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You all will never believe the stats. Blind partisanship.

Every month more article are coming out showing unvaccinated had  a greater death count, not just in the US but every country in the world.

There are conservatives who are now coming around though and changing their tune. Slim amount but growing.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/severe-covid-19-death-lowest-far-among-vaccinated-canadians


North Dakota:  unvacinated 12x greater death Far from a,liberal state

https://www.kxnet.com/news/nd-doh-data-unvaccinated-people-hospitalized-for-covid-19-at-12x-the-rate-of-vaccinated/

South Dakota  far cfrm aliberal state  '"Most deaths are among the unvaccinated"

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/news-and-information/state-sees-most-hospitalizations-since-last-winter/
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You all will never believe the stats. Blind partisanship.

Every month more article are coming out showing unvaccinated had  a greater death count, not just in the US but every country in the world.

There are conservatives who are now coming around though and changing their tune. Slim amount but growing.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/severe-covid-19-death-lowest-far-among-vaccinated-canadians

And where are the statistics on those who've been harmed by unnecessary vaccines?  Single-entry bookkeeping is so f**king typical for fascist leftists like you.

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You all will never believe the stats. Blind partisanship.

Au contraire.  I do believe the stats.  And the stats do not support the claim you are making.  Read them yourself.  There's a pretty little chart.  Check out the left axis.  They use the same population group.  Or are you blind?


You all will never believe the stats. Blind partisanship.

Every month more article are coming out showing unvaccinated had  a greater death count, not just in the US but every country in the world.

There are conservatives who are now coming around though and changing their tune. Slim amount but growing.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/severe-covid-19-death-lowest-far-among-vaccinated-canadians

Cases in Canada spiked dramatically in Jan-Feb 2022, many months after the 'vaccine'[sic] program had been initiated.  Your source above narrows in on one span in 2021 while ignoring any long term affects.  To put it bluntly, it is complete bullshit.  But hey, since when have you ever cared on what the statistics actually show?  Maybe you can explain how all those deaths in 2022 among 'vaccinated' [sic] Canadians shouldn't be counted.


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And where are the statistics on those who've been harmed by unnecessary vaccines?  Single-entry bookkeeping is so f**king typical for fascist leftists like you.

The vaccines did cause some deaths and injuries. All vaccines do. Polio vaccine killed people and hurt many people. The vaccines helped more than hurt.

I love it when some old geezer says my 83 year old wife had a stroke 6 months after the damn clot shot. Spouting off without any evidence. No you old geezer, your wife was 82 and was probably  going to have a stroke anyway.

Just like on FR, every single death of an celebrity or a famous athlete below age 95 is caused by the clot shot when i most cases after a few weeks it comes back as a suicide or drug overdose.

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The vaccines did cause some deaths and injuries. All vaccines do. Polio vaccine killed people and hurt many people. The vaccines helped more than hurt.

I love it when some old geezer says my 83 year old wife had a stroke 6 months after the damn clot shot. Spouting off without any evidence. No you old geezer, your wife was 82 and was probably  going to have a stroke anyway.

Just like on FR, every single death of an celebrity or a famous athlete below age 95 is caused by the clot shot when i most cases after a few weeks it comes back as a suicide or drug overdose.

And yet, like all fascist leftists, you prefer to focus on the alleged "benefits" of the vaccines to justify forcing those vaccines on everyone.  GFY you repulsive fascist.

On top of which, COVID was not anything like polio, or any other actual serious disease.  COVID 19 was nothing more than a nastier-than-usual flu, and should have been treated that way.  But no, fascists like you managed to lie about it and turn it into something it never was.
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North Dakota:  unvacinated 12x greater death Far from a,liberal state

https://www.kxnet.com/news/nd-doh-data-unvaccinated-people-hospitalized-for-covid-19-at-12x-the-rate-of-vaccinated/

From your link (which you clearly did not bother to read):

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Njau says from January to July 9 this year, there have been 707 people who were not vaccinated hospitalized for COVID-19. During that same period, 57 who had been vaccinated were hospitalized for the virus. In other words, those unvaccinated were about 12 times more likely to be hospitalized.

Exact same population group, as was pointed out to you earlier.  With unvaccinated people making up a much larger portion of that population, it is only natural that a larger portion of those being hospitalized being among that group.

Incidentally, North Dakota's vaccine rollout to the general population began on March 29, 2021.  So anyone hospitalized before that date would be included in that 707 number.  But hey, why waste time looking at stats when some fellow DU poster handed you off some spiffy links to post?
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And yet, like all fascist leftists, you prefer to focus on the alleged "benefits" of the vaccines to justify forcing those vaccines on everyone.  GFY you repulsive fascist.

That's about right. I don't give a single f*** that it's 'for my own good' Or that it 'turned out to be right' - None of which I believe. But all that is aside.

What is on point is that they tried to make me do it. They tried to force me into taking that shit.
I don't care about the benefits.
It's the force that's the problem.
Even when it's 'for your own good'...
Which is never true.

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  Maybe you can explain how all those deaths in 2022 among 'vaccinated' [sic] Canadians shouldn't be counted.

Same as the US and everywhere else. Most who died of covid and were vaccinated had multiple comorbidities, very ill or very old.  Science admits to that. The vaccine cannot help everyone. Covid deaths among vaccinated went up because  a greater amount of population  were vaccinated. A certain amount of th population are in ill health and no vaccine will help them.

Every state publishes their covid deaths from day 1 to the present and give the stats who was vaccinated or not. Nearly all show unvaccinated at a greater death rate or a higher hospitalization rate

I listened to  my doctor as to take the vac or not. I do  not take medical advice from anon posters on the internet who are retired security guards or waitreses who have watched a handful of your tube videos and suddenly are an expert in infectious diseases.

Don't want the shot? Good don't take it.

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South Dakota  far cfrm aliberal state  '"Most deaths are among the unvaccinated"

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/news-and-information/state-sees-most-hospitalizations-since-last-winter/

From your other link (which you also clearly did not bother to read):

There are nice charts presented here.  But there is no chart linking 'vaccination' [sic] status with hospitalization status.  The statistics simply aren't there.

We have:

South Dakotans currently infected with COVID

% Of Eligible Pop. Fully Vaccinated

Currently hospitalized with COVID in South Dakota


But we don't have the critical stat - 'How many people currently hospitalized have been 'vaccinated' [sic]?
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And yet, like all fascist leftists, you prefer to focus on the alleged "benefits" of the vaccines to justify forcing those vaccines on everyone.  GFY you repulsive fascist.

Don't hold back, @Kamaji .  Tell us how you really feel.
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Every state publishes their covid deaths from day 1 to the present and give the stats who was vaccinated or not. Nearly all show unvaccinated at a greater death rate or a higher hospitalization rate


OF COURSE. With effective antiviral medicines outlawed, folks who were not treated by those effective antiviral agents died in droves.

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I listened to  my doctor as to take the vac or not.

Oh bullshit. Bonafied, accredited doctors led the charge against the jab.

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Don't hold back, @Kamaji .  Tell us how you really feel.

I think @Kamaji is emerging from his shell. Just a vibe.
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With unvaccinated people making up a much larger portion of that population, it is only natural that a larger portion of those being hospitalized being among that group.


In the article it said after the vaccination program, covid deaths dropped a huge amount.


Depending on the state approc 60-70-80% of the US population has been vaccinated with at least one shot or two.
Like I said, don't take the shot if you do not want it.

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/



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IF I gave a single shit about conversing with trolls, I would point out that there is a HUGE difference between dying OF Covid than dying WITH Covid.
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Most people who died of gunshot wounds between Jan-Jun 2021 were not wearing high heels.  Therefore, people not wearing high heels were several times more likely to die from gunshot wounds than those who received the high heel shoe vaccine.


↑ ↑ ↑ ↑
T H I S
is the argument that is being presented here.
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IF I gave a single shit about conversing with trolls, I would point out that there is a HUGE difference between dying OF Covid than dying WITH Covid.

Yup.  But leftists/fascists don't care, if it advances their agenda.

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In the article it said after the vaccination program, covid deaths dropped a huge amount.

See:  Logical fallacies - Post Hoc argument
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I think @Kamaji is emerging from his shell. Just a vibe.

I think @Kamaji enjoys about the same tolerance level for commie trolls I do. Just a vibe.
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Most people who died of gunshot wounds between Jan-Jun 2021 were not wearing high heels.  Therefore, people not wearing high heels were several times more likely to die from gunshot wounds than those who received the high heel shoe vaccine.


↑ ↑ ↑ ↑
T H I S
is the argument that is being presented here.

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That's right  :beer:

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I think @Kamaji enjoys about the same tolerance level for commie trolls I do. Just a vibe.

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I think @Kamaji is emerging from his shell. Just a vibe.

RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!

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  GFY you repulsive fascist.


How am I a fascist? I said multiple times I do not care  whether someone is vaccinated or not.

Fascist, commie trolls lol. When people are losing an argument out come the insults and such.
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How am I a fascist? I said multiple times I do not care  whether someone is vaccinated or not.

Fascist, commie trolls lol. When people are losing an argument out come the insults and such.

Typically, when some left-winger shows up here making claims that are not supported by facts, we assume they are pushing some sort of agenda.

I personally like to give them the benefit of doubt by exposing the fallacy of their claims just to see if 'truth' matters to them, hoping that once truth is revealed to them that they would reassess their position and determine that maybe perhaps the claim they were pushing lacked validity.  But clearly, that hasn't happened to you.  On several topics already, you have been shown 'truths' that have clearly contradicted your positions.  Yet not once have you acknowledged them.  Not once.

Case in point:  Hydrogen tanks.  A strong case has been made in favor of hydrogen tanks over batteries as a means of storing electricity.  Yet you simply can't come to grips with anything that upsets the emotional stake you have placed on your position.  You will defend battery subsidies to the very last bankrupt end before you would admit that hydrogen tanks provide the superior option.  Because your emotions just couldn't handle forfeiting the high emotional cost you have already vested in your adopted position.  A position 100% derived from you wanting it to be true rather than whether it actually is true.

Same with the Covid jab.  You completely ignore the high rates of Covid infection among the jabbed, the shedding of that virus infecting others, and the fatal side effects of the jab itself.  Your emotions will not allow 'truth' to get in the way of how you 'feel' about things.
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Most people who died of gunshot wounds between Jan-Jun 2021 were not wearing high heels.  Therefore, people not wearing high heels were several times more likely to die from gunshot wounds than those who received the high heel shoe vaccine.



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Typically, when some left-winger shows up here making claims that are not supported by facts, we assume they are pushing some sort of agenda.

I personally like to give them the benefit of doubt by exposing the fallacy of their claims just to see if 'truth' matters to them, hoping that once truth is revealed to them that they would reassess their position and determine that maybe perhaps the claim they were pushing lacked validity.  But clearly, that hasn't happened to you.  On several topics already, you have been shown 'truths' that have clearly contradicted your positions.  Yet not once have you acknowledged them.  Not once.

Case in point:  Hydrogen tanks.  A strong case has been made in favor of hydrogen tanks over batteries as a means of storing electricity.  Yet you simply can't come to grips with anything that upsets the emotional stake you have placed on your position.  You will defend battery subsidies to the very last bankrupt end before you would admit that hydrogen tanks provide the superior option.  Because your emotions just couldn't handle forfeiting the high emotional cost you have already vested in your adopted position.  A position 100% derived from you wanting it to be true rather than whether it actually is true.

Same with the Covid jab.  You completely ignore the high rates of Covid infection among the jabbed, the shedding of that virus infecting others, and the fatal side effects of the jab itself.  Your emotions will not allow 'truth' to get in the way of how you 'feel' about things.

If hydrogen was viable the car companies would be pushing it. Hydrogen is unstable, hard to transport and the infrastructure cost is greater than gas. It is also made from petroleum which defeats the purpose of going green and takes a huge amount of electricity to produce Only a few models are out there and the sales are low. One of the selling points of ev's is home charging. Cannot do that with hydrogen.  Tesla was the number one selling car in 2023 in the entire world. . In the meantime you will see more hybrids than eventually all EV  for most vehicles though gas and diesel will be around for decades to come

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