Trump picks Ohio Sen. JD Vance for vice president

[LMAO]

Not about to rehash the same nonsense with these inbred Trump haters trying to pass themselves off as being fair and balanced forum pundits. 

Every criticism of Trump/Vance has been 100% on policy.  Why that sends you over the edge is beyond me. That's a normal part of the process. And if the policy differences are too great for someone to decide not to vote for them, that's their business.

And the left is just as fired up to keep Trump out of office as you are to get him back in. They are just as passionate in the belief  that a Trump second term means the end of America as much as you believe a Biden(or now whoever) second term will

[kevindavis007]

@mountaineer

I'm with you, my friend.

Not about to rehash the same nonsense with these inbred Trump haters trying to pass themselves off as being fair and balanced forum pundits. 

Calls me a "liar" for claiming we are facing a binary choice come November.  Say I'm "outted" [sic] because at this point in time given our choices, I claim not to care about TRUMP/VANCE policies.

We have positive proof the GOP is the only choice this November.

Eff them all!

I would have voted for Trump, but since I gave money to Haley (yes I'm a Haley supporter) and Trump said he doesn't want my vote anyway.  So I'll be happy to oblige his request.

[kevindavis007]

Every criticism of Trump/Vance has been 100% on policy.  Why that sends you over the edge is beyond me. That's a normal part of the process. And if the policy differences are too great for someone to decide not to vote for them, that's their business.

And the left is just as fired up to keep Trump out of office as you are to get him back in. They are just as passionate in the belief  that a Trump second term means the end of America as much as you believe a Biden(or now whoever) second term will

Plus I don't see the Trump / Vance ticket winning back the suburban woman voters. Going to be hard to win without them.

[DCPatriot]

I would have voted for Trump, but since I gave money to Haley (yes I'm a Haley supporter) and Trump said he doesn't want my vote anyway.  So I'll be happy to oblige his request.

OH NO!!!  How can 'we' win now??  You've ruined it!  You've made the country weaker @kevindavis007   /S 

[jmyrlefuller]

OH NO!!!  How can 'we' win now??  You've ruined it!  You've made the country weaker @kevindavis007   /S 

Seek help.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I would have voted for Trump, but since I gave money to Haley (yes I'm a Haley supporter) and Trump said he doesn't want my vote anyway.  So I'll be happy to oblige his request.

I gave her money and I don't even like her.  Just to oblige his request....

[libertybele]

I would have voted for Trump, but since I gave money to Haley (yes I'm a Haley supporter) and Trump said he doesn't want my vote anyway.  So I'll be happy to oblige his request.

Haley supporter?  Thanks for letting me know.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Folks, The GOP/MAGA party that has emerged is NOT a conservative party. I grant you that. But it is a party with some conservative leanings that has emerged from the democratic process, and, unlike unbridled conservativism, it has the potential to gain a voting plurality unlike anything we have seen since Reagan. So let's look at the good, bad and ugly of the current GOP/MAGA movement (from my point of view):

THE GOOD
1. Peace through strength, avoidance of foreign wars
2. Deregulation, especially in the energy sector
3. Secure borders
4. Conservative appointments to the courts
5. Resistance to the woke agenda

THE BAD
1. Lack of fiscal responsibility
2. Tariffs and isolationism
3. Failure to dismantle the bloated federal bureaucracy (Trump did not even go after Public Broadcasting or Education the first time around)
4. No genuine appetite for constitutionally-limited government, or individual freedom
5. Bias toward devalued dollar

THE UGLY
1. The personality cult That fails to question the cult leader
2. The personality of the cult leader himself, whose narcissism is a weakness that can be exploited and then betrayed  by the worst sorts of sycophants

I won't bother to try to make the case that the good outweighs the bad and the ugly. I will simply say that under a future Biden or Harris (or someone else?) administration, there is no good. Only bad and ugly, and getting worse and uglier by the day. So I will vote for Trump, and I will expect only three things from him: energy deregulation, border security and good judicial appointments. If he delivers on those three things, I feel my vote will have been justified.

Finally, let me say this. We may think that voting no on Trump now might usher in some future conservative utopia, free from the mass hallucination that is MAGA. I have come to realize that politics does not really work that way. If it did, there would have been a conservative utopia after George HW Bush or Bob Dole. There wasn't. There never will be, for the simple reason that thoughtful, constitutionally-principled conservatism is a minority view in this nation, and has been for three generations.

We are a parasitic nation, and parasites are not going to vote for anything that keeps them from being able to suck sustenance from the host.

Very good post.

As far as I can tell, Trump hasn't said anything about using the Federal Society for judicial recommendations.   I'm concerned that if he just picks them on his own, it could be bad news.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I would have voted for Trump, but since I gave money to Haley (yes I'm a Haley supporter)

No surprise @kevindavis007

NIKKI HALEY VOTERS PAC ANNOUNCES SUPPORT FOR KAMALA HARRIS

https://gellerreport.com/2024/07/nikki-haley-voters-pac-announces-support-for-kamala-harris.html/?lctg=12728334

A coalition of former Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley voters pledged their support for Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris’ presidential bid on Sunday, hours after President Joe Biden announced that he was dropping out of the race.

cc:  @libertybele

[libertybele]

No surprise @kevindavis007


cc:  @libertybele

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop when Harris announces her VP choice.

[Lando Lincoln]

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop when Harris announces her VP choice.

Do we live in such an outrageous reality that Haley could be the pick?  We can’t. Can we?

[LMAO]

Do we live in such an outrageous reality that Haley could be the pick?  We can’t. Can we?

When it comes to this election cycle, nothing surprises me

Republican vice presidential candidates going to the left on economic issues

Republican candidates PACs supporting Democrat candidates

A presidential candidate with dementia, and another almost losing his life in an assassination attempt

It would not surprise me at all if Nikki Haley came out and endorsed Kamala Harris

[kevindavis007]

@Right_in_Virginia
@libertybele


You Russian-loving MAGA a**hats and other Haley bashers stuff it where the sun doesn't shine!

She is on record supporting Trump!
I'm not voting for anyone like the old fart or heels-up Harris!

But if you continue down this path I might as well vote for Harris just to p*ss you MAGA a**hats off out of spite!

P*ssing a group of voters is no way to win elections.  Maybe that is why there is a group of Haley supporters supporting Harris.  Also, she is on record denouncing the PAC.

If I get banned for saying this S**t so be it.

[libertybele]

@Right_in_Virginia
@libertybele


You Russian-loving MAGA a**hats and other Haley bashers stuff it where the sun doesn't shine!

She is on record supporting Trump!
I'm not voting for anyone like the old fart or heels-up Harris!

But if you continue down this path I might as well vote for Harris just to p*ss you MAGA a**hats off out of spite!

P*ssing a group of voters is no way to win elections.  Maybe that is why there is a group of Haley supporters supporting Harris.  Also, she is on record denouncing the PAC.

If I get banned for saying this S**t so be it.

@kevindavis007 --- you are absolutely welcome to vote for whomever you want.  I find it laughable that you think I'm trying to pizz off voters.   All candidates have their faults, including Haley, my preference was DeSantis. I see her as more liberal and not exactly truthful.  If that puts your panties in a wad, so be it.    

Calling me a Russia loving MAGA azzhat just shows your overwhelming lack of judgement. Calling me an azzhat shows your character so no need for me to even fire back.

Interesting, up until there was an assassination attempt on Trump, I was deadset against voting for him and was only going to vote down ballot.

Carry on @kevindavis007 

@Right_in_Virginia  I guess I'm now a member of the Russian-loving MAGA a**hats   

[libertybele]

Do we live in such an outrageous reality that Haley could be the pick?  We can’t. Can we?

@Lando Lincoln honestly, nothing would surprise me.  They would make an interesting combination.

[corbe]

   Welcome to the Club @kevindavis007
   They (the Trumpers) did that with the Cruz and DeSantis supporters, initially.
   Notice a pattern here?

[Right_in_Virginia]

But if you continue down this path I might as well vote for Harris just to p*ss you MAGA a**hats off out of spite!

Did you miss your nap today, Sparky?   

[Right_in_Virginia]

   Welcome to the Club @kevindavis007
   They (the Trumpers) did that with the Cruz and DeSantis supporters, initially.
   Notice a pattern here?

Sober up already.

[corbe]

   Even if I sobered up I could not tolerate your cognitive Bias for Trump @Right_in_Virginia
   You seem somewhat intelligent, otherwise. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

   Even if I sobered up I could not tolerate your cognitive Bias for Trump @Right_in_Virginia

Then keep drinking 

[corbe]

Then keep drinking 

   Now my Family and @Texas Robin hate you for all the wrong reasons.  @Right_in_Virginia

[LMAO]

Speaking of the minimum wage,  we know JD Vance supports raising it and  Kamala Harris does too although Trump’s position is unclear. But this is what happened when California raised theirs


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hrtbOU1fdDU

Now imagine that on a national level

[Hoodat]

@mountaineer

I'm with you, my friend.

Not about to rehash the same nonsense with these inbred Trump haters trying to pass themselves off as being fair and balanced forum pundits. 

Calls me a "liar" for claiming we are facing a binary choice come November.

@DCPatriot

There you go posting lies again.  No one here called you a "liar" for claiming we are facing a binary choice come November.  No one.  You simply made it up.  Bearing false witness against other members here.  Again.

Oh, and about that "binary choice" bit; let's have a look at the definition of the word 'binary', shall we?

binary  -  adj.

involving a choice or condition of two alternatives (such as on-off or yes-no)[/i][/color]

Does that describe the election in November?  Well, let's see.  One can vote for the Democrat nominee or the GOP nominee, or RFK, Jr., or the Green Party nominee, or the Libertarian nominee, or the Constitution Party nominee, or one of several declared Independents.  Does this describe a "binary" choice?  By definition, it clearly does not since there are certainly more than two alternatives.  Hence, any statement declaring it a "binary" choice would be a falsehood, a prevarication, an untruth, a fabrication, a lie.

Now having settled that, please take note that my description targeted your statement, not you.  At no point did I call you a "liar".  I only stated that something you posted was a lie.  Demonstrably so.  So you might want to keep your emotions in check next time before compounding one lie with another.

[corbe]

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

There you go posting lies again.  No one here called you a "liar" for claiming we are facing a binary choice come November.  No one.  You simply made it up.  Bearing false witness against other members here.  Again.

Oh, and about that "binary choice" bit; let's have a look at the definition of the word 'binary', shall we?

binary  -  adj.

involving a choice or condition of two alternatives (such as on-off or yes-no)[/i][/color]

Does that describe the election in November?  Well, let's see.  One can vote for the Democrat nominee or the GOP nominee, or RFK, Jr., or the Green Party nominee, or the Libertarian nominee, or the Constitution Party nominee, or one of several declared Independents.  Does this describe a "binary" choice?  By definition, it clearly does not since there are certainly more than two alternatives.  Hence, any statement declaring it a "binary" choice would be a falsehood, a prevarication, an untruth, a fabrication, a lie.

Now having settled that, please take note that my description targeted your statement, not you.  At no point did I call you a "liar".  I only stated that something you posted was a lie.  Demonstrably so.  So you might want to keep your emotions in check next time before compounding one lie with another.

@Hoodat

You need to keep your anal retentive gears in check.

There is going to be a Democrat or a Republican POTUS elected in November.  That's BINARY!

Now, STFU and put me on ignore you simpleton.

[corbe]

   I've been telling you Trumpers since he became the darlin of your eye almost a decade ago, he's TOXIC, even in your language;    note below

[Hoodat]

There is going to be a Democrat or a Republican POTUS elected in November.  That's BINARY!

@DCPatriot

You are intermingling the word 'choice' with the term 'result'.  The two terms are not synonymous.  Nor is 'result' binary since a very remote possibility exists that neither candidate of the two major parties will be declared the winner.

[corbe]

   Thanks for trying to explain to a Trumper, Wilma, that the 'presence or non-presence of electricity in a magnetic field' is Binary.

[DCPatriot]

@DCPatriot

You are intermingling the word 'choice' with the term 'result'.  The two terms are not synonymous.  Nor is 'result' binary since a very remote possibility exists that neither candidate of the two major parties will be declared the winner.

@Hoodat

"Linda-Linda-Listen...Linda-Listen-Linda..."

You're purposefully contorted my post in order to give me an English lesson.  Eff off.

Don't care how many people are running for POTUS in November. 

The FACT is that the winner is going to be a Republican or a Democratic Party candidate. 

Any vote cast other than THAT BINARY choice we truly have is wasted and merely a protest vote.

[catfish1957]

@Hoodat

"Linda-Linda-Listen...Linda-Listen-Linda..."

You're purposefully contorted my post in order to give me an English lesson.  Eff off.

Don't care how many people are running for POTUS in November. 

The FACT is that the winner is going to be a Republican or a Democratic Party candidate. 

Any vote cast other than THAT BINARY choice we truly have is wasted and merely a protest vote.

Your posts have become such gibberish.  Do you need help?

[mountaineer]

Who Is J.D. Vance? Don’t Expect The Corrupt Media To Tell You
The leftist media’s coverage of J.D. Vance indicates something even more damning than its obvious, long-documented political bias.
By: Casey Chalk
July 24, 2024

Who is J.D. Vance? Millions of Americans have been asking this question since former President Donald Trump announced that Vance, a bestselling author and junior senator from Ohio, would be his running mate in the 2024 presidential election. Unfortunately, the majority of prominent media sources available to our nation’s electorate have already proven themselves unable (or unwilling) to answer it.

Given we are talking about the potential next vice president of the country — and, if history is our tutor, a likely future president — such malfeasance represents the embarrassing degree to which our establishment media have abandoned their mission.  ...

Not that The Washington Post is all that unique. CNN’s “Fast Facts” offers no information on Vance’s political positions — though, once again, you’ll learn he was once critical of Trump (aren’t people allowed to change their political opinions?). Another CNN piece analyzes Vance’s positions according to his autobiography, as if a 2016 book published years before he was even in politics is the best source available on that topic. ...

Who is J.D. Vance? Don’t bother asking legacy media — even if they knew, they wouldn’t tell you. Much better, in their view, to force-feed audiences on buzzwords (e.g., “election-denier,” “anti-immigrant,” “white nationalist”) aimed at ruining the Ohio senator’s reputation by November. Thankfully, fewer and fewer Americans are fooled by such journalistic chicanery.

Yet, as citizens of a free republic, we should expect more from our educated, professional class, who, whatever their personal political opinions, are supposed to be motivated by a patriotic, humble sense of service to all American citizens. As the framers understood, the establishment, because of its position of relative power, is supposed to strenuously labor to serve and faithfully communicate with the electorate in all its diversity, lest it be perceived by that electorate as a tyrannical oligarchy. And if you know much of anything about vice presidential candidate J.D. Vance, you’d know such motivations are central to his own meteoric entrance into public service.

https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/24/who-is-j-d-vance-dont-expect-the-corrupt-media-to-tell-you/

[Bigun]

Who Is J.D. Vance? Don’t Expect The Corrupt Media To Tell You
The leftist media’s coverage of J.D. Vance indicates something even more damning than its obvious, long-documented political bias.
By: Casey Chalk
July 24, 2024 https://thefederalist.com/2024/07/24/who-is-j-d-vance-dont-expect-the-corrupt-media-to-tell-you/

The mass media in this country has been public enemy #1 for as long as I can remember.

[DCPatriot]

Your posts have become such gibberish.  Do you need help?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFYsJYPye94&t=75s

@catfish1957

LOL!  You don't get around very much, do you?? 

[roamer_1]

Any vote cast other than THAT BINARY choice we truly have is wasted and merely a protest vote.

HAHAHAHAHA! you just described a non-binary category, added to your supposed binary choice.

 

And protest is not waste.

[Hoodat]

The FACT is that the winner is going to be a Republican or a Democratic Party candidate. 

Any vote cast other than THAT BINARY choice we truly have is wasted and merely a protest vote.

QED

[Right_in_Virginia]

QED

How?

[Hoodat]

How?

If there is a choice "other than" '0' or '1', then it isn't binary.

[MeganC]

If there is a choice "other than" '0' or '1', then it isn't binary.

The existence of an irrelevant or non sequitur choice does not render the effective binary choice (A or B) false.

For instance, if the question is who will win the boxing match between Mike Tyson and Oleksandr Usyk?

Then you can indeed choose Taylor Swift as your response. But given that Taylor Swift is not even a rational choice then the choice is moot and anyone betting on her to even be present for the Tyson-Usyk match is stupid.

[DCPatriot]

The existence of an irrelevant or non sequitur choice does not render the effective binary choice (A or B) false.

For instance, if the question is who will win the boxing match between Mike Tyson and Oleksandr Usyk?

Then you can indeed choose Taylor Swift as your response. But given that Taylor Swift is not even a rational choice then the choice is moot and anyone betting on her to even be present for the Tyson-Usyk match is stupid.

@MeganC

Thanks for taking your precious time to 'splain it to these trolls.   

It's Personal Freedom and Prosperity or Communism and Misery this November.

[Right_in_Virginia]

If there is a choice "other than" '0' or '1', then it isn't binary.

Only if you ignore reality and math. 

[roamer_1]

 

This is a laugh-riot.

Words mean things n'shit

[DCPatriot]

This is a laugh-riot.

Words mean things n'shit

That's right! Congratulations!  Now you have it!!

Ours mean things...yours mean sh*t!

[roamer_1]

That's right! Congratulations!  Now you have it!!

Ours mean things...yours mean sh*t!

If that was wit, you're halfway there.

Unless a vote is forced, there is always the ability to abstain - with no other factors at all, that is more than a binary choice.
Your glorious leader looks just like the other side to me... A distinction without a difference... So I will withhold my vote.

And in doing so, in reasonable numbers, even if he wins, denies him mandate. That is the purpose of abstaining -To deny mandate. That is an active, reasonable, and purposeful choice. And I will employ it.

[DCPatriot]

If that was wit, you're halfway there.

Unless a vote is forced, there is always the ability to abstain - with no other factors at all, that is more than a binary choice.
Your glorious leader looks just like the other side to me... A distinction without a difference... So I will withhold my vote.

And in doing so, in reasonable numbers, even if he wins, denies him mandate. That is the purpose of abstaining -To deny mandate. That is an active, reasonable, and purposeful choice. And I will employ it.

The only "half-wit" in this conversation is you!

You believe abstaining from voting for the top of the ticket prevents a mandate (how egotistical of you) and absolves you personally of any part of a negative outcome for the Republic...that it cleanses you of any blame for the current state of affairs since Biden stole the Oval Office in 2020.

All you do is exhibit the childish antics of a little boy who, because he can't set the rules...grabs his ball and runs home to his cabin.

GO!  I don't care!   

[roamer_1]

The only "half-wit" in this conversation is you!

You believe abstaining from voting for the top of the ticket prevents a mandate (how egotistical of you) and absolves you personally of any part of a negative outcome for the Republic...that it cleanses you of any blame for the current state of affairs since Biden stole the Oval Office in 2020.

Look, If he stole the office in 2020, then my abstinence means nothing - He stole it. Otherwise you are recognizing that abstaining can have a massive effect - The allusion that perhaps those who abstained, had they voted for your prince, would have overcome the cheat... That is a powerful bloc.

So pick your poison, because either way you're wrong.

As far as negative outcome for the country, either choice brings the same - Voting to give the most expensive administration in history another shot at it is absurd. Voting to return to an administration whose damage to libertarianism is also historic - Again, absurd.. Voting to restore an administration like that is beyond any argument. I will not vote for that. It doesn;t matter what the Democrats bring.

Voting for big government on the right (That's socialism)- Throwing Conservatism under the bus  -Who then will defend Conservatism? And if Conservatism is gone, then I have no interest in supporting Republicans.- There is no purpose.

All you do is exhibit the childish antics of a little boy who, because he can't set the rules...grabs his ball and runs home to his cabin.

GO!  I don't care!   

Oh bullshit. My position is well reasoned, and is well defined. You are welcome to challenge it at any time, as you have done so many times before with no success. Because mine is not an emotional decision. And the reasoning is impeccable.

I am not convinced by 'Because Democrats...' Your boogeyman looks a lot like you.

[LMAO]

I’ve decided I don’t care what you wanna call it whether it’s conservatism or something else


Just give me a candidate that’s fights to reduce the size of the federal government and fight against one to $2 trillion deficits

Deficits have gotten larger and roughly the last 20 years and government has gotten bigger. Is anybody going to argue that the American people are better  off as a result?

We’re printing money just to finance the debt. That’s got to matter a little bit, right?

[LMAO]

LOL!  Didn't realize that.  It's exhilarating, isn't it?   

In two years, I will be joining you and @massadvj  in that lifestyle


Nearly 40 years working for the American healthcare system takes its toll

And it isn’t getting better.

[massadvj]

In two years, I will be joining you and @massadvj  in that lifestyle


Nearly 40 years working for the American healthcare system takes its toll

And it isn’t getting better.

I waited until I was 68 to retire. I am now 71 and none of the fears I had about retirement have come to pass.  It's great.

[Bigun]

I waited until I was 68 to retire. I am now 71 and none of the fears I had about retirement have come to pass.  It's great.

I've been retired for sixteen years now and have not regretted it for a second.

[Hoodat]

If there is a choice "other than" '0' or '1', then it isn't binary.

Only if you ignore reality and math. 

This IS math.  'Binary' means two choices - by its very definition.  Not sure how anyone can screw that up.  Simple logic.


There are 10 kinds of people in this world:  Those who understand binary, and those who don't.