Hurricane Helene

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/wbir/status/1839735776755478596

[libertybele]

Massive flooding and devastation. End of times??

[mountaineer]

The devastation to NC and TN is stunning.

[Bigun]

The devastation to NC and TN is stunning.

The wife and I spent some time in the area a couple of years ago. That area was simply beautiful.

[mystery-ak]

At least 45 deaths have been reported so far, including 19 in South Carolina, 15 in Georgia, eight in Florida, two in North Carolina and one in Virginia.


GULFPORT, FL - SEPTEMBER 26: A man crosses a storm surge flooded area on the coast of Gulfport, Fla. as Hurricane Helene passed through the Gulf of Mexico to the West on September 26, 2024.


ST PETERSBURG, FLORIDA - SEPTEMBER 2:  A capsized boat washes ashore as Hurricane Helene churns offshore on September 26, 2024 in St. Peteersburg Florida.


Storm surge flooding in Port Charlotte, Florida


Storm Surge flooding in Treasure Island, Florida from Hurricane Helene


Coastal flooding in St. Petersburg



many more photos
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/tracking-hurricane-helene-florida-landfall

[the OlLine Rebel]

https://twitter.com/VincentOshana/status/1839458282349769102

I like the illegals reference.

If he gets fired it will be for that, not for all his rants about insulting his wife and in-laws.

[libertybele]

At least 45 deaths have been reported so far, including 19 in South Carolina, 15 in Georgia, eight in Florida, two in North Carolina and one in Virginia.


GULFPORT, FL - SEPTEMBER 26: A man crosses a storm surge flooded area on the coast of Gulfport, Fla. as Hurricane Helene passed through the Gulf of Mexico to the West on September 26, 2024.


ST PETERSBURG, FLORIDA - SEPTEMBER 2:  A capsized boat washes ashore as Hurricane Helene churns offshore on September 26, 2024 in St. Peteersburg Florida.


Storm surge flooding in Port Charlotte, Florida


Storm Surge flooding in Treasure Island, Florida from Hurricane Helene


Coastal flooding in St. Petersburg



many more photos
https://www.foxweather.com/weather-news/tracking-hurricane-helene-florida-landfall

This is going to take years to recover in these areas. So, I can't help but wonder how in the heck are all these people who were affected going to be able to vote?  Voting is likely to be the last on their list of 'to do's.

[Smokin Joe]

https://twitter.com/Sassafrass_84/status/1839759343916667291

The construction which seems to have survived best is similar to the house a former employer built back where I grew up. The land was low, just a few feet above sea level, so the house was built up on pilings, with blow out panels on the ground floor. That ground floor area was used as a garage, with a storage loft to keep stuff high up. When a major storm came through ( I think it was Hurricane Fred), the vehicles had been moved to higher ground, the blowout panels blew out, allowing the force of the waves to pass under the house freely, and the house (and all in it) survived.

[libertybele]

The construction which seems to have survived best is similar to the house a former employer built back where I grew up. The land was low, just a few feet above sea level, so the house was built up on pilings, with blow out panels on the ground floor. That ground floor area was used as a garage, with a storage loft to keep stuff high up. When a major storm came through ( I think it was Hurricane Fred), the vehicles had been moved to higher ground, the blowout panels blew out, allowing the force of the waves to pass under the house freely, and the house (and all in it) survived.

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with FEMA and the insurance industry.  The damage is across several states with thousands of homes affected. Hopefully FEMA will step up to the plate and actually payout on policies.  My guess is that the gov't will offer low interest loans to help rebuild.

Hopefully those that had water damage to their homes from the surge carried flood insurance, otherwise they aren't covered by their homeowner's policy.  Homeowner's covers wind but in some cases, you need to have a separate hurricane policy in place.  Homeowner's does not cover flooding or storm surge. If the damage is from water from the ground up then flood insurance is necessary.  Also flood policies only cover $250,000.00 maximum. That's it.

With so many affected, maybe FEMA and the insurance industry will change.???

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

It's going to be interesting to see what happens with FEMA and the insurance industry.  The damage is across several states with thousands of homes affected. Hopefully FEMA will step up to the plate and actually payout on policies.  My guess is that the gov't will offer low interest loans to help rebuild.

Hopefully those that had water damage to their homes from the surge carried flood insurance, otherwise they aren't covered by their homeowner's policy.  Homeowner's covers wind but in some cases, you need to have a separate hurricane policy in place.  Homeowner's does not cover flooding or storm surge. If the damage is from water from the ground up then flood insurance is necessary.  Also flood policies only cover $250,000.00 maximum. That's it.

With so many affected, maybe FEMA and the insurance industry will change.???

FEMA needs to go bye bye IMO. Government has no business in flood insurance or any insurance for that matter. That's includes mandating it.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

The construction which seems to have survived best is similar to the house a former employer built back where I grew up. The land was low, just a few feet above sea level, so the house was built up on pilings, with blow out panels on the ground floor. That ground floor area was used as a garage, with a storage loft to keep stuff high up. When a major storm came through ( I think it was Hurricane Fred), the vehicles had been moved to higher ground, the blowout panels blew out, allowing the force of the waves to pass under the house freely, and the house (and all in it) survived.

I watched a video on Hurricane Andrew which was a real moment in Florida hurricane construction, to the point where you could divide up pre-Andrew and post-Andrew built dwellings. Roofs needed "hurricane hangers" (or ties) was one of the change regulations IIRC. I'm a layperson so don't quote me.

Amazing how bad of a hurricane Andrew was.

[libertybele]

I watched a video on Hurricane Andrew which was a real moment in Florida hurricane construction, to the point where you could divide up pre-Andrew and post-Andrew built dwellings. Roofs needed "hurricane hangers" (or ties) was one of the change regulations IIRC. I'm a layperson so don't quote me.

Amazing how bad of a hurricane Andrew was.

Yes building codes here have become more stringent and have changed several times after Andrew.  Those homes built before recent hurricane building codes are subject to higher insurance costs.

Insurance rates I'm sure will go up again significantly in the states that were affected by Helene.

Agreed, FEMA needs to go. 

[roamer_1]

I watched a video on Hurricane Andrew which was a real moment in Florida hurricane construction, to the point where you could divide up pre-Andrew and post-Andrew built dwellings. Roofs needed "hurricane hangers" (or ties) was one of the change regulations IIRC. I'm a layperson so don't quote me.

Amazing how bad of a hurricane Andrew was.

Hurricane clips are a normal feature now in construction - Even all the way up in here.

[mountaineer]

Electric Vehicles that have been flooded in saltwater can catch fire. If you evacuated and left an electric vehicle or golf cart in your garage or under a building and you are not able to get to it or move it, we want you to let us know. ...

https://twitter.com/PinellasGov/status/1840042408832045266

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Electric Vehicles that have been flooded in saltwater can catch fire. If you evacuated and left an electric vehicle or golf cart in your garage or under a building and you are not able to get to it or move it, we want you to let us know. ...

https://twitter.com/PinellasGov/status/1840042408832045266

Hmph, another way these things suck I guess. Someone keeping a list?

[mystery-ak]

 'There's nothing left' Tiny Florida town ‘wiped off the map’ by Hurricane Helene’s wrath

When Hurricane Helene battered Florida’s Gulf Coast this week, one of the hardest-hit areas was the small town of Steinhatchee, which was overwhelmed by a 10-foot storm surge and 140 mph winds.

Most of the town’s 500 residents evacuated the area — and returned to find their homes and businesses destroyed.

“It’s heartbreaking,” said Donna Landon, whose mobile home just outside the town limits was a total loss.





more
https://nypost.com/2024/09/28/us-news/tiny-steinhatchee-fla-wiped-off-the-map-by-hurricane-helene/

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1840396108087927105

[catfish1957]

https://twitter.com/nicksortor/status/1840396108087927105

Remember when W got fried for just doing a "fly over" after Katrina?

[mountaineer]

Remember when W got fried for just doing a "fly over" after Katrina?

The head of FEMA went to see the storm devastation, so perhaps Joe and Kommiela see no point.

[libertybele]

The head of FEMA went to see the storm devastation, so perhaps Joe and Kommiela see no point.

Perhaps the areas hardest hit are 'Red' areas and they could care less about what happens to them. 

We'll see how well FEMA responds.

[Smokin Joe]

The head of FEMA went to see the storm devastation, so perhaps Joe and Kommiela see no point.

Not taking their side, but they'd be less than useless down there anyway. It'd be a photo op with security people all over and disrupt digging out, cleaning up, and getting things running again.

[Cyber Liberty]

Perhaps the areas hardest hit are 'Red' areas and they could care less about what happens to them. 

We'll see how well FEMA responds.

Asheville is FAR left, and they have been abandoned by the Rat administration.  They will vote for that ticket.

[libertybele]

Asheville is FAR left, and they have been abandoned by the Rat administration.  They will vote for that ticket.

Gottcha.  Thanks for that info.

[Sighlass]

That low is still twirling over Tennessee... very weak and no impact, but still spinning.

[mountaineer]

Organizations helping hurricane victims in TN, NC, etc. (a non-exhaustive list):

Samaritan's Purse (already on the ground in Boone and other sites)

Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, 285 T Kemp Rd., Louisburg, NC 27549, is accepting donations of food and water

East Tennessee Foundation is accepting donations, to be distributed among nonprofit organizations in the 25-county region it serves in East Tennessee

Cajun Navy has trucks and aircraft in the area bringing in supplies to Black Mountain, NC, for further distribution

Some specific requests:

https://twitter.com/SamaritansPurse/status/1840110302383178136

See also:

https://twitter.com/Appalachistani/status/1840376342795203050