Republicans announce funding agreement, Thursday vote as shutdown looms

[Right_in_Virginia]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

Meaningless.  It changed nothing and he forfeited a chance to pocket a "you owe me one" for a future negotiation.

[deb]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

Must be nice to have a congress-critter who has both a spine and a conscience.
Our state elects swamp creatures. 

[Hoodat]

Meaningless.  It changed nothing and he forfeited a chance to pocket a "you owe me one" for a future negotiation.

Spoken like a true Swamp rat.

[Hoodat]

It was nice to see my congressman voted against it.

My former Congressman's name is also on that list.  My current one's name is not.  It sucks to seem him vote with Democrats on more spending.

[Hoodat]

This    is sophomoric, lacking even a rudimentary understanding that math matters.  Thirty-four members of the Freedom Caucus will never be the majority vote in the House of Representatives; obstructionist vote, yes, majority, no.

Not sure what 'math" has to do with the fact that thirty-four Freedom Caucus members decided to vote against the Swamp and the Democrats while you vociferously support them.  Another $110 billion added to the national debt.  Another $110 billion in handouts to illegals.

[Hoodat]

More of this.  $110 billion more of this.

https://twitter.com/jacobkschneider/status/1870162338470338700

[mountaineer]

Having principles and sticking to them is not meaningless.

[Right_in_Virginia]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence. 

[Bigun]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence.

Can you please explain to this good ole boy from Texas how continually voting FOR that which you despise is ever going to change anything? I'm having trouble grasping that concept. @Right_in_Virginia

[Hoodat]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless.

When one continues to give the Democrats everything they want while at the same time waving a Trump flag,it changes nothing.  Another $600 billion is being added to the debt.  And you and Chuck Schumer stant hand in hand cheering it on while denigrating Conservatives at the same time.

[mountaineer]

Brit Hume
@brithume
Lost in the uproar over the CR in the House is this: the House actually did pass at least half of the regular appropriations bills this year. Guess how many the Senate passed: 0. That's a big part of why we've ended once again with a CR. Is anyone blaming Chuck Schumer?
7:10 PM · Dec 20, 2024

[Hoodat]

Brit Hume
@brithume
Lost in the uproar over the CR in the House is this: the House actually did pass at least half of the regular appropriations bills this year. Guess how many the Senate passed: 0. That's a big part of why we've ended once again with a CR. Is anyone blaming Chuck Schumer?
7:10 PM · Dec 20, 2024

House Republicans should stop bailing Schumer out.  Yes, it's true that the House passed appropriations bills.  Yes, it's true that Schumer sat on them.  So don't make it OK by passing a CRvon the substance of those bills.  Force Schumer to act.

[bilo]

This    is sophomoric, lacking even a rudimentary understanding that math matters.  Thirty-four members of the Freedom Caucus will never be the majority vote in the House of Representatives; obstructionist vote, yes, majority, no.

I think what the Freedom Caucus lost sight of was each situation is different. Trump won big in the election. Trump outperformed almost all Pubs. It's time to stand behind Trump and support him. When the Freedom Caucus shot down the CR that eliminated the censorship agency in the State Dept. and the extension of the debt ceiling for two years all they did was help the Rats.

The CR that passed includes the censorship agency, keeps the debt ceiling in place for a March 2025 confrontation, gives the House a $75,000 raise, and excludes them from obamacare.

[bilo]

Having principles and sticking to them is not meaningless.

It's worse than meaningless if you lose a war because of it.

Let's see how the debt ceiling fight plays out and how it affects the economic plans Trump wants to pursue.

Also, lets see if we can get the censorship agency eliminated from the State Dept now that it's been funded for at least another year.

[bilo]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence.

 

From what I see Trump is our last chance to turn the country around. Trump wanted to form the battle field for his budget. The Establishment Loyalists want to block his plans using the debt ceiling as one of their early barriers. The Freedom Caucus played right into their hands, thats why the Rats were so eager to agree.

[bilo]

Can you please explain to this good ole boy from Texas how continually voting FOR that which you despise is ever going to change anything? I'm having trouble grasping that concept. @Right_in_Virginia

The debt ceiling was the critical issue. The secondary issue was the censorship agency.

[bilo]

When one continues to give the Democrats everything they want while at the same time waving a Trump flag,it changes nothing.  Another $600 billion is being added to the debt.  And you and Chuck Schumer stant hand in hand cheering it on while denigrating Conservatives at the same time.

You guys got played.

[Smokin Joe]

Juanita Broaddrick
@atensnut
>snip<

He cut the bill from 1500 pages to 120.

He eliminated the J6 Committee protection provision and cut out a state department agency associated with censorship.
5:33 PM · Dec 20, 2024
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I was more concerned with the censorship and j6 protection bits than the money.

After all, we can always print more money, right? (/sarc)

[Smokin Joe]

When one continues to change nothing, "sticking to principles" is, indeed, meaningless. Achieving results in the political arena demands more.

Without  purposeful compromise, strategic thinking and hard work, this "sticking" is merely tiresome virtue signaling.  We no longer have time for this indulgence.

Sticking to principles is never meaningless.

Sticking to principle just means you will be at the muster point when the others come to their senses.

What makes no sense is continuing to accept the little deviations, where they become normalized, and the foundation for even greater deviations from the original concept.

Those little deviations add up, and in the end, the results can be so far from what was originally intended, they become catastrophic.

This concept is evident in everything from flight/workplace safety to driving to government.

My swamp critter was not on the list.

[Hoodat]

The debt ceiling was the critical issue.

So placing a limit on the amount of debt this nation can run up is somehow blocking Trump from doing what he wants to do?  Interesting.

[Hoodat]

You guys got played.

We weren't the ones who just handed out tens of billions to illegals.  It's the American people who just got played.

[bigheadfred]

So placing a limit on the amount of debt this nation can run up is somehow blocking Trump from doing what he wants to do?  Interesting.

People are claiming he can't implement his tax policies without raising the debt limit. 

[Hoodat]

People are claiming he can't implement his tax policies without raising the debt limit. 

That's complete bullshit.  Tax )aws are not affected by spending limits.  The bottom line here is that Trump just sided himself with the Swamp.  Again.  And all his zealots know it.

[bilo]

I was more concerned with the censorship and j6 protection bits than the money.

After all, we can always print more money, right? (/sarc)

I didn't realize that about the censorship agency. It makes the CR a little better.

The money issue isn't going to get resolved with austerity. It's going to require growth, cuts in spending below the growth rate and more revenue. Trump would have been in a much better position if the debt ceiling wasn't an issue.

[Hoodat]

The money issue isn't going to get resolved with austerity. It's going to require growth, cuts in spending below the growth rate and more revenue.

We just added another $110 billion when we're supposed to be cutting?  Explain that one.  We don't have a revenue problem.  We have a spending problem.  No amount of growth is ever going to cover 25% of GDP.  At a maximum, taxes will bring in 19% of GDP.

Trump would have been in a much better position if the debt ceiling wasn't an issue.

Help me understand that.  How is removing limits on the amount of debt that can be run up going to put Trump in a better position towards reducing our debt?  There is nothing even remotely true about your statement.  That is unless Trump goal is to run up another $8 trillion in debt like he did last term.