifted or changes made to the law to allow for elections under it. The other problems are logistical. About one million Ukrainians are engaged in fighting Russia far from home. Earlier this month Zelensky said: “If we suspend martial law we will lose the army, and voting without the military is dishonest.” Millions more are displaced from their homes, both within Ukraine and abroad. And up to six million more live in the territories that Russia has occupied since 2014 and again from 2022..........

https://www.thetimes.com/world/russia-ukraine-war/article/zelensky-election-approval-rating-martial-law-3z2fdhnz9

[Kamaji]

Some have even accused me of being a Putin lover -- imagine that.   

If the shoe fits ……

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1892281614182281489

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Congress Reps stealing our money through war funding?  Imagine that!

[Hoodat]

Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
It’s official: Elon Musk says US politicians are receiving “kickbacks” from Ukraine funding

Matt Gaetz said the exact same thing. The Ukraine War is “to launder money through”

Congress reps are literally, STEALING YOUR MONEY disguised as ‘war funding’

And after stealing your money, they've made Zelenskiy the scapegoat.  Over $100 billion that never made it to Ukraine.  Yet there are posters here insisting that this is somehow Zelenskiy's fault.

Keep it up, people.  Keep making Zelenskiy the bad guy, while Samantha Power and her ilk retire on their taxpayer funded nest eggs.

[Hoodat]

Congress Reps stealing our money through war funding?  Imagine that!

Been telling you that for three years now.  Yet you still keep saying Zelenskiy is the corrupt one.

[Hoodat]

So prove that Z hasn't gotten rich off the war or prove he has suffered financially off the war....we can't.

For the umpteenth time, one can't prove a negative.  The burden of proof falls on you.  YOU are the one making the claim.  YOU are the one who needs to back it up.  How many times do we need to go over this?

[berdie]

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1892281614182281489

And there you have it.

[libertybele]

Been telling you that for three years now.  Yet you still keep saying Zelenskiy is the corrupt one.

  Actually that's not exactly a newsflash and  long ago I posted many articles with timelines and links connecting that dots that Brandon & Company had their hands in the cookie jar -- also during Poroshenko's rule. As far as corruption; I just don't believe Z is completely innocent.

[Hoodat]

As far as corruption; I just don't believe Z is completely innocent.

Again, your basis.

[libertybele]

Again, your basis.

Again, as I have stated numerous times -- my "OPINION".  Again, what is your basis that Z is completely innocent?

We could ping-pong this back and forth -- but no thank you. 

[mystery-ak]

Mike Pence Trashes Trump Again – Scolds President Trump For Calling Out “Dictator” Zelensky

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/mike-pence-trashes-trump-again-scolds-president-trump/

[Hoodat]

Again, as I have stated numerous times -- my "OPINION".  Again, what is your basis that Z is completely innocent?

We could ping-pong this back and forth -- but no thank you. 

I never made the claim that Zelenskiy is completely innocent.

[libertybele]

I never made the claim that Zelenskiy is completely innocent.

Ok @Hoodat   

[Hoodat]

Who Started the War in Ukraine? The Answer Hasn’t Changed

Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and escalated to a full-scale war in 2022. With Russian troops advancing on Ukrainian soil and Russian missiles striking Ukrainian civilian infrastructure, it would be absurd to even ask this question. Yet in 2025, U.S. President Trump started “echoing Russian disinformation,” by pointing the finger at Kyiv for Russia’s war in Ukraine.

Jess Daly  |  Feb 19, 2025  |  21:58

Russia's war-for almost 11 years-has been inside Ukraine’s borders. Until 2024, Ukraine was only able to deploy its defense forces on its own soil, in response to Russia’s invasion. UNITED24 Media will examine how Moscow started this brutal war in its attempt to eliminate Ukraine.

US President Trump blamed Ukraine for its war with Russia. “You should have never started it, you could have made a deal,” Trump said during a press conference at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida, on February 18.

Since the newly elected Trump has been in office, there has been a political shift towards Russia after years of US and NATO Allies' efforts to isolate their leader, Vladimir Putin.

The US and Russia have had closed-door discussions without the presence of Ukraine or Europe, which Ukrainian President Zelenskyy and his European Allies vocally disapprove of.

Zelenskyy expressed concern that Trump “lives in a disinformation bubble,” attributing this to narratives spread by Russia.

When did Russia start the war in Ukraine?

Russia started the war in Ukraine in February 2014 by illegally attempting to annex Crimea, and then invading and occupying parts of the Donbas and Luhansk regions of Ukraine. In 2022, it escalated its aggression with a full-scale invasion  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/who-started-the-war-in-ukraine-the-answer-hasnt-changed-6043

[DCPatriot]

Mike Pence Trashes Trump Again – Scolds President Trump For Calling Out “Dictator” Zelensky

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/mike-pence-trashes-trump-again-scolds-president-trump/

Fact is that Zelensky was a party on that phone call where a quid pro quo was claimed, ending up in a bullsh*t Impeachment.

He could have stepped forward at anytime to refute the false charge.  He DIDN'T!!

So...why should President Trump trust this man now?

Dan Bongino covered this at length today during his first hour. 

Ukraine cannot win this war.  Time for a solution because both Russia and Ukraine are losing their nation's treasure in the form of young men.

Not going to pretend I'm an expert on this topic.  I'll leave that to others here.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Right after you prove that you didn't donate money to Joe Biden in the last two Presidential elections.

I know you're trying desperately to be clever with this statement, and I give you credit for the effort, but you really missed the mark.

The article @Timber Rattler was responding to includes specific allegations.  All TR, or you, have to do is prove the allegations are wrong.  For example, prove the press in Ukraine is still a diverse, robust industry and has not been changed by the Zelensky regime into a closed, state-run arm of the government. Show how the churches of the religious denominations disbanded by Zelensky are still open and freely operating.  Prove the political parties shut down by the Zelensky regime are still open, functioning and engaged in Ukraine politics.  ------

But, at least read the article.

[Hoodat]

I know you're trying desperately to be clever with this statement, and I give you credit for the effort, but you really missed the mark.

The article @Timber Rattler was responding to includes specific allegations.  All TR, or you, have to do is prove the allegations are wrong.

I'm making a specific allegation against you - that you donated to Joe Biden's presidential campaign in 2020 and Kamala Harris' campaign in 2024.  All you have to do is prove the allegations are wrong.

[libertybele]

Fact is that Zelensky was a party on that phone call where a quid pro quo was claimed, ending up in a bullsh*t Impeachment.

He could have stepped forward at anytime to refute the false charge.  He DIDN'T!!

So...why should President Trump trust this man now?

Dan Bongino covered this at length today during his first hour. 

Ukraine cannot win this war.  Time for a solution because both Russia and Ukraine are losing their nation's treasure in the form of young men.

Not going to pretend I'm an expert on this topic.  I'll leave that to others here.

Interesting.  I'm a fan of Bongino's and I'll have to listen to the broadcast that you're referring to.

Thanks for the post.