Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]

[Right_in_Virginia]

"Brilliant political ad."

https://twitter.com/ericmmatheny/status/1812674401831170142

[libertybele]

"Brilliant political ad."

https://twitter.com/ericmmatheny/status/1812674401831170142

 Kid Rock! Pretty darn powerful though this ad may be construed as having a slightly insurrectionist tone.  I am not finding fault, but I see this as a bit on the edge.  However,  I feel people need to realize that this Republic is to that point.

[GtHawk]

If all he had was a cheapo AR-15  he could of gotten around 2.6 in groups, if he did his part.  Now if he had a quality AR,  he could have possibly gotten 0.7 in groups at 130 yds.

All assuming the peep had the rifle sighted in accurately for say 100 yards, considering how bad those on the HS rifle term say HS was, I doubt he had the ability to do that himself. If someone else  had sighted it in it would be dialed in for them not he who is now fertilizer.

[corbe]

[Right_in_Virginia]

Kid Rock! Pretty darn powerful though this ad may be construed as having a slightly insurrectionist tone.  I am not finding fault, but I see this as a bit on the edge.  However,  I feel people need to realize that this Republic is to that point.

Valid points.  I don't think it was made for mainstream distribution...but, it should get a couple of million views on Al Gore's magnificent Internet 

[Bigun]

Secret Service agents.



Not Secret Service agents.

[Cyber Liberty]

All assuming the peep had the rifle sighted in accurately for say 100 yards, considering how bad those on the HS rifle term say HS was, I doubt he had the ability to do that himself. If someone else  had sighted it in it would be dialed in for them not he who is now fertilizer.

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

[DCPatriot]

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

Piggy-backing on @Bigun 's theory...perhaps the 2nd shooter's task was to shoot Crooks and not Pres. Trump.

@Cyber Liberty  (I seen the movie "SHOOTER" a dozen times) 

[Smokin Joe]

I've been watching and reading everything I could find about this incident for more than 48 hours now and think I have some idea about what took place. If what I think took place is true, you'll see it only here so pay attention.

The people responsible for this set the young man up to be the patsy (hat tip @jafo2010 ) used him to make sure he drew all the attention while the actual pro was on the roof of the building just behind the one the kid was on wearing attire (rifle and all) that blended with the building. When the kid opened up, the pro took one shot (the one that nearly did the job). When the counter snipers opened up on he kid, the pro slid down from his perch, got in his car, and calmly drove away.

Call me anything you want but that's what I think and it fits the MO.

You may be right. Using the fracas and focus on the kid, that would be all the diversion needed. Has anyone checked over the building behind the one the kid was on? I mean really (CSI stuff) checked it over?

My bet is no, because it is human nature to quit looking when you think you have found the answer you are looking for.

[Smokin Joe]

They didn't have time to panic. It takes some time for that to develop.

Awareness of a threat has to sink in first. For some, it comes quicker than others.

[Ghost Bear]

Saw an excellent video mash-up on a livestream, it takes video from several sources, time-syncs them, and has them running simultaneously with a timer so you can see when people pointed out the guy on the roof, how law enforcement reacted, and how long it then took before shooting started.

I'm looking for a link to the video but haven't found it yet, has anyone else seen it?

EDIT: found it:

https://twitter.com/TheMilkBarTV/status/1812731727053488418

[Elderberry]

All assuming the peep had the rifle sighted in accurately for say 100 yards, considering how bad those on the HS rifle term say HS was, I doubt he had the ability to do that himself. If someone else  had sighted it in it would be dialed in for them not he who is now fertilizer.

I've sighted in rifles for other shooters. At 100 yds, that's not much of an issue.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1812927650215698600

[Hoodat]

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

A key to this case will depend on recovery of all fired rounds.  Ballistics should reveal whether they came from the perps gun or possibly some other gun.  So far, I haven't heard any mention of this.

I can't believe they abandoned the scene the night following the attack.  They should have had a whole team of experts combing the premises throughout the night with metal detectors searching for those rounds.  Who leaves a crime scene vacant like that?

[Hoodat]

Libs everywhere are losing their shit over this.  Even the few lib friends of mine I still stay in contact with.   It's like they are grieving the loss of a loved one.

Would their moods be better if Trump had died?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1812927650215698600

In the same manner that Biden directed you to secure the border?

In that puny brain of yours, you are convinced you are doing it.

[Smokin Joe]

We are also assuming he was firing 5.56 ammo.  He could have had the weapon (chambered in 5.56) loaded with .225 rounds.  I did read that the weapon was 5.56.

I think you meant .223, and there are ballistic differences. Still, it was his windage and a turn of the head that kept the shot from being lethal, not a question of bullet drop or lack of it.

[SZonian]

[deb]

That’s a definition of a life well-lived. A good and faithful servant.
God bless his family and all those who loved him. May they find comfort in our Savior’s loving arms.

[Bigun]

That’s a definition of a life well-lived. A good and faithful servant.
God bless his family and all those who loved him. May they find comfort in our Savior’s loving arms.

 

[Smokin Joe]

Would their moods be better if Trump had died?

Seriously? It'd look like Mardi Gras out there in blue america.

[verga]

I think you meant .223, and there are ballistic differences. Still, it was his windage and a turn of the head that kept the shot from being lethal, not a question of bullet drop or lack of it.

If it was chambered for 5.56 and he was using the .223 ammo that could be part of the reason for the miss. I don't think they had the Wylde barrels back then.

[Bigun]

If it was chambered for 5.56 and he was using the .223 ammo that could be part of the reason for the miss. I don't think they had the Wylde barrels back then.

Wylde chambers have been around for a long time and the velocity differences between 5.56 and .223 ammo at 130 yds would be so minor as to be irrelevant. Just my opinion in the last part..

[Sighlass]

If it was chambered for 5.56 and he was using the .223 ammo that could be part of the reason for the miss. I don't think they had the Wylde barrels back then.

Paul tested this... and found no difference to note... the differences are too insignificant to notice. Basically the same speeds and accuracy when shooting ammo with similar specs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgGhIcR_Mk

[mountaineer]

My bet is no, because it is human nature to quit looking when you think you have found the answer you are looking for.

Assuming the FBI has any interest at all in finding answers. Will they scour the grounds for every one of the eight rounds Crooks supposedly shot? Will they run ballistics to see whether they all were fired from his father's rifle? I'm not confident they want to find the truth. If they were, they wouldn't be announcing barely 36 hours after the shooting, "Gee golly, we just can't get into the kid's phone. Oh well. But we know he acted alone."