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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #750 on: December 16, 2024, 01:24:21 am »
Russian tanker sinks in Black Sea spilling 4,300 tonnes of oil

Ukraine accuses Moscow of recklessness due to risk of ecological damage as second tanker runs aground

Luke Harding  |  Sun 15 Dec 2024  |  19.30 EST


A Russian tanker carrying more than 4,000 tonnes of oil products has sunk in the Black Sea amid stormy conditions while a second has run aground, threatening an ecological disaster.

The cargo ship Volgoneft-212 snapped in half on Sunday after being hit by a large wave. Video showed its bow end sticking vertically out of the water. The boat got into difficulties off the east coast of occupied Crimea, 5 miles (8km) from the Kerch strait, Russian media reported.

Russian investigators opened two criminal cases to look into possible safety violations after at least one person was killed when the 136-metre tanker, which had 15 people on board, went down.

The tanker was carrying 4,300 tonnes of low-grade heavy fuel oil, known as mazut. Russia’s emergency service launched a rescue operation involving tugboats and a Mil Mi-8 helicopter. Twelve other people were evacuated, eleven of whom were taken to hospital, with two in a serious condition, the Tass news agency quoted Alexei Kuznetsov, an aide to the health minister, as saying.

Shortly afterwards, another cargo transporter, the Volgoneft-239, got into difficulties in the same area. It was carrying 4 tonnes of fuel oil. Initial reports also suggested the ship had sunk. “Another ship is going down. Holy shit!” a sailor said, filming from a nearby boat. . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/15/two-russian-tankers-sink-in-black-sea-spilling-oil
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #753 on: December 16, 2024, 01:29:28 am »
Report on North Korean attacks near Plekhovo:



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« Reply #754 on: December 16, 2024, 01:33:06 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #758 on: December 16, 2024, 10:04:46 am »
WRT the sunken/sinking tankers:

How to Sink Two Oil Tankers With This 1 Weird Trick

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2024/12/16/how-to-sink-two-oil-tankers-with-this-1-weird-trick-n4935159

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Before going any further into today's tales of wartime absurdities, let me ask you this question: "What happens when you take a riverboat out to sea?"

"Probably nothing good" is the safe answer, even for people who don't know much about boating. But you've probably heard the phrase "rough seas," and I'm sure you've never heard the phrase "rough rivers" because those aren't a thing. Seagoing vessels are designed with rough seas in mind. Rivergoing boats aren't.

"So, yeah, certainly nothing good."

Now let's say you put two riverboats to sea, and each one is more than 50 years old.

This time, you should answer, "You have got to be kidding me."

Now, fill each of them with 4,000 tons or so of oil.
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Apparently, however, in late 2024, Russia's supply situation is dire enough that they thought it was worth the risk to send two riverine oil tankers into the Black Sea. This is the sad (and probably predictable) result:

Unrelated yet of similar effect:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvE0Mep2QPg

Between the sunken tankers and the destroyed fuel train, that's a lot of fuel that won't be in Russian tanks, IFVs, self-propelled guns, and logistics trucks in Zaporizhya.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #759 on: December 16, 2024, 05:28:17 pm »
The good news here is that Russia is being forced to use river boats because sea going vessels from other countries are not willing to stop in Russian ports.
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« Reply #760 on: December 16, 2024, 10:59:00 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #762 on: December 17, 2024, 12:19:15 pm »
Sinking a bulk carrier, loaded with underwater cement, in a shipping channel would be quite an inconvenience for Putin.
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« Reply #763 on: December 17, 2024, 12:20:24 pm »
General killed in Moscow a legitimate target, says Ukraine

Amy Walker & Christy Cooney  |  2 hrs ago


A high-ranking general in the Russian armed forces and his assistant have been killed in Moscow by Ukraine's security service, a Ukrainian source has told the BBC.

Lt Gen Igor Kirillov, head of the Nuclear, Biological, Chemical Defence Forces (NBC), was outside a residential block early on Tuesday when a device hidden in a scooter was detonated remotely, Russia's Investigative Committee (SK) said.

A source in Ukraine's SBU security service claimed Kirillov was "a legitimate target" and alleging he had carried out war crimes.

On Monday, the SBU charged Kirillov, 54, in absentia, saying on Telegram that he was "responsible for the mass use of banned chemical weapons".  .  .

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2ek388yxzo
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #764 on: December 17, 2024, 12:21:08 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #765 on: December 17, 2024, 12:35:46 pm »
Evidently, Russia's fleet of ocean-going tankers is so small/depleted that they are using riverine tankers. Using ships designed for the stresses of river operation out at sea is working poorly.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #767 on: December 17, 2024, 02:20:39 pm »
General killed in Moscow a legitimate target, says Ukraine

Amy Walker & Christy Cooney  |  2 hrs ago


A high-ranking general in the Russian armed forces and his assistant have been killed in Moscow by Ukraine's security service, a Ukrainian source has told the BBC.

Lt Gen Igor Kirillov, head of the Nuclear, Biological, Chemical Defence Forces (NBC), was outside a residential block early on Tuesday when a device hidden in a scooter was detonated remotely, Russia's Investigative Committee (SK) said.

A source in Ukraine's SBU security service claimed Kirillov was "a legitimate target" and alleging he had carried out war crimes.

On Monday, the SBU charged Kirillov, 54, in absentia, saying on Telegram that he was "responsible for the mass use of banned chemical weapons".  .  .

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2ek388yxzo

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #768 on: December 17, 2024, 04:59:05 pm »
Just don't call this poison-gasser an "Orc", mkay?
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #769 on: December 17, 2024, 05:59:28 pm »

Ukraine supplied Syrian rebels with drones and operators for the offensive that toppled Assad last week: report

Business Insider
Thibault Spirlet
Dec 11, 2024

  • Ukraine sent drones and drone operators to Syrian rebel forces, The Washington Post reported.
  • Groups led by Hayat Tahrir al-Sham overthrew Bashar Assad's decades-old rule on Sunday.
  • The Ukrainian aid played a modest role in toppling him, Western intel sources told the outlet.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-sent-drones-operators-syria-rebels-used-topple-assad-report-2024-12

Biden supplies Ukraine ... Ukraine supplies the Syrian rebels. And the wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round ...
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #770 on: December 17, 2024, 06:14:28 pm »
Ukraine designs and manufactures many/most of their own drones.
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Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #771 on: December 17, 2024, 06:16:20 pm »
Just don't call this poison-gasser an "Orc", mkay?

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #772 on: December 18, 2024, 11:44:54 am »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #773 on: December 18, 2024, 03:36:28 pm »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #774 on: December 18, 2024, 03:40:31 pm »
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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