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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #550 on: September 11, 2024, 08:05:43 pm »
Question for CA Briefers.....

Harris claimed she is a gun owner last night.  Is there any kind of CA FOIA system or ready searchable database to confirm?
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #551 on: September 11, 2024, 08:27:16 pm »
Question for CA Briefers.....

Harris claimed she is a gun owner last night.  Is there any kind of CA FOIA system or ready searchable database to confirm?

The last politician to prove they carried was heckled on this very forum... Roy Moore for producing a revolver (which is about the size of a gun I carry). Roy was speaking to a gun group (Bama Carry) and still jeered.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #552 on: September 11, 2024, 08:30:24 pm »
Question for CA Briefers.....

Harris claimed she is a gun owner last night.  Is there any kind of CA FOIA system or ready searchable database to confirm?
I caught that too. Harris has never seen an actual gun in her life. She is a LIAR! The odds that she owns a gun is zero.
No. Harris or her soy-boy husband have no guns and have nothing to do with guns. She will force a gun confiscation if she is elected.



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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #553 on: September 11, 2024, 08:35:37 pm »
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A word salad is so much crazier when you look at a written transcript.
Last night when Kamala was asked about banning fracking, she went into a long winding soliloquy about her bio, mentioned a friend getting sexually assaulted by her step father...  And never explained her change on fracking.

4:23 PM · Sep 11, 2024

Fracking, you nitwit. It's about natural gas production, not silver platters or homebuilding.
There's an additional lie buried in there.

The Biden administration has routinely NOT offered parcels of Federal (BLM) for lease nor offshore blocks for Oil and Gas exploration as required by law. Finally offering a few areas qualifies as an "increase", but still falls far short of the statutory requirements for the interim, and that particular lease sale.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #554 on: September 11, 2024, 08:45:16 pm »
Don't worry, just give up your guns and we will keep you safe and provide food.



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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #555 on: September 11, 2024, 08:45:48 pm »
Company responds to theory Harris wore audio earrings at debate: 'The resemblance is striking'

"To ensure a level playing field for both candidates, we are currently developing a male version and will soon be able to offer it to the Trump campaign," the company said.

Natalia Mittelstadt  |  September 11, 2024  |  3:36pm

Following the presidential debate on Tuesday, social media users theorized that Vice President Kamala Harris wore audio earrings on stage. The Germany-based company that sells the earrings said on Wednesday that the resemblance between Harris' earrings and their audio earrings "is striking."

On Tuesday night, Harris wore what appeared to be gold and pearl earrings while debating former President Donald Trump. Social media users compared the earrings to NOVA H1 Audio Earrings, which are wireless earphones. Media outlets and other social media users examined the earrings, coming to the conclusion that Harris' earrings are from Tiffany & Co., not NOVA products.

Just the News requested comment from Icebach Sound, the Munich-based company that sells the earrings.  .  .

https://justthenews.com/nation/culture/company-responds-theory-harris-wore-audio-earrings-pres-debate-resemblance-striking
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #556 on: September 11, 2024, 08:46:18 pm »
Kamala certainly had no need to do this since she colluded with ABC beforehand.  But it's interesting nonetheless.


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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #557 on: September 11, 2024, 09:02:27 pm »
I didn't watch the debate -- did anyone watching, catch what he said (bold lettering)?

Liberals are outraged at three words Trump uttered at the debate with Harris

Trump appeared to make reference to a very salacious part of the Democrat's past.

President Donald Trump appeared to make a joke about Democratic candidate Kamala Harris' past, and many liberal viewers were outraged about it.

Trump was responding to a question from the moderators about why he questioned the racial identity of Harris when he said three words that infuriated many on the left. .................

..............."I don't know. I mean all I can say is I read where she was not black. That she put out. And. I'll say that," Trump responded.

"And then I read that she was black. And that's OK. Either one is OK with me, that's up to her!" he added.

Many believed the three words were meant to harken back to accusations that Harris had dated an Oakland politician in order to climb the political ranks when she was younger. Harris appeared to grasp the meaning of the jab in her physical response.

"Did he just say ' she puts out' ?!?!?!?? What the actual f***," said one commenter who had "BLM" in her profile.

"Kamala not going nuclear after Trump’s 'put out' line tells you immediately she’s 10000% stronger than this ***hole," said another critic.

"Trump's terrible little 'I heard she put out' statement is exactly the kind of misogynistic crap that I watched women in Michigan politics put up with for years," read another critical missive. ..........................

https://www.conservativereview.com/liberals-are-outraged-at-three-words-trump-uttered-at-the-debate-with-harris-2669161706.html

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #558 on: September 11, 2024, 09:22:14 pm »

Conspiracy rages among Trump supporters following presidential debate as viewers question Kamala Harris's earrings

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By Natasha Anderson
10 September 2024

Conspiracy theorists claim they have 'busted' Kamala Harris for using a secret earpiece during last night's presidential debate.

Harris, who has previously suggested that Bluetooth headphones pose a 'security risk', was accused of wearing earphones disguised as pearl earrings to aide her during the 90-minute contest against Republican rival Donald Trump on Tuesday.

Critics have baselessly alleged the gold pearl loops - which Harris, 59, has worn before and are believed to be from Tiffany's - are actually a pair of smart audio earrings engineered by German start-up company NOVA. The only similarity between the two sets of earrings appears to be that they both feature a pearl.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13837961/conspiracy-trump-kamala-harris-debate-audience.html
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« Reply #559 on: September 12, 2024, 01:40:47 am »
Trump said every poll says he won the debate.  OMG, I accept the fact that he is  narcissistic and it doesn't bother me as much as it use to, but wow', that is the ramlings of a mad man.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #560 on: September 12, 2024, 01:46:53 am »
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 Kamala did better than some expected... loved one section where she attacked Trump for not being inclusive then goes on for 5 minutes playing the "Race Card".


I have watched my share of choreographed programs, usually it involves dancing, but last night, the above question on race was EXACTLY CHOREOGRAPHED TO THE LETTER, WORD, PHRASE, AND SENTENCE!!!

Trump said it during the debate, and he said it prior, he just doesn't care what color she is.  But she did proclaim she was an Asian Indian at one point, and now declares herself to be black, and all he did was point it out prior to the debate.  He should avoid discussing his opponent's race...PERIOD.  It was open, frank Trump sharing his thoughts.  He needs to be more alert to the fact that his every word is used and particularly misused by the opposition and our corrupt media.  And talk about misinformation and disinformation!  He should be able to sue these news agencies for hundreds of millions!!

Trump's willingness to go in the lion's den this time did not end with his head on the silver platter, but he has to be smart about this.  Enough already. 

And screw Fox News.  If I were Trump, I would want a debate on Newsmax or One America News Network, both more credible in my mind than Fox News.  Fox spins and has become liberal just like mainstream media.  There are exceptions like Hannity, but with the liberal son running the show, Hannity knows his days are numbered.

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« Reply #561 on: September 12, 2024, 01:56:20 am »
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I am not sure this will backfire on Harris as the MSM will do everything possible to see that doesn't happen with their golden girl...


Not only did last night backfire on Harris, the Dems knew it most likely before the end of the debate, where they were monitoring the read of untold undecided voters who were brought in to provide real time feedback. 

THAT IS THE REASON WHY THEY INDICATED THEY WANTED ANOTHER DEBATE WITHIN MINUTES OF THE DEBATE END.  THEY KNEW SHE FAILED.

And it was reported Wednesday by Reuters that Trump garnered 60% of the undecided vote based on their polling, and Harris only got 30%.  That is a HUGE DEFEAT FOR HARRIS.  HUGE!!!!

And today Trump is the cat playing with the mouse(Harris) indicating he is not sure he needs to do another debate.  He will do another, but he will dangle it for awhile making the bimbo sweat!!!

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« Reply #562 on: September 12, 2024, 02:01:38 am »
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She shouldn't be getting anything out of this debate.  The news story today should be who the Dems could get to replace her on the ticket.  But Trump simply did not prepare.  Nor could he keep his ego in check.

It is Trump and Trump alone who is breathing new life into the Harris campaign.  Nice job.  Trump is the one here who needs another debate, not Harris.  But I suspect he will blow that, too.


GLAD to say, she did not get 24 hours.  Reuters has already indicated Trump got 60% of the undecided, Harris 30% from this debate. 

You are wrong.  It is Harris begging for another debate, not Trump.  And if I were him, I would demand it be on Newsmax or One America News Network.  **** Fox News!!!

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #563 on: September 12, 2024, 02:12:47 am »
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Trump needed to win that debate last night in order to persuade anyone who hadn't already made up their minds to vote for him and obviously he let his ego get in the way.  So, the debate successfully baited him last night.

Prepare for Kamel in the WH.  The hype is out there now for her and that's not going to change.  Trump doing rally's aren't going to change the outcome of the election.

What is needed is another debate between the two and I highly doubt at this point Kamel is going to afford Trump that opportunity. He's done. 


Trump did not lose this debate.  Based on Reuters poll, Trump captured 60% of the undecided, and Harris got 30%.  By my view, that was a decisive victory FOR TRUMP.  Was it a perfect performance by him?  Hell no!

But we the electorate know what he stands for, what he will do if he gets a 2nd term.  What does anyone know about Harris other than she is in reality a Marxist, will push the green new deal, oppose Israel, continue to feed the military industrial machine and continue the war in Europe forever, or until our economy completely collapses, and they do know she was made border czar, and we now have 15-20 million illegal invading aliens, some which may be consuming our pets for food.  Actually, I am 95% certain that is an accurate story.

I am good with the outcome of this debate.  She failed, which I expected.  But again, there is the fixed election effort ready and waiting in the wings, so perhaps she is self assured in part knowing this.

FIXED ELECTIONS ARE REAL, OUR REPUBLIC IS DEAD.  I see nothing happening in this election that will alter that advantage of people I consider traitors to the core.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #564 on: September 12, 2024, 02:16:54 am »
If people just research the fate of the animals in the park and pets in Springfield Ohio, they'll find out the moderators were lying to make Trump look bad. That stinks on ice.


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« Reply #565 on: September 12, 2024, 02:30:00 am »
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Can you remember July 14th.  On that day, there was almost universal agreement that with his assasination attempt and Biden's meltdown that the race was over.  That is how much of a roller coaster this is.  And don't forget, I exeect numerous October surprises on both sides that might sway the race.  Harris has a seedier past that is being conveyed.  While the left has parsed Trump's past so throughly that they have no more bullets left on that matter.   Then add Walz and his DUI, stolen valor, and........   I understand there is some pretty interesting dirt around his time in China, and how that influence has panned out since he returned.


If you check my past posts, I did not see Trump with a victory post assassination attempt, because I am the only one on these boards admitting the Dems have a mechanism in place to fix the election in the tossup states.  You think we have had fair and free elections in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh for the past 100 f***ing years?  Hell no!  Republicans no longer run a candidate in Pittsburgh for mayor.  Fixed elections in Pennsylvania is so common place that no ones questions anything any longer.

Trump could win every debate, and be ahead by comfortable margins a few hours after the polls close only to lose once again by narrow margins 2PM the next afternoon.  I fully expect a repeat of 2020.  I see Harris winning with a FIXED ELECTION.

All of you can pretend in your mind we still have free and fair elections, but we don't.  And with that, we no longer have a republic.  And this time, there will be no January 6th, because you end up spending years in prison as a political prisoner and branded a felon for life.  Yeah, that's going to happen again!  NOT!!!

Until we recognize our elections are fixed, this nation continues down the drain, just like Venezuela.  To refresh your memory, Venezuela was one of the richest countries in the world not so long ago, and look at them now.  Opposition believes they won in Venezuela.  Well, being placed in prison is no victory last time I checked.

Many Americans believed our Supreme Court will weigh in, and yet under the Bush/Robert's Supreme Court, they tucked their tail and said, don't look at us.  Since 2021, we have added a brilliant mind with the addition of Jackson, who might one day figure out what a woman is, but I am not holding my breath.

Like an alcoholic, we need a near death experience to emerge from where we have allowed ourselves to fall. 

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« Reply #566 on: September 12, 2024, 02:45:59 am »
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Kamala says she’s for the middle class.

But her policies don’t support the middle class and the past four years demonstrate the opposite.

Does she fail to understand the consequences of her actions, or is she lying?


Harris for the middle class?  Yeah right.  With cost up 100-300% for everything under the sun, I doubt she has a clue what she and Wrecking Ball Joe have done to those making less than $100,000 household income.  CLUELESS!!!

The policies of this administration support the military industrial complex first and foremost.  Then they support financially sound folks with subsidies to purchase/lease EVs.  It is not the working and middle class buying EVs!   Check the used car lots and tell me if you see more than one EV on a used car lot.  When you understand half of America can only afford to buy a used car, and there are no EVs that are used hardly, what does that spell?  I know, do you?

These communists have one mission, to destroy the nation we all believe to be the best nation ever in the history of mankind.  How could they have any other mission but that with what they have done?  You have to have the intention to DESTROY EVERYTHING to produce outcomes like we have seen in the past 3.5 years.

Remember, we have Bernie Sanders controlling the financials in the Senate.  HE IS A F***ING COMMUNIST.  IT IS NOT A MYSTERY FOLKS!!!!!!

Harris is the clueless candidate, and nothing will help her.  God forbid if this empty suit becomes POTUS.
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« Reply #567 on: September 12, 2024, 02:54:48 am »
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Nor could Harris explain why she simply did not implement her visions either the last three years or would do so in the next five months.


Agreed with everything you said up to the above sentence.

Expecting a lowly VP to implement anything is laughable.  She is merely there in the event Biden checks out.  I honestly do not know WHO is running this government, but I know it hasn't been Biden, and it sure as hell isn't Harris.  They take their orders from someone, I suspect Obama.  Susan Rice was there to tell them what to do, and perhaps others.  She left and was replaced by who?  I have no idea, but you can bet it was someone answering to Obama or some cabal that dictate everything.

If she had the freedom to do anything, I suspect she would have done something over the past 3.5 years.  That might just explain why despite being named border czar, she did not even put on the pretense of doing anything.  Why bother when you know nothing you do will result in any outcome of any kind.  She is merely a placeholder, waiting for Biden to check out!!!
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« Reply #568 on: September 12, 2024, 03:10:28 am »
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The questions addressed to Trump on January 6 were designed to provoke. They had no counterpart addressed to Harris


Everything these moderators asked Trump was intended to provoke him.  All things considered, taking the three of them on, I thought he stood his ground just fine.

The race question was choreographed between ABC and the Harris campaign.  It was so blatant it was laughable.  And despite Trump not giving an answer for Harris to pounce on, she pounced anyway.  Make Trump a racist.  Make sure you make Trump appear racist.  When the man said, 'I don't care what race she is'.  I ask you, how would anyone perceive that to be racist?  But Harris had to stay on the choreographed script.  Absolutely laughable.  Astaire and Rogers never had to prepare for such choreographed dances as what we witnessed last night.

January 6th question from Muir, a real tool if I have ever seen one (I NEVER watch him, and I can say in earnest, I did not miss a damn thing) if you watch his responses to what Trump said, he had canned responses that just did not match up with what Trump said.  Again, it was all choreographed, and about as unprofessional as I have ever witnessed by supposed journalist pukes.  Pathetic.  Muir was a live meme for me.  Pure idiocy.

And then there is abortion.  The Supreme Court, not Trump settled Roe vs Wade.   Individual states are writing their own laws.  Trump has no input on that.  He does not determine that, so why ask a question about it other than to corner Trump and get him to say something stupid.  He didn't.  Muir, that f***ing worm failed on that one too.  Again, Trump stood up fine to the onslaught from these contemptible people.   It was not so much a debate between Trump and Harris as it was between Trump and the moderators.  A true travesty, and when the analysis is completed on this, I am sure this will be used in journalism school on WHAT NOT TO DO WHEN MODERATING A DEBATE.

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #569 on: September 12, 2024, 03:22:06 am »
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Yes, when he went after DeSantis I had made up my mind then not to vote for him; as he destroyed the reputation of a true conservative.  I am casting my vote for Trump because he IS pro-America.  Harris IS anti-America. Period.

Liberty,

I did watch the whole debate, and I listened to multiple networks and their post debate analysis.

You are flat out wrong.  Trump lost nothing.  From all reports, he won huge with the undecided voters, and that is why Harris minutes after the end of the debate was asking for a 2nd debate.

If you get a chance, listen to the long haired woman on CNN, who was an undecided voter in Pennsylvania.  She nailed it in terms of her assessment, and why most undecided voters in tossup states will go with Trump.

Bottomline:  They know Trump, know what he will do.  Harris, they are clueless about, and they are NOT voting for her to be loyal Dem sheep, they are independent minded, and they will vote for the person that will represent their interests best.  THAT IS TRUMP.

But as you know, we still have the fix election machine IN PLACE, ready and willing to provide all the votes necessary for Harris to win the day.

BTW, DeSantis will be ready in 2028.  Count on it.  It will NOT be Vance, although I am sure he will be encouraged to run.
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« Reply #570 on: September 12, 2024, 03:28:37 am »
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Kamala did her little smarmy smartass teenage girl thing last night and got away with it.

Funny you say this, because during the debate, she reminded me of the Mean Girls movie.

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« Reply #571 on: September 12, 2024, 04:16:21 am »
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You are brave to venture into Port au Prince.  There's no way I'd go out of this country right now.  It's just to dangerous; Joe has put a price tag on all of our heads.

I thought I was at the time.  It is a really funny story.  But it was in 2002, and things were slightly better then in this sh*thole of a nation today.

Once there, I was told repeatedly NOT TO GO ANYWHERE ON MY OWN, FOR THEY WILL KILL YOU.  I got the message.

When I arrived at the airport, a friend of my wife's from work(who is Haitian, now living in USA) was there attempting to arrange an adoption for some girl that was a daughter to a friend of his.  He promised to meet me at the airport, and we were to get a beach house together, and he was going to show me his country of origin, relax on the beach, etc.  I flew in on Tuesday, planned to leave on Saturday, and explore and relax, for I had been working long hours prior to the trip.

This jerkoff friend of my wife never met me.  Imagine literally 100+ Haitian men looking at me at the airport like I could make a good dinner for the family.  I stood outside the airport for an hour+++, he never showed.  Called, he did not answer.  An older Haitian man came up to me a couple times asking if I had someone coming for me.  The 3rd time he approached me, I told him, it appears my ride is NOT coming.  He offered to take me to the hotel near the presidential palace.  So, I went with him.  He took me to a taxi with a 300+ lb guy behind the wheel, he sat in the passenger seat up front, I got in the back.

Yes, I was a bit nervous.  Thinking anyone moves the wrong way in the slightest, I was mentally prepared to do anything in my defense.  LOL

Bottomline, took care of my business the next day.  The friend of my wife still did not show up.  If I had seen him, I am fairly sure I would have hit him with the intent of doing major damage, I was so angry in his regard. 

As an aside, I sat in the middle seat between two medical missionaries flying to Haiti to help the people.  They told me they got this and that vaccine, etc.  Needless to say, it did not occur to me.  Well, next day after I did my business, I trusted this guy at the hotel who was living in Maryland for ten years, back in Haiti to visit his mother, he offered to show me around. 

So, the one medical missionary calls out my name on the streets of Port au Prince and tells me about the clinic they conducted that morning.  She says, 'you will not believe it, there is a yellow fever outbreak on the island, and we do not have shots for it'.  I asked, if it was transmitted via mosquitoes, and of course she answered in the affirmative.  Just one more thing to worry about.

Well, when I was in my hotel room, I am clapping my hands attempting to kill a mosquito about every minute.  No netting over the bed, so I wrapped myself like a mummy with the sheets.  Needless to say, I had easily a dozen mosquito bites after one day.  They had malaria, dengue fever, yellow fever, maybe west nile virus, and God knows what else.  I stayed that day, and got up the next morning at 4:30AM and headed to the airport to get out of Dodge.

And there they would not let anyone leave early.  Would not allow anyone to approach the ticket counter.  I was first in line.  No air conditioning either in a terminal that was four walls, no seats, nothing.  When the the gatekeeper finally left his post, about 100 people rushed up the serpentine rows to approach the ticket counter.  There was also a gatekeeper there.  Mind you, I was trying to get to an American Airlines ticket counter and being told I could not approach.

The woman behind me was a medical missionary, clearly of means, who got sick with something and wanted to go home to her doctor in Atlanta, GA.  The gatekeeper approached the two of us, and I told her, "either I get on that plane, or I am going to lead this bunch to tear this airport apart".  She allowed me and the sick lady behind me approach the counter.  She asked if we had baggage to check, we both indicated carryon only.  It took us 40 minutes to go through their departure routine, and each pay $100 for the change in our tickets. 

We were walking to the plane together, an A300 model, the exact model I do not recall.  It was hot as hell.  The plane took off, I was thankful to leave that God forsaken sh*thole.  Once we leveled off, I asked one of the flight attendants, how many empty seats were on the plane, she indicated 82 empty seats.  That is 82  x $100 in revenue for American Airlines lost.  I just shook my head and thanked God I was out.

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #572 on: September 12, 2024, 04:31:36 am »
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lol...last I looked this was called "a debate" and not "mortal combat".  I fully understand the dynamics that a great deal of  politics is a blood sport, but as long as the moniker "debate" is used, I have to call it like I see it. The truth is, that (1) Harris was evasive and lying constantly, (2) Deflected with non-answers and (3)   was aided by  Moderators who awere extremely biased, and (4) Trump still was rattled and thrown from his game plan, and accordingly was not allowed to land punches.  In the nuts and bolts of debate, which you seem to be very versed at, when you fully enumerate the results of that 90 minutes, it is almost impossible to extract Trump as the winner.

That is why if you read further in my posts, I mention that even though Trump "lost" this debate, he still might have won over the court of public opinion, if the populus saw through the ruse.   Sounds like we have difference of opinion on debate criteria semantics, so maybe you can elighten me, on how you think Trump won.


catfish,

I am NOT looking at this debate in the format of a formal debate like we are educated on.  My assessment is solely based on outcome.  Nothing else.

Let's face it, most people are decided for Trump or for Harris, and I think it is safe to say between now and election day, almost no one will be convinced to change their position.  But for the undecided, which are largely independent voters, I believe if he walked away with 60%, and Harris obtained 30%, that is a huge victory.  Still a little early to nail it as a victory, but the reports I have heard to date indicate a Trump victory.

I said, wait two weeks to see the outcome of the debate.  It will allow the necessary time for people to assess their position, and perhaps decide what side of the fence they are on.  But clearly, cost of living is the primary issue for the undecided.  And with that being the primary issue, I know where folks will land. 

Finally, the poor performance of the moderators will further hurt ABC viewership overall.  In the 90s, I remember settling in with my kids to watch a whole evening of comedy shows on ABC, Home Improvement was our favorite.  We all laughed, and laughed with each show.  Those days are gone.  I can honestly say I have not turned to ABC to watch anything in years.

More people will begin turning the channel, and ABC will drop in viewership.  But when billionaires own these assets(in this case, Warren Buffett), losing money is no big deal when they can hold the strings of the likes of Obama, Biden, and perhaps Harris soon.

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #573 on: September 12, 2024, 04:44:36 am »
Mygen Kelly clip


She indicated she got angry.  I wasn't angry, in fact, I was highly entertained by Trump.  He actually said many things that were hilarious.  He had me laughing a good deal.

When he mentioned her plans on her website, he said 'it is like four lines copied from Biden, See Spot run, run Spot run.'  What a hoot. 

Being cornered by three people clearly who choreographed their every move, I was proud of how well he stood up to them.  Did he lose his temper and lash out a but?  Sure, but you would too in his shoes.  I tell you, he did great!!!!

And the numbers two weeks from now will bare that out.  If I were Trump, I would not rush to schedule a 2nd debate.  Let that bimbo marinate in her own bullsh*t!!!!  She is peeing her pants right now.  Forget the accolades from the corrupt media, she failed, she failed big time.


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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #574 on: September 12, 2024, 04:54:37 am »
Well, seeing the video of the woman eating the cat, does anyone need further proof of pets being eaten?  Remember, she could be looking to eat you next.  No joke.

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