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Sununu: ‘Almost Any Other Republican Candidate Would Be Winning this Race by 10 Points’

Pam Key 18 Aug 2024

Governor Chris Sununu (R-NH) said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union” that “almost any other Republican” than former President Donald Trump would win the presidential race by 10 points.

On Fox News, Nikki Haley said, “One thing Republicans have to stop, quit whining about her. The campaign is not going to win talking about crowd sizes. It’s not going to win talking about what race Kamala Harris is. It’s not going to win talking about whether she’s dumb. It’s not. You can’t win on those things.”

At a campaign rally, Trump said, “I think I’m entitled to personal attacks. I don’t have a lot of respect for her. I don’t have a lot of respect for her intelligence, and I think she’ll be a terrible president.”

Host Jake Tapper said, “Who’s right here, Haley or Trump?”

Sununu said, “Well, it isn’t Donald Trump in this case. Look, as Nikki probably wouldn’t point this out because she was the alternative, but almost any other Republican candidate would be winning this race by ten points. And so the message is very clear, if you stick to the issues, if you stick to what matters, this should be an easy grace for Donald Trump. It really should the delta that you’re seeing right now is Trump does better with males by about ten points. But where this giant shifted August has come is with the female voters, Frank Luntz pointed this out in his polling. He’s down 10 to 12 points, at least with females. They’re going to come out in much bigger numbers than they previously would have if Biden were the candidate.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/08/18/sununu-almost-any-other-republican-candidate-would-be-winning-this-race-by-10-points/
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Had Donald retreated from political life, there would have been several viable candidates, and less threat of sabotage from MAGA.  I don’t know about 10 points, but Youngkin, Rubio, Haley, DeSantis, Sununu, and Kemp would stand a better chance against Harris.  And I think Biden would have been forced out much sooner. 

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Had Donald retreated from political life, there would have been several viable candidates, and less threat of sabotage from MAGA.  I don’t know about 10 points, but Youngkin, Rubio, Haley, DeSantis, Sununu, and Kemp would stand a better chance against Harris.  And I think Biden would have been forced out much sooner. 

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I'm not so sure. If Shamala's numbers are real, then it'd be the same picture with any other candidate, because people care more about joy than their pocketbooks.
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I'm not so sure. If Shamala's numbers are real, then it'd be the same picture with any other candidate, because people care more about joy than their pocketbooks.

Shamala's numbers are really anti-Trump numbers.  As long as she is presentable, and as long as Trump keeps turning off voters with the stupid things he says, her numbers will rise.
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Had Donald retreated from political life, there would have been several viable candidates, and less threat of sabotage from MAGA.  I don’t know about 10 points, but Youngkin, Rubio, Haley, DeSantis, Sununu, and Kemp would stand a better chance against Harris.  And I think Biden would have been forced out much sooner.

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Sununu had a front row seat to the Senate race debacle of 2022.  Chuck Morse would have easily won this seat for the GOP.  But Trump made sure that didn't happen.
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I'm not so sure. If Shamala's numbers are real, then it'd be the same picture with any other candidate, because people care more about joy than their pocketbooks.

No, I think the Right is hardly joined. Among my own - And that was previously a very active group - None are behind Tumpy. Not one. Two are booked for Zinke, one is booked for Sheehy ... Some are looking more toward Idaho... The rest will follow after them. But none are facing the national election.

And outside of the politically active, I have yet to see a MAGA hat. Not a one. No bumper stickers in the Wally World parking lot. No yard signs. ... No excitement.

The ONLY positive I have to offer is that everyone is sick and tired of the present administration, and their preachy, big spending ways, when everyone I know is hurting - The cut is deep. That is very much in Tumpy's favor - Simply put, he ain't Bitem... But the rah-rah just ain't there.

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I'm not so sure. If Shamala's numbers are real, then it'd be the same picture with any other candidate, because people care more about joy than their pocketbooks.

I think we are being gaslighted. Trump is not going to lose any of his voters from 2020 and he is doing better among younger voters, Blacks and Hispanics. Unless, the Rats use voter fraud in the key swing States Trump will win in a landslide.
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Shamala's numbers are really anti-Trump numbers.  As long as she is presentable, and as long as Trump keeps turning off voters with the stupid things he says, her numbers will rise.

A month ago, Shamala was in the tank. Very disliked, said and did really stupid things if you could actually understand them, and a complete failure. And now she's flying high with nothing but 'joy'.

It's similar to Obama with both McCain and Romney, except both of them had none of the mouth problems Trump has. Anymore it seems like half the country is a bunch of catty pissy cheerleaders who vote people off the island because they're 'offended' and 'don't like' someone, and the media play them like a fiddle.

Not sure if a DeSantis, Huckabee, Young, or Abbott could change that.
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The ONLY positive I have to offer is that everyone is sick and tired of the present administration, and their preachy, big spending ways, when everyone I know is hurting - The cut is deep. That is very much in Tumpy's favor - Simply put, he ain't Bitem... But the rah-rah just ain't there.

Trump could turn that to his advantage by explaining to the American people exactly what went wrong, and then provide a detailed explanation of how he planned to correct it.  But Trump's ego won't allow it.  Instead of teaching Americans how government is their enemy, he would toss insults to everyone who doesn't kiss his ass or bitch and moan about how he was robbed.

This is Trump's election to lose.  And he is already going all out to lose it.  If the Dems can win with a dementia patient, then they can win with a cackling communist.  Because they won't be voting for dementia or communism.  They'll simply be voting against an ass who refuses to stop being an ass.
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Trump could turn that to his advantage by explaining to the American people exactly what went wrong, and then provide a detailed explanation of how he planned to correct it.  But Trump's ego won't allow it.  Instead of teaching Americans how government is their enemy, he would toss insults to everyone who doesn't kiss his ass or bitch and moan about how he was robbed.

This is Trump's election to lose.  And he is already going all out to lose it.  If the Dems can win with a dementia patient, then they can win with a cackling communist.  Because they won't be voting for dementia or communism.  They'll simply be voting against an ass who refuses to stop being an ass.

That's right. The economy is nearly off the table - Except for platitudes - When it is probably the single unifying issue there is.

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I'm not so sure. If Shamala's numbers are real, then it'd be the same picture with any other candidate, because people care more about joy than their pocketbooks.
Remember, though, that those numbers, inasmuch as they are "real," are largely because the left came home after Biden clearly wasn't able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
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Shamala's numbers are really anti-Trump numbers.  As long as she is presentable, and as long as Trump keeps turning off voters with the stupid things he says, her numbers will rise.

That's the bottom line.  While actual Democrats will always vote "for" their nominee, those swing voters who vote Democrat are only going to vote for Kamala because she isn't Trump.

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Remember, though, that those numbers, inasmuch as they are "real," are largely because the left came home after Biden clearly wasn't able to walk and or chew gum. at the same time.

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No, I think the Right is hardly joined. Among my own - And that was previously a very active group - None are behind Tumpy. Not one. Two are booked for Zinke, one is booked for Sheehy ... Some are looking more toward Idaho... The rest will follow after them. But none are facing the national election.

And outside of the politically active, I have yet to see a MAGA hat. Not a one. No bumper stickers in the Wally World parking lot. No yard signs. ... No excitement.

The ONLY positive I have to offer is that everyone is sick and tired of the present administration, and their preachy, big spending ways, when everyone I know is hurting - The cut is deep. That is very much in Tumpy's favor - Simply put, he ain't Bitem... But the rah-rah just ain't there.

Not my experience in Southern NH, I see a lot of Trump yard signs and enthusiasm.

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Trump could turn that to his advantage by explaining to the American people exactly what went wrong, and then provide a detailed explanation of how he planned to correct it.  But Trump's ego won't allow it.  Instead of teaching Americans how government is their enemy, he would toss insults to everyone who doesn't kiss his ass or bitch and moan about how he was robbed.

This is Trump's election to lose.  And he is already going all out to lose it.  If the Dems can win with a dementia patient, then they can win with a cackling communist.  Because they won't be voting for dementia or communism.  They'll simply be voting against an ass who refuses to stop being an ass.


But according to MAGA, we need a bull in the China shop to shake things up..


Never mind that Trump failed to do so the first time around.
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But according to MAGA, we need a bull in the China shop to shake things up..


Never mind that Trump failed to do so the first time around.

Despite the best efforts of the Establishment Loyalists in the Pub party Trump was able to get a great deal done.

I think he will get even more done in his 2nd Term.
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Despite the best efforts of the Establishment Loyalists in the Pub party Trump was able to get a great deal done.

I think he will get even more done in his 2nd Term.

He got almost nothing done. Nothing. What did you get that you really got to keep? He lived by the EO, and everything he did get done was immediately overturned. POOF! No Eyebrows! That ain't right. He is supposed to be a coalition builder. He is supposed to champion laws being passed. THAT's how you get things to keep. When the law is served... He was absolutely LOUSY at that. And the most expensive administration in Republican history - By whole orders of magnitude.

And predictably, his second term will be the same... Full of pompous bluster, and expensive beyond your wildest measure... and all overturned the minute he leaves office. Except the bill. That will be real.

This time around will be more of a flash in the pan than the last one - Mark my words. He has not gained the ability to play nice with others. He is highly unpopular. All the Democrats and half the Republicans will not work with him. That means he cannot build coalitions. He cannot champion laws. He cannot pass any agenda. So he will be back to living by Executive Orders. AGAIN. and that maybe with neither House nor Senate.

Honest to God, I don't see what y'all think you're getting. Take off the Orange colored glasses and really see.
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He got almost nothing done.

Well... for one the USSC would be wall to wall libs/Dems if not for Trump.

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Well... for one the USSC would be wall to wall libs/Dems if not for Trump.

Yup. That is one notch in his favor. If someone says they’re voting for Trump because of that issue alone, I can understand that reasoning



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Well... for one the USSC would be wall to wall libs/Dems if not for Trump.

That winds up faint praise when only one of them has proven to be a reliable Conservative.
And nothing more than any other Republican would give you.

That's not very much to hold onto.
And yet y'all want to do it again. Sommore.

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That winds up faint praise when only one of them has proven to be a reliable Conservative.
And nothing more than any other Republican would give you.

That's not very much to hold onto.
And yet y'all want to do it again. Sommore.

*SMH*

I was just saying that Trump doing nothing was IMO, hyperbole. He made some real gains. Your other point is something I agree with, yes maybe another GOP would have given us the same, it's hard to say. Trump flipped states in 2016 that, at the time, I thought were permanently in Dem hands. On the other hand, in his 4 years of actual governance I think another candidate would've brought more people into our tent. It's Trump's style IMO and you either love it or hate it, and most people hated it. Reagan was warm, humorous, optimistic, grandfatherly, likable. See the difference?

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That winds up faint praise when only one of them has proven to be a reliable Conservative.
And nothing more than any other Republican would give you.

That's not very much to hold onto.
And yet y'all want to do it again. Sommore.

*SMH*

Tell that to the thousands of babies alive today that would have been killed in the womb.
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