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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #750 on: December 08, 2024, 08:51:18 am »
The FEMA director, Deanne Criswell, is an evil lying bitch and should have been fired months ago.
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« Reply #751 on: December 08, 2024, 09:05:01 am »
The FEMA director, Deanne Criswell, is an evil lying bitch and should have been fired months ago.
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #752 on: December 10, 2024, 10:50:19 am »
Samaritan's Purse has now publicly denied FEMA's claims that, "people in tents is misinformation..."

https://twitter.com/matt_vanswol/status/1865461544718385284
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« Reply #753 on: December 10, 2024, 01:26:27 pm »
The very first thing that needs to happen to FEMA Jan 21 is flush of anyone that had anything to do with the incompetent responses to disasters the last four years and any partisan hacks. FEMA should only have one interest and job and that isn’t politics.

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #754 on: December 10, 2024, 06:57:47 pm »
   Miss this guy, he could get FEMA doing $hit.



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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #755 on: December 11, 2024, 05:05:06 am »
Honoré is still around...he's heavily involved in Louisiana environmental issues.  He's a big lib but a very tough one still.


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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #756 on: December 14, 2024, 04:48:28 pm »
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FEMA seems to be very confused about why so many #WNC business owners are closing up shop forever.

Let me explain:

a) You own a coffee shop along a small creek in Black Mountain NC, it's a local favorite.
b) Helene causes the creek to rise 21 feet and it washes away all your equipment and your building caves in.
c) You call insurance, they deny you. You didn't have flood insurance because you live 2,300ft above sea level.
d) You submit a claim to FEMA. You are instantly rejected and told call the Small Business Administration.
e) You call the Small Business Administration, they say, "hey sorry, we ran out of money October 3rd, maybe FEMA can help?"
f) You call FEMA back and they don't answer the phone for 11 days.
g) Finally you email your contact at FEMA telling them what the SBA told you.
h) FEMA says, "Sorry wish we could help you, but we don't handle business stuff!"
i) You say, "Ok, but my business is gone, my house is in ruins, I've got 3 kids to provide for... what do I do?"
j) FEMA goes, "Wait a minute, I'm seeing here that your business is in a floodplain... tell you what, we can't help you rebuild your business, but we will buy it from you."
k) You stare at your phone stunned, "Wait, you have enough money to BUY my business but you won't help me rebuild it?"
l) FEMA goes, "Yes, that's correct. We will buy from it, but we will not help you rebuild it."
m) You say, "That's insane though, if you have the money to buy it, why won't you help me rebuild it?"
n) FEMA goes, "Those are the rules, sorry. If you want a loan to rebuild call the SBA, but it sounds like they are out of money."

That's why business owners are pissed at FEMA.

3:15 PM · Dec 14, 2024
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #757 on: December 14, 2024, 05:44:39 pm »
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FEMA seems to be very confused about why so many #WNC business owners are closing up shop forever.

Let me explain:

a) You own a coffee shop along a small creek in Black Mountain NC, it's a local favorite.
b) Helene causes the creek to rise 21 feet and it washes away all your equipment and your building caves in.
c) You call insurance, they deny you. You didn't have flood insurance because you live 2,300ft above sea level.
d) You submit a claim to FEMA. You are instantly rejected and told call the Small Business Administration.
e) You call the Small Business Administration, they say, "hey sorry, we ran out of money October 3rd, maybe FEMA can help?"
f) You call FEMA back and they don't answer the phone for 11 days.
g) Finally you email your contact at FEMA telling them what the SBA told you.
h) FEMA says, "Sorry wish we could help you, but we don't handle business stuff!"
i) You say, "Ok, but my business is gone, my house is in ruins, I've got 3 kids to provide for... what do I do?"
j) FEMA goes, "Wait a minute, I'm seeing here that your business is in a floodplain... tell you what, we can't help you rebuild your business, but we will buy it from you."
k) You stare at your phone stunned, "Wait, you have enough money to BUY my business but you won't help me rebuild it?"
l) FEMA goes, "Yes, that's correct. We will buy from it, but we will not help you rebuild it."

m) You say, "That's insane though, if you have the money to buy it, why won't you help me rebuild it?"
n) FEMA goes, "Those are the rules, sorry. If you want a loan to rebuild call the SBA, but it sounds like they are out of money."

That's why business owners are pissed at FEMA.

3:15 PM · Dec 14, 2024

FEMA is likely buying homes/land and businesses for pennies on the dollar and those affected don't have money to fight it and will probably settle just to be able to survive.  8888crybaby

The leftists never ever let a disaster go to waste.

Shameful and just pure evil!
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #758 on: December 16, 2024, 06:21:56 pm »
Buncombe County, where residents are living in tents in #WNC, is refusing to change local permit rules to allow temporary shelters for residents to live in.

https://twitter.com/matt_vanswol/status/1868659815414915074
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #759 on: December 16, 2024, 09:21:36 pm »
Buncombe County, where residents are living in tents in #WNC, is refusing to change local permit rules to allow temporary shelters for residents to live in.

https://twitter.com/matt_vanswol/status/1868659815414915074

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #760 on: December 16, 2024, 10:13:00 pm »
#$%!& Asheville.
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #761 on: December 17, 2024, 12:11:26 pm »
Buncombe County, where residents are living in tents in #WNC, is refusing to change local permit rules to allow temporary shelters for residents to live in.

https://twitter.com/matt_vanswol/status/1868659815414915074
A solution comes to mind for dealing with petty bureaucrats like him and those in FEMA Repeat as needed.

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #762 on: December 22, 2024, 06:10:57 pm »
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FEMA seems to be very confused as to why people in #WNC are so upset about the "50% Rule" for disasters...

Let me explain:

a) You're living in your 150 year-old historic farmhouse with your kids in Asheville NC when Helene floods your home with 5 feet of water.

b) Now you're living in a camper outside your home, trying to shovel three feet of mud out of your basement.

c) You apply to FEMA like everyone else and get rejected 3 times, but decide to continue appealing.

d) After 2.5 months, you decide you can't wait any longer on FEMA and start rebuilding your home.

e) Randomly, a FEMA inspector shows up at your house a couple weeks later, totally unannounced.

f) You're thrilled to them, stoked that you may finally get some help rebuilding and some federal aid.

g) The inspector walks through your home and says, "Hey look, this is really bad. We think your home is gonna require $250,000 worth of repairs."

h) You reply, "I know it's bad, but we've done a lot of work ourselves and a non-profit has donated some materials, so all-in it's probably only $100k."

i) The FEMA inspector shrugs his shoulders and says "Ok, but my estimate is $250,000."

j) Again, you're thrilled. You think that because FEMA says the damage is a high-dollar value, you'll get MORE help from the federal government.

k) A few days go by and you're ready to apply for a permit to begin building your home.

l) But when you try... the county says, "Wait a minute, your home is only worth $400,000 and the FEMA inspector said your damage is $250,000. That exceeds the 50% rule."

m) You ask, "What is the 50% rule? I've never heard of it."

n) The county explains that if the cost of a repair for your home exceeds 50% of the VALUE of your home, you cannot rebuild.

o) You have 3 options: you either have to elevate your entire home, demolish it, or relocate it. The choice is yours.

p) You're in shock, you say, "I don't have the money to elevate my 150 year-old farmhouse 5 feet in the air... and I can't relocate it, and I don't want to demolish it, what can I do?"

q) The county says, "Tough luck, you can submit an appeal to FEMA, but until they grant you a reappraisal and an appeal, you CANNOT rebuild your home."

r) You call your friend who is contractor and he says, "Hey, I'm so sorry, there's literally no way to elevate your historic home, it's not possible."

Your only options left are to demolish your home and start over or pray that FEMA comes back and reappraises the damage at an unknown time while you live with your kids in a camper indefinitely.

That's why people are upset.
3:20 PM · Dec 22, 2024


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For those wondering why this rule even exists…  It was made for beachfront homes that generally flood A LOT.
The thought behind the rule was to force residents to elevate beachfront homes that continuously flood so FEMA wouldn’t have to continually be forced to pay for fixing them.
Sadly, the same rule has been applied here in #WNC and it makes NO sense at all. 
This is pretty typical of the government. They make a rule to solve a specific problem that ends up hurting other people when the rule is broadly, applied to situations everywhere.
3:46 PM · Dec 22, 2024

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #763 on: December 22, 2024, 06:15:05 pm »
One size fits all rules do not fit all.

We had a building inspector who moved here from California, demanding people 'earthquake proof' new construction, until that got sorted out.

North Dakota is one of the least seismically active places on the planet.
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #764 on: December 22, 2024, 06:25:02 pm »
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FEMA seems to be very confused as to why people in #WNC are so upset about the "50% Rule" for disasters...


That's why people are upset.
3:20 PM · Dec 22, 2024


@matt_vanswol
For those wondering why this rule even exists…  It was made for beachfront homes that generally flood A LOT.
The thought behind the rule was to force residents to elevate beachfront homes that continuously flood so FEMA wouldn’t have to continually be forced to pay for fixing them.
Sadly, the same rule has been applied here in #WNC and it makes NO sense at all. 
This is pretty typical of the government. They make a rule to solve a specific problem that ends up hurting other people when the rule is broadly, applied to situations everywhere.
3:46 PM · Dec 22, 2024

The 50%rule applied around here as many homes that were first built were built along the river at a low elevation and in order to rebuild, per code, the home has to be built at a certain elevation -- thus exceeding the difference between what  it was going to cost to rebuild and what FEMA would give them resulting in most exceeding a cost more than 50% of their mortgage or value of the home pre hurricane. The rule gest more complicated. BTW if you have a FEMA policy the max that they will pay out is $250,000 regardless of the value of your home pre hurricane.

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #765 on: December 22, 2024, 06:47:42 pm »
One size fits all rules do not fit all.

We had a building inspector who moved here from California, demanding people 'earthquake proof' new construction, until that got sorted out.

North Dakota is one of the least seismically active places on the planet.

One issue that is troubling in some areas affected by Helene, is that they never saw flooding in over 50+ years.  So why would homeowner's carry flood insurance? I have heard that many claims are being rejected because they didn't carry a flood insurance policy.

FEMA seems to adjust their flood plain data every now and then in order to pay out as few claims as possible.  So ..... where is all the $$ going?

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« Reply #766 on: December 22, 2024, 06:52:58 pm »
  So ..... where is all the $$ going?

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #767 on: December 24, 2024, 08:07:24 pm »
This was North Carolina yesterday. People are still living in tents.

Biden just gave $1 billion for the Ecuadorian Amazon, $1 billion to African nations for natural disasters, and billions to Ukraine.

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« Reply #768 on: December 24, 2024, 08:17:17 pm »
This was North Carolina yesterday. People are still living in tents.

Biden just gave $1 billion for the Ecuadorian Amazon, $1 billion to African nations for natural disasters, and billions to Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1871253558227869936

Gee, looks like things are progressing nicely and getting back to normal.  *****rollingeyes*****

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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #769 on: December 25, 2024, 07:41:01 am »
Your daily reminder than Alejandro Mayorkas and the Biden Administration are among the most despicable people on earth.

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And adding to injury, in a 7 week cycle, @FEMA paid for, built m, and tore down camps with trailers for their workers  and are now moving them into hotel rooms. So they have millions for their workers including trailers and hotels, but are kicking the victims out of hotels while FEMA says they are there to help?
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #770 on: December 26, 2024, 08:58:21 pm »
Remember that $110 billion in FEMA and Food Stamp money that Congress just passed?  Well guess who won't be getting a dime of it.  That's right.  Western NC Helene victims, that's who.
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #771 on: December 29, 2024, 11:17:35 am »
Heck of a job there "Crisy"  keep up the good work.
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Re: Hurricane Helene
« Reply #772 on: January 05, 2025, 06:05:19 pm »
A reminder that FEMA is screwing not just western N. Carolina, but all affected areas:

Yet ANOTHER person in Florida is being evicted by FEMA from their temporary home after being told they could stay until March 2025. A spokesperson for FEMA said, "The license to live in the home is revocable at any time..."

https://twitter.com/matt_vanswol/status/1875988717049110742
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« Reply #773 on: January 05, 2025, 06:37:55 pm »
A reminder that FEMA is screwing not just western N. Carolina, but all affected areas:

Yet ANOTHER person in Florida is being evicted by FEMA from their temporary home after being told they could stay until March 2025. A spokesperson for FEMA said, "The license to live in the home is revocable at any time..."

https://twitter.com/matt_vanswol/status/1875988717049110742

This is absolutely shameful!   8888crybaby **nononono*

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« Reply #774 on: January 05, 2025, 08:20:10 pm »
This video speaks volumes...the devastation is still absolutely incredible...   8888crybaby

3 months after Hurricane Helene: Devastation remains in Asheville, North Carolina


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