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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #775 on: December 18, 2024, 03:42:12 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #776 on: December 18, 2024, 03:53:07 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #778 on: December 18, 2024, 04:20:54 pm »
The difference in warfighting tactics between America vs. Ukraine and Israel could not be more obvious.
Ukraine and Israel fight war to kill people and win. America fights war with the goal of fighting to a tie.

America wants to fight a war but they do not want to actually hurt anybody. And they want to be friends with the people they are fighting when the war concludes. This is because America itself is never in any danger. Because the wars are always thousands of miles away, war becomes detached by American leaders. War becomes an exercise in theory vs. reality.

Ukraine and Israel have no such leisurely luxury. If Ukraine loses, they lose their entire country. If Israel loses, they would be slaughtered by the Islamists. Neither of them has the convenience to "play nice" or to "take it easy" as America demands. And neither one has the stupid childishly naïve goal to be "friends" when the dust settles.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #779 on: December 18, 2024, 05:03:41 pm »
Great point.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #780 on: December 18, 2024, 10:27:14 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #781 on: December 18, 2024, 10:28:27 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #782 on: December 18, 2024, 10:29:34 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #784 on: December 18, 2024, 10:33:38 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #786 on: December 18, 2024, 10:47:08 pm »
Tactics of the North Koreans in Kursk: A Failed Effort with Heavy Losses

Daniel Kosoy  |  Dec 17, 2024  |  18:06


The presence of North Korean troops fighting against Ukraine marks a significant escalation in Russia’s war and a dangerous shift toward global involvement. With Ukrainian forces maintaining a strong position following their surprise August 2022 offensive into the Kursk region, Russia turned to its ally, North Korea, to fill its depleted ranks.

Despite initial estimates of up to 30,000 North Korean soldiers being sent to bolster Russian forces, the first clear evidence of their involvement surfaced in December 2024, revealing their heavy losses in combat.

A Ukrainian reconnaissance drone unit known as Maydar’s Birds released footage on December 15, showing the aftermath of a failed assault. The video, shared by unit commander Robert Brovdi, displayed twenty-two bodies lying in the snow—many confirmed to be North Korean troops.

The grim visuals, combined with intercepted communications and Ukrainian intelligence reports, leave little doubt about their presence in Kursk.  .  .

https://united24media.com/war-in-ukraine/tactics-of-the-north-koreans-in-kursk-a-failed-effort-with-heavy-losses-4526
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #788 on: December 18, 2024, 11:04:27 pm »
North Korea Earns Billions Through Arms Deals and Troop Deployments to Russia

Amira Barkhush  |  Dec 18, 2024  |  13:17


North Korea is reportedly receiving financial support, diplomatic leverage, oil, and food for sending its troops to fight against Ukraine, The New York Times reports.

According to Olena Guseinova, a researcher at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies in Seoul, North Korea has generated up to $5.5 billion through arms deals with Russia.

In an October report, she also estimated that the deployment of troops could bring North Korea up to $572 million annually—a significant figure by the country's standards. For comparison, North Korea's official exports totaled only $330 million last year.  .  .  .

https://united24media.com/latest-news/north-korea-earns-billions-through-arms-deals-and-troop-deployments-to-russia-4543

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #789 on: December 18, 2024, 11:07:53 pm »
Russian army conducts 5 assaults on Kupiansk axis

Karina Bondar - 18 December 2024 | 12:57


UKRAINE, KHARKIV OBLAST, Dec 18 –  In the Kupiansk direction, the Russian army conducted five attacks over the past day. Ukrainian forces repelled attacks near Petropavlivka and Lozova, reported the General Staff.

One of the main goals of the Russian full-scale war is to capture the remainder of occupied Luhansk and Donetsk Oblast; their operations on the Kupiansk-Svatove-Kreminna line are dedicated to that. From this section of the frontline, they also aim to push into Kharkiv Oblast and re-occupy Kupiansk and Kupiansk-Vuzlovyi, important logistics hubs for the region.

In the Kharkiv direction, Russian troops unsuccessfully stormed Ukrainian positions near Vovchansk four times and used attack aircraft.

Russia launched one missile attack, 51 airstrikes, dropping 75 glide bombs (KABs) on positions of Ukrainian troops and on cities and villages in the Kharkiv region over the past day. Russians fired over 4,300 times at Ukrainian forces, including 89 times with multiple launch rocket systems.  .  .

https://gwaramedia.com/en/general-staff-russian-army-conducts-5-assaults-on-kupiansk-axis-2/
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #790 on: December 19, 2024, 07:22:43 am »
Pretty clear that the Russian generals have given up any semblance of "operational art," as the Soviets use to call it, and are just engaging in Wagner-style battering ram/human wave attacks, with the Norks providing the latest cannon fodder.

It's sickening.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #791 on: December 19, 2024, 10:12:04 am »
Russian army conducts 5 assaults on Kupiansk axis

Karina Bondar - 18 December 2024 | 12:57


UKRAINE, KHARKIV OBLAST, Dec 18 –  In the Kupiansk direction, the Russian army conducted five attacks over the past day. Ukrainian forces repelled attacks near Petropavlivka and Lozova, reported the General Staff.

One of the main goals of the Russian full-scale war is to capture the remainder of occupied Luhansk and Donetsk Oblast; their operations on the Kupiansk-Svatove-Kreminna line are dedicated to that. From this section of the frontline, they also aim to push into Kharkiv Oblast and re-occupy Kupiansk and Kupiansk-Vuzlovyi, important logistics hubs for the region.

In the Kharkiv direction, Russian troops unsuccessfully stormed Ukrainian positions near Vovchansk four times and used attack aircraft.

Russia launched one missile attack, 51 airstrikes, dropping 75 glide bombs (KABs) on positions of Ukrainian troops and on cities and villages in the Kharkiv region over the past day. Russians fired over 4,300 times at Ukrainian forces, including 89 times with multiple launch rocket systems.  .  .

https://gwaramedia.com/en/general-staff-russian-army-conducts-5-assaults-on-kupiansk-axis-2/
"...51 airstrikes, dropping 75 glide bombs (KABs) on positions of Ukrainian troops and on cities and villages in the Kharkiv region over the past day."
Spitting in the wind, but any and all Russians or their allies, involved in attacking civilian areas need to be held accountable for war crimes/crimes against humanity. There needs to be another Nuremberg with the gallows working overtime. Those are the ones I can agree are "orcs".
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #792 on: December 20, 2024, 03:31:37 am »
Thanks @Hoodat for the updates... Grim watching... but I do it.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #793 on: December 20, 2024, 01:38:21 pm »
Russia knows Trump is coming soon, and he will attempt to force a peace, I suspect giving Russia lands that they have seized.  Trump will threaten ending the military supply to Ukraine.  Frankly, I think Russia is on the verge of collapse economically from everything I have read, so I say continue to pour it on.

In fact, I think Trump should squeeze China hard on curbing trade altogether unless they end trade with Russia, stopping oil out of Russia completely.  Putin is the single greatest evil that exists on the planet, and it is time nations unite against them economically.

This is the most nonsensical war in a long time.  Ukraine has a right to their own sovereignty.

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #794 on: December 20, 2024, 02:49:50 pm »
Russia knows Trump is coming soon, and he will attempt to force a peace, I suspect giving Russia lands that they have seized.  Trump will threaten ending the military supply to Ukraine.  Frankly, I think Russia is on the verge of collapse economically from everything I have read, so I say continue to pour it on.

In fact, I think Trump should squeeze China hard on curbing trade altogether unless they end trade with Russia, stopping oil out of Russia completely.  Putin is the single greatest evil that exists on the planet, and it is time nations unite against them economically.

This is the most nonsensical war in a long time.  Ukraine has a right to their own sovereignty.

If Russia gets to keep what they took from Ukraine then Ukraine gets to keep what they took from Russia.  wink777
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #795 on: December 20, 2024, 05:42:42 pm »
Exclusive: US to announce final package of new arms for Ukraine in coming days

The Biden administration will announce in the coming days its final Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative package, using up the remaining funds set aside to buy new weapons for Ukraine, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
The package includes air defense interceptors and artillery munitions, according to a third source, but the exact contents are expected when the package is announced in the coming days. The package will be worth about $1.2 billion, said the sources.
Under USAI, military equipment is procured from the defense industry or partners, rather than drawn from American stocks, meaning it can take months or years to arrive on the battlefield.
The USAI package could be among the last steps the United States takes to provide direct military support to Ukraine as Kyiv braces for the return of President-elect Donald Trump, who has publicly questioned military aid and vowed to end the Ukraine war within 24 hours of taking office on Jan. 20.
Since Russia's invasion of its neighbor in February 2022, the United States has committed $175 billion in aid for Ukraine, including approximately $61.4 billion in security assistance.
About half of that security assistance has come through the USAI program, and the rest has gone toward pulling from existing military stocks via presidential drawdown authority.
There is $5.6 billion remaining of presidential drawdown authority.
The State Department and Pentagon declined to comment on the upcoming announcement, saying they do not discuss security assistance packages before they are officially revealed.
The USAI program has been a boon for U.S. defense contractors, who have been able to book orders for newly manufactured weapons and establish new revenue streams.
One example is the L3Harris Technologies (LHX.N)
, opens new tab VAMPIRE system. The Vehicle-Agnostic Modular Palletized ISR Rocket Equipment counter-drone system received its first USAI-funded order in August 2022.
L3Harris delivered its first four units within 12 months. The company has seen increased interest in the system, and has subsequently had multiple orders placed through the USAI program.
As the Biden administration prepares to unveil details of the final USAI package, questions remain about how and whether the United States will continue to assist its ally in the absence of dedicated USAI funding.......................

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-announce-final-package-new-arms-ukraine-coming-days-sources-say-2024-12-20/

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #796 on: December 20, 2024, 06:24:26 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #797 on: December 20, 2024, 06:50:33 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #798 on: December 20, 2024, 06:52:18 pm »
If Russia gets to keep what they took from Ukraine then Ukraine gets to keep what they took from Russia.  wink777

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #799 on: December 20, 2024, 08:40:49 pm »
Hey gang, @SpeedyInTexas and @Canuck Conservative have joined TBR today and are in the house!  Welcome to our own Ukraine thread, guys!

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