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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #525 on: September 11, 2024, 02:35:53 pm »
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #526 on: September 11, 2024, 03:09:28 pm »

https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1833702094198509867

Nothing like a couple of hacks selling out any future legacy for political melding.  Don't spend all 30 in one place y'all
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #527 on: September 11, 2024, 03:38:20 pm »
Kamala did her little smarmy smartass teenage girl thing last night and got away with it.
It was the little girl daughter act dissing on her father.

Trump showed a lot of restraint last night ... not to pound her into the floor.
But, it does demonstrate how much we all need to vote this year.
Having this juvenile idiot (I love busses and Venn diagrams and Space) is incomprehensible.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #528 on: September 11, 2024, 03:42:28 pm »
Kamala did her little smarmy smartass teenage girl thing last night and got away with it.
It was the little girl daughter act dissing on her father.

Trump showed a lot of restraint last night ... not to pound her into the floor.
But, it does demonstrate how much we all need to vote this year.
Having this juvenile idiot (I love busses and Venn diagrams and Space) is incomprehensible.

I am heartened by some of the early prelim. focus group info, that many INDY's aren't buying it, and saw through the ABC ruse in the first 10 minutes.   When the smoke clears, Trump might gather almost as many sympathy points as during his lawfare episodes.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #529 on: September 11, 2024, 03:44:33 pm »
Hey Kamel-uh....  You say you are part black, but will you denounce your ancestor's ownership of slaves in Jamaica?  Jus askin'.  :cool:
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #530 on: September 11, 2024, 03:51:50 pm »
From Candy Crowley, to Kristen Welker, to David Muir......    Has enough of a pattern of debate bias been caused in the past 20 years to merit a congressional  investigation of the DNC and their complict MSM partners?

I think so
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #531 on: September 11, 2024, 04:05:40 pm »
Kamala did her little smarmy smartass teenage girl thing last night and got away with it.
It was the little girl daughter act dissing on her father.

Trump showed a lot of restraint last night ... not to pound her into the floor.
But, it does demonstrate how much we all need to vote this year.
Having this juvenile idiot (I love busses and Venn diagrams and Space) is incomprehensible.
The smarmy teenage girl buttons were the ones she was pushing, too.
That's her shtick when dealing with men who don't fall into line.
She is a juvenile button pusher, because that's what has worked for her all her life.

Hard to deal with, but if he's going to be up on stage again with her, Trump has to deal with that like the only adult in the room (unfazed).
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #532 on: September 11, 2024, 04:14:36 pm »
The smarmy teenage girl buttons were the ones she was pushing, too.
That's her shtick when dealing with men who don't fall into line.
She is a juvenile button pusher, because that's what has worked for her all her life.

Hard to deal with, but if he's going to be up on stage again with her, Trump has to deal with that like the only adult in the room (unfazed).

That schtick works on the surface, but anyone with any snap will see through it quick.  I actually feel better about Trump;s chances than yesterday.  If he works manuevers this right, I think he can work this in his advantage.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #534 on: September 11, 2024, 05:00:00 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4IhW2PWbA8


How get a link for this?  Anywhere else?  Won't be long before YouTube starts deleting these film clips.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #535 on: September 11, 2024, 05:51:14 pm »
How get a link for this?  Anywhere else?  Won't be long before YouTube starts deleting these film clips.

Rumble used to be a "non-left" video alternative to YT.   Not sure it has this particular clip
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #536 on: September 11, 2024, 05:59:17 pm »
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🚨BREAKING: Paramedics called to ABC News debate stage to surgically remove moderators' heads from Kamala's ass.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #537 on: September 11, 2024, 06:16:26 pm »
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🚨BREAKING: Paramedics called to ABC News debate stage to surgically remove moderators' heads from Kamala's ass.
9:33 PM · Sep 10, 2024


Thank you!! I needed a laugh. :rolling:

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #538 on: September 11, 2024, 06:47:45 pm »
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A word salad is so much crazier when you look at a written transcript.
Last night when Kamala was asked about banning fracking, she went into a long winding soliloquy about her bio, mentioned a friend getting sexually assaulted by her step father...  And never explained her change on fracking.

4:23 PM · Sep 11, 2024

Fracking, you nitwit. It's about natural gas production, not silver platters or homebuilding.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #539 on: September 11, 2024, 06:48:08 pm »
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I understand you being pissed.  I am too, but from an objective unbiased POV, Trump lost.  I judged from a traditonal debate point system., and I had it 135-80 for the bitch. On the criteria of content/style/strategy as dictated

"Policy debate scoring is defined by the National Speech & Debate Association to fall under three distinct categories — content, style, and strategy. Each of these area are weighted and carry a total of 60–80 points per debater for each initial speech. The reply on the other hand, is only scored between 30–40 points.

I then split the debate into Part 1 and 2 (45 minute increments) Though I did use a 0-80 and a 0-40 criteria to heighten the effect of any Biden like bombs.


I took speech and debate classes in high school and at my university.  Catfish, THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL OR THE UNIVERSITY, THIS IS REAL POLITICAL VERBAL COMBAT.  AND GUESS WHAT, YOUR RULES MEAN NOTHING TO 90% OF THE WALKING STIFFS IN THE USA.   In fact, 90% have never heard said rules.  You are part of a very limited group of people oriented to proper debate structure, and evaluation. 

A political debate often is one step away from a street brawl, just with words and not fists.  Your assessment has no value from my perspective, and that of the low volume news person, which comprises the majority of Americans, they are clueless to your evaluation process.

They know their food cost is double, gasoline is double, mortgage rates are triple or quadruple, and household cost is through the roof.  So, if Trump steps on his dong in the debate, they do not care, because when he was POTUS, their money had far more purchasing power.  Car prices have doubled.  And you have Harris sprinting away from the Biden/Harris debacle, and Trump is saying, I will make your life great again.

I know Democrats that have never voted for a Republican that are voting for Trump.  Sure, I would rather have DeSantis, who was my preferred candidate, but he never made it to my primary date, for he dropped from the race before Georgia had their primary.  I still voted for him, but he was out.

I would like to believe I am an objective person.  I was a registered Democrat until 2008, when the stinking Democommies picked Obama/Biden for the ticket in June, 2008.  The UGLY TRUTH was at that moment in time, not Obama, Biden, Reed or Pelosi represented my view on anything.  So, I finally changed my registration.  I actually voted Republican or 3rd party all my life but the first time I voted.  I was part of the group that got to vote at age 18 for the first time.  I voted for Mondale, since he was the candidate my parents supported.  But once I went to the university, my eyes were opened wide, and I never did vote for another Democrat for POTUS.

IMHO, 2020 was a fixed election.  And with that, the death of our republic.  I expect the same occurrence in 2024. 


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« Reply #540 on: September 11, 2024, 06:55:51 pm »
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Is there any truth to that cause this is the first I am probably a lot of other people I’ve heard of it

The media, Biden, and Democrats are trying very hard to deny that it's happening but local citizens who are seeing it firsthand say otherwise.

Biden admin condemns "dangerous" conspiracy about Haitian immigrants

https://www.axios.com/2024/09/10/jd-vance-trump-conspiracy-haitian-immigrants-cats


Haitian migrants eating pets? Here’s the even more serious story about immigrants in Springfield, Ohio

https://nypost.com/2024/09/09/us-news/all-about-viral-claims-of-haitian-migrants-eating-pets-in-springfield-ohio/

According to a friend, he saw a photo of a Haitian walking down the street in Springfield with two dead dogs in his arms.

As I said in a prior post, I have no facts, just having been in Port au Prince, I KNOW these people are dining on the pets.  The whole time I was there, I felt llike I was being sized up for dinner.  No joke!

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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #541 on: September 11, 2024, 06:58:00 pm »
According to a friend, he saw a photo of a Haitian walking down the street in Springfield with two dead dogs in his arms.

As I said in a prior post, I have no facts, just having been in Port au Prince, I KNOW these people are dining on the pets.  The whole time I was there, I felt llike I was being sized up for dinner.  No joke!
We heard about cannibalism in Haiti. Why should we be surprised that once they land in the U.S. they're dining on cats, geese, dogs, whatever other animals cross their paths?
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« Reply #542 on: September 11, 2024, 07:03:40 pm »
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(5) Impact?-   With all the monday morning quarterbacking, one thing that we seem to forget is that Trump seems to get poll bumps, even when tradtional thinking would be otherwise.  Kind of like during the lawfare events.  There is a decent chance that some INDYs and moderates saw behind the ruse, and just might decide for Trump.  On this matter, we should know within a week.

The UGLY TRUTH of it all is that for most people that watched the debate, for those undecided, and have more than two brain cells, all it will take is a trip to the grocery store to remind them just how affordable life is today in the USA, and that it is Biden/Harris that made it so.  Two weeks from now, Trump will be up 4+% from where he was pre debate.

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« Reply #543 on: September 11, 2024, 07:14:44 pm »
According to a friend, he saw a photo of a Haitian walking down the street in Springfield with two dead dogs in his arms.

As I said in a prior post, I have no facts, just having been in Port au Prince, I KNOW these people are dining on the pets.  The whole time I was there, I felt llike I was being sized up for dinner.  No joke!

You are brave to venture into Port au Prince.  There's no way I'd go out of this country right now.  It's just to dangerous; Joe has put a price tag on all of our heads.

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« Reply #544 on: September 11, 2024, 07:30:06 pm »
Late watching... so late impressions.... Seemed Trump did good for the most part (given ABC working for Kamala)... His dog comments were sorta dumb, but I still give Trump the edge for the most part... Kamala did better than some expected... loved one section where she attacked Trump for not being inclusive then goes on for 5 minutes playing the "Race Card".
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« Reply #545 on: September 11, 2024, 07:38:48 pm »

I took speech and debate classes in high school and at my university.  Catfish, THIS IS NOT HIGH SCHOOL OR THE UNIVERSITY, THIS IS REAL POLITICAL VERBAL COMBAT.  AND GUESS WHAT, YOUR RULES MEAN NOTHING TO 90% OF THE WALKING STIFFS IN THE USA.   In fact, 90% have never heard said rules.  You are part of a very limited group of people oriented to proper debate structure, and evaluation. 

A political debate often is one step away from a street brawl, just with words and not fists.  Your assessment has no value from my perspective, and that of the low volume news person, which comprises the majority of Americans, they are clueless to your evaluation process.

They know their food cost is double, gasoline is double, mortgage rates are triple or quadruple, and household cost is through the roof.  So, if Trump steps on his dong in the debate, they do not care, because when he was POTUS, their money had far more purchasing power.  Car prices have doubled.  And you have Harris sprinting away from the Biden/Harris debacle, and Trump is saying, I will make your life great again.

I know Democrats that have never voted for a Republican that are voting for Trump.  Sure, I would rather have DeSantis, who was my preferred candidate, but he never made it to my primary date, for he dropped from the race before Georgia had their primary.  I still voted for him, but he was out.

I would like to believe I am an objective person.  I was a registered Democrat until 2008, when the stinking Democommies picked Obama/Biden for the ticket in June, 2008.  The UGLY TRUTH was at that moment in time, not Obama, Biden, Reed or Pelosi represented my view on anything.  So, I finally changed my registration.  I actually voted Republican or 3rd party all my life but the first time I voted.  I was part of the group that got to vote at age 18 for the first time.  I voted for Mondale, since he was the candidate my parents supported.  But once I went to the university, my eyes were opened wide, and I never did vote for another Democrat for POTUS.

IMHO, 2020 was a fixed election.  And with that, the death of our republic.  I expect the same occurrence in 2024.

lol...last I looked this was called "a debate" and not "mortal combat".  I fully understand the dynamics that a great deal of  politics is a blood sport, but as long as the moniker "debate" is used, I have to call it like I see it. The truth is, that (1) Harris was evasive and lying constantly, (2) Deflected with non-answers and (3)   was aided by  Moderators who awere extremely biased, and (4) Trump still was rattled and thrown from his game plan, and accordingly was not allowed to land punches.  In the nuts and bolts of debate, which you seem to be very versed at, when you fully enumerate the results of that 90 minutes, it is almost impossible to extract Trump as the winner.

That is why if you read further in my posts, I mention that even though Trump "lost" this debate, he still might have won over the court of public opinion, if the populus saw through the ruse.   Sounds like we have difference of opinion on debate criteria semantics, so maybe you can elighten me, on how you think Trump won.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #546 on: September 11, 2024, 07:41:19 pm »
The UGLY TRUTH of it all is that for most people that watched the debate, for those undecided, and have more than two brain cells, all it will take is a trip to the grocery store to remind them just how affordable life is today in the USA, and that it is Biden/Harris that made it so.  Two weeks from now, Trump will be up 4+% from where he was pre debate.

I am not as optimistic, as I believe that 3 in 10 are mindless sheeple. I am not saying Trump won't get a 4% bump, but I seriously doubt it, given his ceiling at 47%.
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Re: Trump-Harris Presidential Debate
« Reply #547 on: September 11, 2024, 07:45:14 pm »

Post-Debate Voter Survey STUNS Liberal Media

Trending Politics
Mark Steffen
September 11, 2024

The race to win over undecided voters may not have been settled after Tuesday night’s debate where Vice President Kamala Harris was widely credited with a strong performance. Some Americans who watched the televised sparring told Reuters that they remain unconvinced that the Democrat is the better candidate.

In a survey of 10 people who said they remain undecided about the November 5th election, the outlet asked respondents to watch the 90-minute debate and report back with their thoughts. In a stunning reversal of what may be expected, six voters said they would certainly or most likely vote for Trump, compared to three for Harris and one who remained undecided. More than a few suggested Harris will need to be far more serious about paying for her costly priorities before they can consider voting for her. Five respondents described the veep as “vague” when it came to tackling the high prices of homes and home goods.

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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/just-in-undecided-voters-stun-liberal-media-overwhelmingly-pick-trump-post-debate-mstef/
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« Reply #548 on: September 11, 2024, 07:47:56 pm »
The only optimism that I have found in all this mess is that I sincerely believe that GOD saved Trump's life for a reason. Perhaps it was to help him to overcome the evilness that is before us???

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« Reply #549 on: September 11, 2024, 07:53:35 pm »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists