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https://apnews.com/article/trump-project-2025-biden-9d372469033d23e1e3aef5cf0470a2e6

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Donald Trump distanced himself Friday from Project 2025, a massive proposed overhaul of the federal government drafted by longtime allies and former officials in his administration, days after the head of the think tank responsible for the program suggested there would be a second American Revolution.

“I know nothing about Project 2025,” Trump posted on his social media website. “I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

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This is what happens when Conservatives try to help Trump...he turns around and bites, in this case it's the Heritage Foundation.

What is Project 2025, Heritage Foundation’s outline of conservative priorities?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4753684-heritage-foundation-project-2025/

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The Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025 has garnered national attention in recent weeks for its right-wing policy proposals that Democrats have now launched efforts against.

Project 2025 outlines a series of policies and initiatives conservatives hope to put forward in a new administration. It has been a rallying point for Democrats, who say that the outline represents an extreme conservative agenda if Republicans win back the White House in November. 

Here’s what to know about Project 2025:

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What is Project 2025, Heritage Foundation’s outline of conservative priorities?

...........One of the central priorities outlined in Project 2025 includes reimplementing Schedule F, which would reclassify thousands of workers so that they could be subject to swifter firing. The Associated Press noted that this could affect up to 50,000 federal workers.

Then-President Trump rolled out an executive order regarding Schedule F in 2020, but President Biden revoked it after he took office. His administration introduced a new rule earlier this year that would make it more difficult for Trump to fire federal workers if he is reelected.

The handbook also rails against abortion, demanding that the federal government cut funding for abortions in some of its programs and that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reverse its approval of abortion pills, such as mifepristone. .............

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4753684-heritage-foundation-project-2025/


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To be fare, it was rolled out by the Heritage Foundation before Trump announced he was running again. But he had to at least be aware of it. Should have just distance himself from it and left it at that.
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To be fare, it was rolled out by the Heritage Foundation before Trump announced he was running again. But he had to at least be aware of it. Should have just distance himself from it and left it at that.

Trump is out and out denying that he knows anything about Project 2025. So, in essence, he's lying.

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I’ve only very recently seen or heard some mention of this Project 2025.

What is it?

What I’m seeing here looks ok to me!
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I’ve only very recently seen or heard some mention of this Project 2025.

What is it?

What I’m seeing here looks ok to me!

This is the first I've heard of Proj 2025 as well, but bottom line is Trump is denying that he knew about it.  So IMHO there are probably issues that Trump has commented on that contradicts what he's now saying.  IOW, backpedaling as usual.

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To be fare, it was rolled out by the Heritage Foundation before Trump announced he was running again. But he had to at least be aware of it. Should have just distance himself from it and left it at that.

Doesn't he do that @NavyCanDo ?


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I’ve only very recently seen or heard some mention of this Project 2025.

What is it?

What I’m seeing here looks ok to me!
Left wing boogeyman that they think somehow will turn America into Gilead.

'course, with the way the marriage/birth rates are, they may get Gilead anyway.
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This is the first I've heard of Proj 2025 as well, but bottom line is Trump is denying that he knew about it.  So IMHO there are probably issues that Trump has commented on that contradicts what he's now saying.  IOW, backpedaling as usual.

@libertybele

It seems Trump is saying he's aware of them, but they are separate, distinct and not involved with the campaign..  :shrug:



It also appears the organization agrees ....



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This comes up on Reddit a lot, especially in the last few days, anyone have a summary of it?

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@libertybele

It seems Trump is saying he's aware of them, but they are separate, distinct and not involved with the campaign..  :shrug:



It also appears the organization agrees ....


Very first line, Trump says; that he knows nothing about project 2025.  That's a far cry from Trump saying he's aware of them.  :shrug:

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Very first line, Trump says; that he knows nothing about project 2025.  That's a far cry from Trump saying he's aware of them.  :shrug:

Your lying eyes...

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Very first line, Trump says; that he knows nothing about project 2025.  That's a far cry from Trump saying he's aware of them.  :shrug:

@libertybele

Trump states his point: "I have no idea who is behind it". He does not say he knows nothing about the Project;  that's your edit. --- In fact, Trump makes it clear he disagrees with the "ridiculous and abysmal" things they say.

He closes by returning to his point:  "I have nothing to do with them".   




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@libertybele

Trump states his point: "I have no idea who is behind it". He does not say he knows nothing about the Project;  that's your edit. --- In fact, Trump makes it clear he disagrees with the "ridiculous and abysmal" things they say.

He closes by returning to his point:  "I have nothing to do with them".   





Amazing...

The first five words and the number 2025 of Trump's message you quoted originally says exactly that: "I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PROJECT 2025".

You are bold in posting that crap though, I'll give you that... Again, our lying eyes...

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I mean... some of the stuff in Project 2025 is pretty obviously not Trump. There's some pretty hardcore socially conservative, nuclear-family-is-the-best-family ideals in there that Trump violated decades ago.
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Trump may not be lying completely.  I'm sure he found Project 2025 too detailed, too long, and too boring to read from cover to cover.

Trump is Project 2025's battering ram.
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Amazing...

The first five words and the number 2025 of Trump's message you quoted originally says exactly that: "I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PROJECT 2025".

You are bold in posting that crap though, I'll give you that... Again, our lying eyes...

This latest Project 2025 allegation has been percolating for months.  You've actually missed a lot of previous "reports" and ying-yangs over this --- and explains why you're so confused.  You're jumping into the middle of an ongoing conversation.     

But, anyone paying (actual) attention to politics knows about Project 2025 and most consider them fringe --- which is why your comrades continue to lie and claim Trump owns them ----

All Trump is saying here is he thinks they're fringe, doesn't know their leadership and his campaign has nothing to do with them.  That's it. 

Now I hope you go out and enjoy this summertime Saturday night.  Sounds like you can use some fun.   :beer:

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This latest Project 2025 allegation has been percolating for months.  You've actually missed a lot of previous "reports" and ying-yangs over this --- and explains why you're so confused.  You're jumping into the middle of an ongoing conversation.     

But, anyone paying (actual) attention to politics knows about Project 2025 and most consider them fringe --- which is why your comrades continue to lie and claim Trump owns them ----

All Trump is saying here is he thinks they're fringe, doesn't know their leadership and his campaign has nothing to do with them.  That's it. 

Now I hope you go out and enjoy this summertime Saturday night.  Sounds like you can use some fun.   :beer:

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Words have meaning. Stop trying to twist them into something they don't mean.

If it weren't for twisting words, there'd be nothing to post.

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I haven't read much of it yet but what I have read, I like! Particularly this part:

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TAX POLICY

Tax policy has a powerful impact on the economy. The Treasury Department
should develop and promote tax reform legislation that will promote prosperity.
To accomplish this, tax reform should improve incentives to work, save, and invest.
This, in turn, is accomplished primarily by reducing marginal tax rates,13 reducing
the cost of capital14 and broadening the tax base to eliminate tax-induced economic
distortions by eliminating special-interest tax credits, deductions, and exclusions.
Tax compliance costs will decline precipitously if the tax system is substantially
simplified.15 The Treasury Department should also promote tax competition rather
than supporting an international tax cartel.
Principles of Good Tax Policy. These are the principles governing
good tax policy.
l First, the tax system should raise the revenue necessary to fund a limited
government for constitutionally appropriate activities. It should raise this
revenue such that it: (a) applies the least economically destructive forms of
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Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise
taxation;16 (b) has low tax rates on a broad, neutral tax base; (c) minimizes
interference with the operation of the free market and free enterprise; and
(d) minimizes the cost to taxpayers of compliance with and administration
of the tax system.

Second, the tax system should minimize its adverse impact on the family
and the core institutions of civil society.

Third, the tax system should be applied consistently—with special privileges
for none—and respect taxpayer due process and privacy rights.

The current tax system is inconsistent with these principles and needs to be
reformed to promote prosperity, reduce compliance costs, and improve fairness.

The incoming Administration should promote immediate intermediate reforms
to the existing system. It should then pursue fundamental tax reform

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

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I haven't read much of it yet but what I have read, I like! Particularly this part:

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

I find myself becoming  aroused at reading that 888mouth

Especially this part

To accomplish this, tax reform should improve incentives to work, save, and invest.
This, in turn, is accomplished primarily by reducing marginal tax rates,13 reducing
the cost of capital14 and broadening the tax base to eliminate tax-induced economic
distortions by eliminating special-interest tax credits, deductions, and exclusions.
Tax compliance costs will decline precipitously if the tax system is substantially
simplified
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Amazing...

The first five words and the number 2025 of Trump's message you quoted originally says exactly that: "I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PROJECT 2025".

You are bold in posting that crap though, I'll give you that... Again, our lying eyes...

This sounds somewhat similar to him claiming he knew nothing about David Duke when asked if he would distance himself from him after getting his endorsement in 2016 despite his history of condemning Duke's racist views
« Last Edit: July 06, 2024, 06:57:53 pm by LMAO »
I have little interest in streamlining government or in making it more efficient, for I mean to reduce its size. I do not undertake to promote welfare, for I propose to extend freedom. My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them.

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$128,200,000,000,000 ($128.2 trillion)

Liability per Taxpayer

$986,913 (129.9 MM taxpayers)

Liability per Person

$381,547 (336MM people)

https://www.mainstreeteconomics.org/
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