EV Sales Break Records Again 3rd Quarter 2024 10% market share within reach

[catfish1957]

Please stop tagging me to your posts. I'm not interested.

What kind of stupid SOB plays Font Routlette trying to push his lies across. His last post is like a 9 year old discovered the Font function on his forum, and has gone ape shit with it,    No one is buying his garbage.

This left wing troll really needs to return to his base for convincing his own idelology, because Kamel-uh's support is crumbling by the day. Stein, especially in Michigan is making a lot of daily headway into the rank and file left loony electorate. 

No regular  here at TBR would remotely consider  voting for this bitch.  He'd have a more productive use of his time picking his nose.

[catfish1957]

Sure it is.


Again, no.  It is not.  A sale involves transfer of ownership from Party A (seller) to Party B (buyer).  With a lease, Party A retains ownership of the product.  There is no sale.  This is basic economics, which for some reason is completely foreign to you, @banddag

Hmmm..  The point where buyer's remorse occurs (and there will be a lot of that), much favors a leasee. than an owner.  If Beandoggle is too dumb to realize that, then I think his so called financial accumen he touts  should seriously be questioned.

[Hoodat]

The cost of lithium — a metal used to make electric car batteries — is up nearly 500% since last year: 'Supply is simply nowhere near enough to feed this demand surge'
theblaze.com ^ | 3/22/2022 | Phil Shiver

Again, you display an uncanny ignorance on matters of economics.  Supply is meeting demand.  There is no shortage.  When prices increase 500%, it means that the price adjusted to a new equilibrium point where supply meets demand.  Again, basic economics.

But then the only reason you bring this up is because you refuse to consider hydrogen tanks built from cheap composites that do not require any metals in their manufacture.  But then we all knew that already.  Your unwavering allegiance to a failed method (which has negatives that far outweigh the positives) is a case study for everyone here on liberal idiocy.  I actually use your posts to educate my son on how much it costs society when people make decisions based on emotion while rejecting any  semblance of reason, critical thought, economic fact, or basic human nature in general.

For you, it is a rather simple exercise.  Simply list the pros and cons of three vehicle types - gasoline powered ICE, battery powered EV, and hydrogen powered EV.  Remove all subsidies out of the equation.  Make your lists, and then tell us which option works best for you and why.  And then afterwards, have the consideration to realize that our lists may not be the same as yours, @banddag

[Timber Rattler]

All the problems with Ev's are being fixed.

Rigggght....

4 killed in fiery electric vehicle crash in downtown Toronto

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fatal-crash-four-dead-lake-shore-cherry-1.7361751

Four people were killed in a fiery single-vehicle crash in downtown Toronto early Thursday, while the lone survivor was pulled from the burning car by a passing driver, police say.

The deadly collision happened around 12:10 a.m. on Lake Shore Boulevard E. near Cherry Street.

A Tesla with three men and two women inside was speeding eastbound on Lake Shore when the driver lost control and hit a guardrail, said Toronto police Duty Insp. Phillip Sinclair. The car then careened into a concrete pillar.

"Upon impact, the vehicle then caught fire," Sinclair told reporters.

When firefighters arrived on scene, the car was fully engulfed in flames, said Deputy Fire Chief Jim Jessop, who spoke alongside Sinclair.

Once the blaze was extinguished, firefighters found four people inside the vehicle. All four were pronounced dead at the scene, Sinclair said. They were in their 20s and 30s, he said, but could not provide any more specific information about the deceased.

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[catfish1957]

Can't seem to find an article I saw recently of what the costs of heavier EV's are going to do to our highway infrastructure.

Anyone have a copy?

[catfish1957]

[Timber Rattler]

Can't seem to find an article I saw recently of what the costs of heavier EV's are going to do to our highway infrastructure.

Anyone have a copy?

Ask, and ye shall receive!

Experts warn electric vehicle weight threatens road safety and infrastructure

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/feb/12/experts-warn-electric-vehicle-weight-threatens-roa/#:~:text=Heavy%20electric%20vehicles%20damage%20roads,powered%20cars%2C%20pedestrians%20and%20bicyclists.

Electric vehicles raise concerns about whether safety infrastructure can handle their weight in a crash

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-vehicles-safety-infrastructure-barriers/

[catfish1957]

Ask, and ye shall receive!

Experts warn electric vehicle weight threatens road safety and infrastructure

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/feb/12/experts-warn-electric-vehicle-weight-threatens-roa/#:~:text=Heavy%20electric%20vehicles%20damage%20roads,powered%20cars%2C%20pedestrians%20and%20bicyclists.

Electric vehicles raise concerns about whether safety infrastructure can handle their weight in a crash

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-vehicles-safety-infrastructure-barriers/

Thanks...   

Can't wait for Beandoggle to call CBS News a "W(h)acko RW web site"

[banddag]

Really?  So EV's now have the same range as gasoline vehicles during winter in Minnesota?  I think not.  I think you are lying about problems being fixed.

.  So keep lobbying for the Chinese battery industry.

1. Where did I say that about Minnesota?  The Ev issues are being adressed. as time goes on. ICE cars had huge issues people had when they first came out-gasoline rare in rural areas, no one to repair them in many locals, impassible roads only horses could travel.

For instance, Siemens came out with a new home charger that by passes the homes  service box so service box  does not have to be replaced at great cost

2. Nearly all EV batteries for US cars are made in the US not China

Most electric vehicle (EV) batteries in the US are made in a region known as the Battery Belt, which spans from Michigan to the Carolinas. The states with the most announced battery production capacity include:
•   Michigan: 140 gigawatt hours per year
•   Georgia: 136 gigawatt hours per year
•   Tennessee: 128 gigawatt hours per year
•   Kentucky: 119 gigawatt hours per year
•   Indiana: 97 gigawatt hours per year
The Battery Belt is the result of significant funding for battery manufacturing in the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) of 2022. Some companies that have announced investments in the Battery Belt include:
•   Freyr: A Norwegian company that plans to build a second factory south of Atlanta
•   SK: A South Korean battery corporation that is planning to build a $5 billion factory in northern Georgia in partnership with Hyundai
•   BMW: Announced a $1.7 billion investment in the US, including $700 million for a battery assembly facility in Woodruff, South Carolina




Ev sales stagnat?   Every quarter ev sales break records beating out the previous quarter.

https://insideevs.com/news/737158/us-ev-sales-q3-2024/

[banddag]

Rigggght....

4 killed in fiery electric vehicle crash in downtown Toronto

As if there was never an ICE vehicle crash that did not end up in fire killing people.

@Timber Rattler

[banddag]

Ask, and ye shall receive!

Experts warn electric vehicle weight threatens road safety and infrastructure

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/feb/12/experts-warn-electric-vehicle-weight-threatens-roa/#:~:text=Heavy%20electric%20vehicles%20damage%20roads,powered%20cars%2C%20pedestrians%20and%20bicyclists.

Electric vehicles raise concerns about whether safety infrastructure can handle their weight in a crash

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/electric-vehicles-safety-infrastructure-barriers/

Manufacturers are working on making EV's lighter.  The first computers took up nearly an entire building. Now they come as small as a wristwatch.

Yes, future electric vehicles (EVs) will weigh less due to advancements in battery technology and other design considerations:
Solid-state batteries
These batteries are smaller and lighter than traditional lithium-ion batteries, and they can charge faster. Solid-state batteries also have a higher energy density, which means they can power vehicles for longer without adding weight.
Lightweighting
The practice of designing cars to be lighter for better fuel efficiency has been used for internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles, and it will also be applied to EVs.
Smaller, more affordable models
Car manufacturers are moving toward smaller, more affordable EVs to reduce production costs and make EVs more accessible to a wider range of consumers.
The average weight of EVs will decrease as carmakers focus on these design considerations.

@Timber Rattler

[Smokin Joe]

Hurry up and get them before the subsidies run out!

Even Elon Musk can't see that as justifiable.

[banddag]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2024/04/21/electric-vehicles-not-guilty-of-excess-short-term-fire-risk-charges/#:~:text=A%20report%20from%20AutoinsuranceEX%20said,every%20210%20million%20miles%20travelled.

A report from AutoinsuranceEX said EVs exhibited 61 times fewer fires per 100,000 sales than ICE vehicles.

“Tesla has reported that between 2012 and 2021 there was approximately one Tesla vehicle fire for every 210 million miles travelled.

@catfish1957

[banddag]

Hurry up and get them before the subsidies run out!

Even Elon Musk can't see that as justifiable.

Musk has given so far $75 million dollars to the Trump campaign. If you think Trump is going to take away subsidies or hurt the EV industry in any way you are an idiot.


BTW:

If Trump gets in he is also going to ban assault rifles since he was almost taken out by two of them. You watch. The guy is a NY anti gun liberal.

[Smokin Joe]

Musk has given so far $75 million dollars to the Trump campaign. If you think Trump is going to take away subsidies or hurt the EV industry in any way you are an idiot.


BTW:

If Trump gets in he is also going to ban assault rifles since he was almost taken out by two of them. You watch. The guy is a NY anti gun liberal.

Well, Maybe I'm an idiot then.

YOU tell me how it is an efficient use of taxpayer dollars to subsidize the EV industry at the expense of people who rely on vehicles that use different and reliable technologies.

Where I live (low temp last night 26 above) EVs will be deathtraps for the next six months, and no, charging stations aren't springing up like weeds here, either. They are summer toys, too low to the ground, have too little range (especially running the heater and keeping the windows clear of frost), and just not designed for rural roads in North Dakota's winter.

I would not bet my life on one, and those are the stakes here.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

All the problems with Ev's are being fixed.

Charging stations going up everwhere, longer range, quicker charging times, more selection, ev's dropping in price.

@Hoodat

You have lost any credibility whatsoever with that statement, as even the manufacturers of EVs would refute, that is, except EVs going down in price as they are stacking up on lots and cannot unload them otherwise.

[catfish1957]

Well, Maybe I'm an idiot then.

YOU tell me how it is an efficient use of taxpayer dollars to subsidize the EV industry at the expense of people who rely on vehicles that use different and reliable technologies.

Where I live (low temp last night 26 above) EVs will be deathtraps for the next six months, and no, charging stations aren't springing up like weeds here, either. They are summer toys, too low to the ground, have too little range (especially running the heater and keeping the windows clear of frost), and just not designed for rural roads in North Dakota's winter.

I would not bet my life on one, and those are the stakes here.

Forget reality, reason and logic.  This Left loon is on a mission,.......

[Smokin Joe]

Forget reality, reason and logic.  This Left loon is on a mission,.......

I wonder how much posting that crap pays?

I could use a lucrative part time job.

[Bigun]

Public Service Announcement!

Never argue with an idiot! It's like trying to teach a pig to sing.

[banddag]

You have lost any credibility whatsoever with that statement, as even the manufacturers of EVs would refute, that is, except EVs going down in price as they are stacking up on lots and cannot unload them otherwise.

Why each quarter are EV sales breaking records?

1000 ev chargers are coming online every week in the US.  I live in a rural area and 1/4 the gas stations now have ev chargers. Hotels, banks, restaurants, malls, apartment complexes are installing them as it attracts business. Shop while your car is charging.

https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/investing-america-number-publicly-available-electric-vehicle-chargers-has-doubled#:~:text=Since%20the%20start%20of%20the,chargers%20being%20added%20each%20week.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-06/tesla-helped-spur-a-long-range-electric-vehicle-boom

The Long-Range EV Boom Has Arrived
Electric car options with more than 300 miles per charge have quintupled in the US since 2021. It’s pushing the country’s average battery range to record highs.

I could go on and on but your mind is alrewady made up due to partisanship and politics.

@IsailedawayfromFR

[Hoodat]

Ev sales stagnat?   Every quarter ev sales break records beating out the previous quarter.

https://insideevs.com/news/737158/us-ev-sales-q3-2024/

If EV sales weren't stagnant, then there would be no reason to subsidize them.  The fact that subsidies exist demonstrates that EV demand is nowhere near where you wish it were. Human nature trumps your own personal emotional need.

[banddag]

YOU tell me how it is an efficient use of taxpayer dollars to subsidize the EV industry at the expense of people who rely on vehicles that use different and reliable technologies.

You do know the ag indsutry has been subsidized for the last 80 years as well as nearly all indsutries in the US. Where did ingtell get the money to build the new chip planr inOhio. The $52 billion dollar chip act.

Ev's are the future. batteries are the future. We are subsidizinf these co's because China, Vietnam, S Korera is heavily subsidizing eheir own ev industry and if we do not it will put us behind.

@Smokin Joe

[Hoodat]

Why each quarter are EV sales breaking records?

Breaking records?  lol.  EV sales are up because we taxpayers (at the point of a gun) are dishing out $7,500 per so that some well-off liberal doesn't have to pay market price for an EV.  Yet even with that, sales are falling for many brands.  Rivian sales?  Down.  Tesla car sales?  Down.  Hyundai?  Down.  Ford?  Down.  Yet you choose to lump in projected Chevy and Honda sales for 2024 into your totals that were not included in 2023 data in order to fudge your numbers.  Maybe you should have actually investigated your source material before posting it.

[banddag]

If EV sales weren't stagnant, then there would be no reason to subsidize them.  The fact that subsidies exist demonstrates that EV demand is nowhere near where you wish it were. Human nature trumps your own personal emotional need.

Why is ag subsidized, why are chips subsidized, why is nearly everything subsidized in the US?
Hint: other countries are heavily subsidizing their own industries and it will put our us companies at a disadvantage but you know that.


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@Hoodat

[Hoodat]

You do know the ag indsutry has been subsidized for the last 80 years as well as nearly all indsutries in the US.

You do know that we oppose government subsidies for every US industry.  This isn't the first time this has been pointed out to you either.  Yet here you are again showing what a complete fool you are by implying that we should be supporting battery and EV subsidies because government pays farmers not to grow food.  Sheer idiocy.  And dishonest idiocy at that.