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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #650 on: January 14, 2025, 12:38:09 pm »
‘Life-threatening, destructive winds’ are here, LA fire official says

Los Angeles Fire Department Chief Kristin Crowley said that “Life threatening and destructive and widespread winds” are in Los Angeles County Tuesday.

“We are carefully managing our operations to ensure that we can quickly respond to any new fires,” she said.

“I urge and everybody here urges you to remain alert as danger has not yet passed,” Crowley also said. “Please follow all evacuation warnings and orders without delay and prioritize your safety.”
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« Reply #651 on: January 14, 2025, 12:39:12 pm »
The Angeles National Forest is now “temporarily closed” due to “critical fire danger.”

“The entire Angeles National Forest is temporarily closed for public safety and the protection of natural resources from Jan. 14, 2025, at 12 a.m. through Sunday, January 19, 2025, at 12:00 midnight. This closure is tied to critical fire danger,” the U.S. Forest Service wrote on X.

“The Angeles National Forest uses a system of graduated fire danger levels to indicate fire risk and corresponding restrictions for visitors, recreational cabin owners, and concessioners,” the U.S. Forest Service also said on its website. “A violation of the law can result in a $5,000 fine and/or six months in jail. Anyone causing a wildfire is liable for all costs of suppressing the fire.”
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #653 on: January 14, 2025, 01:03:56 pm »
By the bye...

I find the total absence of the mainstream media covering the 70mph winds today in favor of total coverage of the Pete Hegseth confirmation hearing to be hypocritical.

At least cut away for 5 minutes now and then...geez!
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #654 on: January 14, 2025, 01:14:14 pm »
Gas generators are going to be hard to come by soon, they've been banned for sale starting in a 2028.
The greenies can always run off their EV’s 😄😂🤣

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« Reply #655 on: January 14, 2025, 01:18:56 pm »
President Biden, Vice President Harris and Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas attended a briefing about the ongoing Southern California wildfires on Monday.

During the briefing, Biden said that the wildfires were" the worst in history," and added that firefighters were able to prevent the largest fires from moving into the area.

The federal government will cover the costs for 180 days, Biden said, which is expected to cost tens of billions of dollars. He has also activated 500 Marines to help California at this time.

The president also said that officials expect strong wind gusts that could be more fuel for fire. He did not take any questions from journalists at the briefing, but when Harris was asked if her Los Angeles home was OK, she appeared to mouth “so far.”

FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell was also at the briefing and said that her agency will reimburse hotel costs for families. She noted that FEMA may deny some applications if adequate documentation is not provided.

Fox News' Sarah Tobianski contributed to this report.
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Were they able to keep Joe from empathizing by telling his kitchen 🔥 story. Did Mayorkas express how the ‘migrants’ were probably hardest hit and needed to be helped first?

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #656 on: January 14, 2025, 01:36:41 pm »
Well Senator Johnson, fair enough. CDF failed to clear brush in Topanga State Park, despite LA requesting they do so.

Now do the aid adjustment that accounts for the Department of the Interior's failure to clear brush in Angeles National Forest, where the Eaton and Hurst Fires started. And maybe reform the pertinent agencies within Interior so that brush clearing projects that actually get done don't take 5 years to get approval, and more brush clearance projects actually gets done.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #657 on: January 14, 2025, 01:55:03 pm »
When California legislature passed bills to send Sacramento River water to southern California, Gruesome Newsome vetoed them in order to appeal to *environmentalists* and *save* the Delta smelt.  Oops!  Extremely foolish move.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #658 on: January 14, 2025, 03:15:38 pm »
Amy Reichert
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The LA County Fire Chief just said at this morning’s news conference:
“We are asking our unhoused neighbors to not have warming fires right now.”
11:05 AM · Jan 14, 2025

Senator Gern Blanston
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Ask? They should be they WILL BE imprisoned if they start a "warming" fire.
Right now? So it's okay to start a fire as long as no wildfires are burning?
This state is hopeless. They people that run it are beyond stupid.
Fire this DEI lesbian now.
12:51 PM · Jan 14, 2025

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1:56 PM · Jan 14, 2025
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Also from the clown show that is L.A. officialdom:

Amy Reichert
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Los Angeles County Public Health just announced:
“Please do not wear cloth or paper masks—they don’t filter out fine particles or ash." 🤡
11:31 AM · Jan 14, 2025

 :silly:

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #659 on: January 14, 2025, 03:25:15 pm »
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🚨 NEW photos from former LAPD West LA Division officer Rusty Redican taken on July 5, 2021 (yes, 3.5 years ago) at 9:15 AM show the Santa Ynez Reservoir. Redican and his partner were told that maintenance was being done at that time. It looks the same as it did in Nov 2024, when we know it was empty.

11:25 AM · Jan 14, 2025


 How long has the Santa Ynez reservoir been empty? Since 2011, as this tweet asks?

https://twitter.com/Farm1945A/status/1878131035608584329
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #660 on: January 14, 2025, 03:38:04 pm »
How long has the Santa Ynez reservoir been empty? Since 2011, as this tweet asks?

I'm assuming this feeds where the fires were? If so what an easy target for some opportunistic terrorists, enviro group, cartel...(insert here), and the $1T question, did any govt officials even have a whiff of prior knowledge?
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #661 on: January 14, 2025, 03:48:28 pm »
Amy Reichert
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The LA County Fire Chief just said at this morning’s news conference:
“We are asking our unhoused neighbors to not have warming fires right now.”
11:05 AM · Jan 14, 2025

Senator Gern Blanston
@GBlanston1967
Ask? They should be they WILL BE imprisoned if they start a "warming" fire.
Right now? So it's okay to start a fire as long as no wildfires are burning?
This state is hopeless. They people that run it are beyond stupid.
Fire this DEI lesbian now.
12:51 PM · Jan 14, 2025

Nils Grevillius
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Bums, derelicts, junkies, hypes, dings, hobos, vagabond, shitbums.  Is the truth so onerous an act....
1:56 PM · Jan 14, 2025
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Also from the clown show that is L.A. officialdom:

Amy Reichert
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Los Angeles County Public Health just announced:
“Please do not wear cloth or paper masks—they don’t filter out fine particles or ash."
🤡
11:31 AM · Jan 14, 2025

 :silly:

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #662 on: January 14, 2025, 04:45:19 pm »
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When California legislature passed bills to send Sacramento River water to southern California, Gruesome Newsome vetoed them in order to appeal to *environmentalists* and *save* the Delta smelt. ...

In the real world, US Fish and Wildlife Service and Federal courts mandated the water flows into the Sacramento-Dan Joaquin River Delta, https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/u-s-supreme-court-rejects-appeals-to-lift-plan-protecting-delta-smelt/ .

For extra credit, one can look at a map of California and learn a few relevant facts:

1. How many hundreds of miles separate the nearest part of the Sacramento River from LA.

2. How many scores of miles separate the closest San Joaquin River tributary from LA.

3. What >4000 feet mountains are between that tributary and LA.

I should not need to include this, but in real life I have always thought the Delta Smelt water flow restrictions stupid.
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« Reply #663 on: January 14, 2025, 05:50:03 pm »
Further concerning water in California, the existing California State Water Project currently captures 2.4 million acre-feet of water from the Northern California Feather and Sacramento Rivers. About 200 thousand acre-feet go to the SF Bay Area. The remaining 2.2 million acre-feet of water go south to coastal counties, San Joaquin Valley farmers, the Los Angeles area (pumped over the Tehachapis), and to the San Diego area.

Pressure to limit further water transfers from Northern California was coming years before the Enviros started yammering and decades before the moronic Delta Smelt restrictions from Northern California farmers concerned about their water rights, their way of life, being taken away to benefit the more populous (= majority in the legislature) Southern California. I heard some of these farmers' discussions back in the 1960s because my Dad was a farmer in Yolo County, NorCal. SoCal attitudes of entitlement exacerbated that NorCal opposition. As I posted above, look at a map of California to see from how far SoCal wants to capture and transfer more water.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #665 on: January 14, 2025, 08:07:27 pm »
Well Senator Johnson, fair enough. CDF failed to clear brush in Topanga State Park, despite LA requesting they do so.

Now do the aid adjustment that accounts for the Department of the Interior's failure to clear brush in Angeles National Forest, where the Eaton and Hurst Fires started. And maybe reform the pertinent agencies within Interior so that brush clearing projects that actually get done don't take 5 years to get approval, and more brush clearance projects actually gets done.
What I get out of this is the thought of returning federal lands back to the states wherein they reside.

Federal control is always problematic and the locals suffer the consequences of poor management.  If the state owned these lands, more accountability is certain instead of finger pointing.

I would love if Texas used its surplus with the continuing purchase of federal lands and deal them out of the equation.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #666 on: January 14, 2025, 08:08:47 pm »
Well Senator Johnson, fair enough. CDF failed to clear brush in Topanga State Park, despite LA requesting they do so.

Now do the aid adjustment that accounts for the Department of the Interior's failure to clear brush in Angeles National Forest, where the Eaton and Hurst Fires started. And maybe reform the pertinent agencies within Interior so that brush clearing projects that actually get done don't take 5 years to get approval, and more brush clearance projects actually gets done.

California fire victims should get the same payout as the victims in Western Carolina and East Palestine, OH got.
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #667 on: January 14, 2025, 08:13:49 pm »
I'm assuming this feeds where the fires were? If so what an easy target for some opportunistic terrorists, enviro group, cartel...(insert here), and the $1T question, did any govt officials even have a whiff of prior knowledge?
The gal that gets paid $750k per year to manage water resources for the county certainly must have been aware, but guess what?  Look at her Linkedin and nothing surfaces that water management is a priority for her.

It is renewables, environment, and of course equity, NOT water management.

See https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,550338.msg3123041.html#msg3123041
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« Reply #668 on: January 14, 2025, 08:14:03 pm »

Amy Reichert
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Los Angeles County Public Health just announced:
“Please do not wear cloth or paper masks—they don’t filter out fine particles or ash." 🤡
11:31 AM · Jan 14, 2025


But it will filter out fine particles or ashes that have Covid attached to them.
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« Reply #670 on: January 14, 2025, 08:53:53 pm »
   I smell a lot of Eminent Domain on the horizon, especially with the 2028 Olympics coming to LA.  It will be up to Trump whether he can cut the CA regulations and save these people lots or will noisome/bass build low income housing for the illegals, homeless?
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« Reply #671 on: January 15, 2025, 07:20:49 am »

 
Tearful LA fire union prez warned of dangerous fire department understaffing last year: ‘Someone will die’

A Los Angeles fire union president had warned the city about staffing shortfalls prior to the deadly fires that have ravaged the county for more than a week, according to a new interview.

Freddy Escobar, president of the United Firefighters of Los Angeles City, broke down during an interview with CNN where he described the dire warnings he gave to officials that went unheeded.
 
At a commission meeting just last month, Escobar told LA city officials that short staffing in the Los Angeles Fire Department was “dire” adding that “someone will die,” according to a CNN report.

“You’re not supposed to make me cry,” Escobar, a 35-year veteran of the LAFD, told to correspondent Kyung Lah, while wiping away a tear and walking away from the camera.

“This is a woefully understaffed fire department,” Escobar said. “We’re either going to have a fire department that’s going to reflect 2025, or we’re going to have a fire department that’s going to reflect the 1960s.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/public-safety-and-emergencies/fire-and-rescue/tearful-la-fire-union-prez-warned-of-dangerous-fire-department-understaffing-last-year-someone-will-die/ar-AA1xdh0T?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=4ec10eab5a6443c29f51a8bc755f5ffc&ei=28
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #672 on: January 15, 2025, 07:57:22 am »
How California eco-bureaucrats halted a Pacific Palisades fire safety project to save an endangered shrub
By Marc Morano
January 14, 2025
 
https://nypost.com/2025/01/14/us-news/california-bureaucrats-halted-pacific-palisades-fire-safety-project-to-save-endangered-shrub/

By Alex Oliveira
California’s eco-bureaucrats halted a wildfire prevention project near the Pacific Palisades to protect an endangered shrub.

It’s just the latest clash between fire safety and conservation in California that is coming under scrutiny following the devastating outbreak of the Palisades Fire — the most devastating blaze in Los Angeles history, which has consumed the very same area.

In 2019, the LA Department of Water and Power (LADWP) began replacing nearly 100-year-old power line poles cutting through Topanga State Park, when the project was halted within days by conservationists outraged that federally endangered Braunton’s milkvetch plants had been trampled during the process.

The goal of the project was to improve fire safety for the Pacific Palisades area by replacing the wooden poles with steel, widening fire-access lanes in the area, and installing wind- and fire-resistant power lines — all after the area was identified as having an “elevated fire risk,” according to the LA Times.

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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #673 on: January 15, 2025, 07:59:49 am »
To save the bush is going to likely cost 100s of billions of dollars in fire damage which likely consumed the bush anyway.   :shrug:
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Re: LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires
« Reply #674 on: January 15, 2025, 08:09:24 am »
I don't recall everything burning down in the 60's. In fact you would need fewer firemen if the state/fed did land management like they did in the 60's.