Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket

[Smokin Joe]

Eh... whoever Trump choose would probably be subject to this crap IMO.

Indubitably.

[berdie]

It's true that Democrats are always going to try to demonize GOP candidates.  But the effectiveness of those attacks is very much dependent upon whether that candidate gives them good ammo for those attacks.

Sometimes that is true. But most often the media digs so deeply there is dirt on anybody.

[Cyber Liberty]

Sometimes that is true. But most often the media digs so deeply there is dirt on anybody.

Fact.  I wish our Nervous Nellies understood that.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Never take advice from your enemy. Also, Democrats will always tell you who they fear and if they say it's helpful' to dump Vance then they fear him.

No, they don't fear Vance in the least.   They're thrilled Trump picked someone who is so easy to attack. As @Hoodat so congently put it above, this comment by Schumer was nothing more than him just rubbing it on.

[LMAO]

No, they don't fear Vance in the least.   They're thrilled Trump picked someone who is so easy to attack. As @Hoodat so congently put it above, this comment by Schumer was nothing more than him just rubbing it on.

I remember very  well the oft repeated claims on talk radio was that all the attacks on Sarah Palin in 2008 were  because the Democrats and the left were afraid of her

It worked out in their favor


Let’s face it. We’ve all said dumb things in our past that could be used against us one day in a campaign. Whether or not they really cause harm to the campaign we’ll  find out in November. For every dumb thing that JD Vance has said in his past, it can be matched by something stupid that Harris said. And none of these candidates are very popular with the public at large.


The problem I have with Vance is his left-wing views on economic matters.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Sometimes that is true. But most often the media digs so deeply there is dirt on anybody.

It is always true.  They try to get maximum mileage out of anything they find.  The more you have to find, the more they can get you.

Best example of this is DeSantis, who they absolutely hated but couldn't get anything to stick.  Minor dirt that didn't work.   And that's because he was careful not to give them any ammo.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olwuAy3_og&t=194s

Tell me where he went wrong? What did he say in that speech that has been proven factually incorrect? @Maj. Bill Martin @LMAO

@Bigun

Talk about a red herring - rather than discussing the exact speech Vance gave that I've addressed in detail, you direct me to listen to a 30+ year old speech by Pat Buchanan.   Neither me nor a single independent voter is going to do that.

[Hoodat]

I remember very  well the oft repeated claims on talk radio was that all the attacks on Sarah Palin in 2008 were  because the Democrats and the left were afraid of her

It worked out in their favor

But Palin did help deliver Alaska's three electoral votes into the GOP column for the first time since 2004.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

What's amazing to me is that Vance proposing to give parents an extra vote for each child they have, and then to have government-issued loans for all newly-married couples that are later forgiven has been cited specifically by some of us in this very thread as something with which we have an issue.  And nobody defending Vance has ever actually addressed that.  It's just conveniently ignored in favor of a "well, they'd attack anyone" dismissal.

Why doesn't someone actually address, on the merits, these specific criticisms of what Vance indisputably actually said?  Or at least acknowledge that those were dumb things for him to have said.   But just ignoring it feels like the Dems telling us that Biden is perfectly fine.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, they don't fear Vance in the least.   They're thrilled Trump picked someone who is so easy to attack. As @Hoodat so congently put it above, this comment by Schumer was nothing more than him just rubbing it on.

Schumer is playing to the Maj's gang --- hoping to stir the pot and lessen Republican unity.  So far the Maj's gang is coming through for Schumer --- Ignore them.

[LMAO]

What's amazing to me is that Vance proposing to give parents an extra vote for each child they have, and then to have government-issued loans for all newly-married couples that are later forgiven

Mussolini tried this and it didn’t work

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

What's amazing to me is that Vance proposing to give parents an extra vote for each child they have, and then to have government-issued loans for all newly-married couples that are later forgiven has been cited specifically by some of us in this very thread as something with which we have an issue. 

Wow.. i had no idea about that. I was just talking about the childless cat ladies thing.

[Bigun]

@Bigun

Talk about a red herring - rather than discussing the exact speech Vance gave that I've addressed in detail, you direct me to listen to a 30+ year old speech by Pat Buchanan.   Neither me more a single independent voters are going to do that.

I should have known you wouldn't understand. My bad! @Maj. Bill Martin

[DCPatriot]

[LMAO]

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

That's perfect!   

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Wow.. i had no idea about that. I was just talking about the childless cat ladies thing.

Yeah, it's all in that same speech.   The whole reason he made the cat lady argument was as the lead-in for why parents need to get extra votes.  He believes the federal government should provide direct financial support to parents, and wants to ensure parents have enough votes to overcome the votes of the cat ladies and any anti-family allies.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Mussolini tried this and it didn’t work

He's counting on people not remembering that.

[Smokin Joe]

Fact.  I wish our Nervous Nellies understood that.

Just recall Catie Couric leaving every intelligent comment Sarah Palin made on the cutting room floor, and you can see what will happen. It's an established gambit.

[jafo2010]

Schumer is a schmuck.  Nothing this puke says is worth a good listen.  Just one more clown whose departure is long overdue.

[LMAO]

Yeah, it's all in that same speech.   The whole reason he made the cat lady argument was as the lead-in for why parents need to get extra votes.  He believes the federal government should provide direct financial support to parents, and wants to ensure parents have enough votes to overcome the votes of the cat ladies and any anti-family allies.

Remember the good old days  on this here forum when people had a fit over Biden excusing student loans?

Yet the silence is deafening over this idea from JD Vance. I guarantee if Harris supported this there would be more opposition

[mountaineer]

Schmuck wouldn't have said this if he didn't fear Vance, in some way.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I should have known you wouldn't understand. My bad! @Maj. Bill Martin

Oh, I understand attempted misdirection very well.  Just not falling for it

[Right_in_Virginia]

Schmuck wouldn't have said this if he didn't fear Vance, in some way.

Part of it is Trump and Vance are toppling the blue wall, for good.  Then there's Vance not being afraid of the press,  and when it comes to retail politics ---- well, he's a natural.  Here he is at a diner in Minnesota, just stopping by -----   

[mystery-ak]

Charles Gasparino
@CGasparino
BREAKING: From inside the Trump campaign, ZERO chance they're dumping @JDVance
 ZERO and the pivot to exposing @KamalaHarris
 and both her weaknesses and her own "weirdness" is underway. They're ready to put Vance's support of the traditional family up against the Harris's obsession with various forms of gender intersectionality with Vance leading the debate. Story developing