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I am focused! The distinction is HUGHLY important in case you didn't already know that and I'm sick to death of every media outlet in the country's continual efforts to convince us that we are a democracy when nothing can be further from the truth! @catfish1957 

You don't think you can be two things at once though?

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You don't think you can be two things at once though?

No sir! I absolutely do not!

Some democratic principles and processes can be employed without turning a republic into a democracy. As our founders clearly did.
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How can the United States be a democracy when the President is chosen by the Electoral College, a college of representatives for the People and the States, and not by direct popular vote?

How can the United States be a demomcracy when it is their elected Representatives and Senators in Congress who write and vote upon legislation, and not the people directly?

I never got a chance to vote against the alleged Inflation Reduction Act.
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How can the United States be a democracy when the President is chosen by the Electoral College, a college of representatives for the People and the States, and not by direct popular vote?

How can the United States be a demomcracy when it is their elected Representatives and Senators in Congress who write and vote upon legislation, and not the people directly?

I never got a chance to vote against the alleged Inflation Reduction Act.

Well it's a representative democracy, you don't generally vote on the bills directly, you elect the people who vote on the bills, presumable because their beliefs are close to your's.

With the EC, each EC voting bloc (with a few exceptions, like NE and ME) is itself democratically elected, even if in the end result that can mean that the loser of the popular vote wins the whole thing.

Still democratically determined at it's most basic.

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Well it's a representative democracy, you don't generally vote on the bills directly, you elect the people who vote on the bills, presumable because their beliefs are close to your's.

With the EC, each EC voting bloc (with a few exceptions, like NE and ME) is itself democratically elected, even if in the end result that can mean that the loser of the popular vote wins the whole thing.

Still democratically determined at it's most basic.

Exactly.