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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #25 on: July 28, 2024, 09:51:24 pm »
Vance will be getting a steady diet of this for the next 3 months-4 years (depending...).  I think he's up to it.

The problem is that a great many people will never really see him handling/responding to those attacks   They'll just see the opposition ads playing clips of him saying things that will offend people.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2024, 11:51:55 pm »
The problem is that a great many people will never really see him handling/responding to those attacks   They'll just see the opposition ads playing clips of him saying things that will offend people.

Look at you ---able to type with your fingers crossed.  Well done!

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2024, 12:39:25 am »
@mountaineer

By 'inexperienced', I am referring to political experience.  He's been in political office for less than two years and has a lot to learn to navigate the nuances of a hostile press and the opposition party they work for.  There may be quite a few foot-in-mouth incidents over the next few months.

Nah.  I wouldn't worry about this.  Vance seems pretty experienced and ready to me @mountaineer    happy77

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2024, 12:42:34 am »
Look at you ---able to type with your fingers crossed.  Well done!

Maybe you live in a fantasy world where the mainstream media shows it whenever a Republican rebuts effectively the charges against him.

I live in reality.  And in reality, the most effective political attacks are those where you attack the opposing candidate using nothing more than that candidate's own words and/or image.

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« Reply #29 on: July 29, 2024, 06:12:31 am »
Maybe you live in a fantasy world where the mainstream media shows it whenever a Republican rebuts effectively the charges against him.

I live in reality.  And in reality, the most effective political attacks are those where you attack the opposing candidate using nothing more than that candidate's own words and/or image.


It’s what happens when one lives in the MAGA bubble. Reading left wing blogs and listening to Democrat in laws they are relieved and excited  since Biden quit the race. Harris will be tougher to beat than Hillary or Biden. Sure, there’s a so called Honeymoon period. But people are deluding themselves if they think that’s all going to go away. Don’t underestimate how much the Democrat base votes based on identity. And Harris checks all the right boxes for them.


Using candidate’s own statements was done quite effectively with MAGA candidates in the 2022 Midterm election despite high inflation and high gas prices. And tying Republican candidates to Trump has worked out very well for Democrats since Trump squeezed out a lucky win in 2016


Harris has her own problems  but she has  a supportive media. And if she picks a vice president that doesn’t turn off half the voters, her chances of winning increase. And if she wins, she would  govern more to the left than  Barack Obama

And if you thought the media went overboard for Obama in 2008, you ain’t seen nothing yet


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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2024, 07:14:48 am »
Harris has her own problems  but she has  a supportive media. And if she picks a vice president that doesn’t turn off half the voters, her chances of winning increase. And if she wins, she would  govern more to the left than  Barack Obama

And if you thought the media went overboard for Obama in 2008, you ain’t seen nothing yet

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2024, 07:18:58 am »
I live in reality. 

I don't care where you claim to live.  The bottom line with you is you're rooting for a democrat victory.  :smokin:

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« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2024, 08:33:14 am »
Do you ever climb out of your fainting couch?

Your snarky and child like responses does not change reality. Your lashing out at other members because they type things you don’t want to hear has been a common MO for you

Your mind is an island. There’s a bigger sea out there beyond TruthSocial and Trump rallies. Harris checks all of the identity boxes for the left that Joe did not. They don’t care whether she speaks in word salad or she screwed up the border.

Denial of said reality doesn’t make it go away.

Harris will be Trump’s toughest opponent, especially if she chooses a more moderate VP. Fact

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2024, 08:45:24 am »
I don't care where you claim to live.  The bottom line with you is you're rooting for a democrat victory.  :smokin:

No, I'm not.   I hope the GOP wins control of both houses of Congress by as large a margin as possible.   And I'd probably prefer a Trump win although I can't vote for him.

But either way, I view discussion forums as a place for honesty and interesting discussions, not as some rah-rah rally for politicians.   Just because I prefer one candidate to another doesn't mean my preferred candidate never says or does stupid things that deserve to be criticized.

You want this place to have the atmosphere of a campaign rally, where everyone is constantly just applauding "our candidate" and never saying anything negative.   That is sometimes possible when "our candidate" has positive, interesting ideas that make for good discussion.  Because then, we can discuss those good ideas.

But when a candidate's only real selling point is that he's not the other guy, and has no interesting and innovative ideas or comments of his own...what's to discuss?  Trump isn't an ideas guy, and Vance has ideas but they're generally not good.  And that is frustrating as hell for those of us who are actual small-government conservatives who would like to be able to support those policies in this election.  Unfortunately, nobody is running on them this time around.

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« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2024, 12:14:44 pm »
No, I'm not.   I hope the GOP wins control of both houses of Congress by as large a margin as possible.   And I'd probably prefer a Trump win although I can't vote for him.

But either way, I view discussion forums as a place for honesty and interesting discussions, not as some rah-rah rally for politicians.   Just because I prefer one candidate to another doesn't mean my preferred candidate never says or does stupid things that deserve to be criticized.

You want this place to have the atmosphere of a campaign rally, where everyone is constantly just applauding "our candidate" and never saying anything negative.   That is sometimes possible when "our candidate" has positive, interesting ideas that make for good discussion.  Because then, we can discuss those good ideas.

But when a candidate's only real selling point is that he's not the other guy, and has no interesting and innovative ideas or comments of his own...what's to discuss?  Trump isn't an ideas guy, and Vance has ideas but they're generally not good.  And that is frustrating as hell for those of us who are actual small-government conservatives who would like to be able to support those policies in this election.  Unfortunately, nobody is running on them this time around.


That pattern of behavior will continue with them if Trump ends up becoming president. I have never seen an election cycle, where we’re being told by one that there’s no issues to discuss that we just need to get behind a candidate and another one, on a conservative site, tells people to hell with conservative policies… Lol


But oppose $8 trillion of new spending? “Why do you side with the left over ‘our president’?”


Oppose raising the federal minimum wage? A Trade war? Devaluing the dollar?  You get the idea
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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2024, 12:39:08 pm »
Vance will be getting a steady diet of this for the next 3 months-4 years (depending...).  I think he's up to it.

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« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2024, 12:42:42 pm »
No, I'm not.   I hope the GOP wins control of both houses of Congress by as large a margin as possible.   And I'd probably prefer a Trump win although I can't vote for him.

But either way, I view discussion forums as a place for honesty and interesting discussions, not as some rah-rah rally for politicians.   Just because I prefer one candidate to another doesn't mean my preferred candidate never says or does stupid things that deserve to be criticized.

You want this place to have the atmosphere of a campaign rally, where everyone is constantly just applauding "our candidate" and never saying anything negative.   That is sometimes possible when "our candidate" has positive, interesting ideas that make for good discussion.  Because then, we can discuss those good ideas.

But when a candidate's only real selling point is that he's not the other guy, and has no interesting and innovative ideas or comments of his own...what's to discuss?  Trump isn't an ideas guy, and Vance has ideas but they're generally not good.  And that is frustrating as hell for those of us who are actual small-government conservatives who would like to be able to support those policies in this election.  Unfortunately, nobody is running on them this time around.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2024, 12:46:31 pm »
No, ......

....... Blah, blah, blah.  Your word salads are soggy.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #38 on: July 29, 2024, 12:52:22 pm »
The problem is that a great many people will never really see him handling/responding to those attacks   They'll just see the opposition ads playing clips of him saying things that will offend people.

Uncross your fingers ... And watch.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2024, 12:54:19 pm »
....... Blah, blah, blah.  Your word salads are soggy.

And there it is happy77

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2024, 12:56:30 pm »
Uncross your fingers ... And watch.

https://youtu.be/uBEVDUlZWbY?si=hhB-TQK1voMDooYN

This is like 13 or 14 consecutive posts that you've responded with baseless insults, instead of substance.  Maybe even a record for you.

But lashing out, is about all the only tactic you have left.  Facts escape you.
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« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2024, 12:58:25 pm »
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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2024, 02:17:39 pm »
Look at you ---able to type with your fingers crossed.  Well done!

Look at you.  Still unable to explain how picking JD Vance was better than choosing someone from a battleground State who, unlike Vance, actually had executive experience.
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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2024, 03:22:38 pm »
Uncross your fingers ... And watch.

https://youtu.be/uBEVDUlZWbY?si=hhB-TQK1voMDooYN

I tried.  Lost my interest before he got to anything that interested me.
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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2024, 05:16:23 pm »
Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket

Never take advice from your enemy. Also, Democrats will always tell you who they fear and if they say it's helpful' to dump Vance then they fear him.
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« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2024, 05:17:13 pm »
Look at you.  Still unable to explain how picking JD Vance was better than choosing someone from a battleground State who, unlike Vance, actually had executive experience.

Mike Pence turned out great, right?
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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2024, 06:43:46 pm »
Eh... whoever Trump choose would probably be subject to this crap IMO.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2024, 06:47:47 pm »
Eh... whoever Trump choose would probably be subject to this crap IMO.

It's true that Democrats are always going to try to demonize GOP candidates.  But the effectiveness of those attacks is very much dependent upon whether that candidate gives them good ammo for those attacks.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2024, 06:48:43 pm »
Mike Pence turned out great, right?

Yes, he did.   He was a very good VP that Trump liked a lot until he asked Pence to violate his Constitutional duty.

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Re: Schumer Says Trump Could Drop JD Vance from the Ticket
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2024, 06:49:25 pm »
Look at you ---able to type with your fingers crossed.  Well done!
Well, you might see it but I wouldn't count on ABCNNBCBS, maybe not FOX, Maga (fecebook), and possibly not Youtube, and all the references on Google are likely to be from the Left.
Most of the Talking Head shows are likely not the venue for complete or honest airings of anything Vance says, either.

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