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Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« on: November 30, 2024, 06:14:06 pm »
Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia

Hanna Ziady, CNN
Sat, November 30, 2024 at 12:31 PM CST

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky says he wants to work “directly” with US President-elect Donald Trump and is open to his ideas, highlighting Kyiv’s eagerness to keep its most important ally onside as Russia intensifies its attacks.

“Of course we will work with Trump. I want to work with him directly,” Zelensky said in an interview with Sky News released Friday, adding that he did not want people around Trump to “destroy” their communication. “I want to share with him ideas and I want to hear from him his ideas,” he added.

The United States is the single largest provider of military assistance to Ukraine and Kyiv is keenly aware that it needs to stay on Trump’s good side to secure future support. According to the US Department of State, the government has contributed $64.1 billion to Ukraine’s war effort since Russia launched its full-scale invasion in February 2022.

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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2024, 06:42:51 pm »
Bring the price of oil back down to $30/bbl, and this war ends in a week.
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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2024, 07:17:47 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 30, 2024, 06:42:51 pm
Bring the price of oil back down to $30/bbl, and this war ends in a week.
Right along with our domestic oil industry.
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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2024, 07:18:35 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 30, 2024, 07:17:47 pm
Right along with our domestic oil industry.

Well, there are tradeoffs.  Just sayin'.
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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2024, 07:31:29 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 30, 2024, 07:18:35 pm
Well, there are tradeoffs.  Just sayin'.
While the Donbas contains 87% of the Ukrainian oil production (or did pre-war), that is only a small part of the resources there, ranging from coal, iron Uranium, and a lot of the higher tech manufacturing and steel production.
Russia invaded for resources rather than explore for and develop its own.
The possibility of controlling access to the Black Sea was a bonus, and would have given the Russians the offshore drilling rights, too, not just control of whatever grain, etc. was shipped in or out.
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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2024, 07:39:35 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on November 30, 2024, 07:31:29 pm
While the Donbas contains 87% of the Ukrainian oil production (or did pre-war), that is only a small part of the resources there, ranging from coal, iron Uranium, and a lot of the higher tech manufacturing and steel production.
Russia invaded for resources rather than explore for and develop its own.
The possibility of controlling access to the Black Sea was a bonus, and would have given the Russians the offshore drilling rights, too, not just control of whatever grain, etc. was shipped in or out.

Spot on correct.  Putin wanted Ukraine for its natural resources, especially natural gas, so that he could establish energy hegemony over Europe.  And he also wanted unfettered control of the Black Sea, which hasn't worked out so well for him, considering that a large portion of Russia's Black Sea Fleet is now sunk, or pulled back to Novorossiysk, further to the East.
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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2024, 07:41:10 pm »
My point is that high oil prices are financing Russia's war.  Drop the price, and their army goes bankrupt.
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Re: Zelensky wants to ‘work directly’ with Trump on ending Ukraine’s war with Russia
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2024, 08:10:43 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on November 30, 2024, 07:41:10 pm
My point is that high oil prices are financing Russia's war.  Drop the price, and their army goes bankrupt.
Who is buying Russian oil? China? North Korea?

Keep the price up and export our surplus. Take their market away.
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