Fauci: More People in Red States Died from COVID Because of ‘Political Ideology’

[mystery-ak]

Fauci: More People in Red States Died from COVID Because of ‘Political Ideology’

Pam Key 18 Jun 2024

Former White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci said Tuesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that because of “political ideology,” there were more COVID-19 deaths and hospitalizations in red states versus blue states.

Co-host Jonathan Lemire said, “We now head into a moment where because of that divisiveness, it’s become a political issue. Vaccinations in particular have become a political issue where you have not just Donald Trump but other Republicans saying, no, no, don’t take the COVID vaccine. We had other prominent figures saying, no, you should not take other vaccines as well, things that are standard that everyone has perceived for decades. With this much of disinformation and anger and just flat out vaccine hesitancy, how nervous are you about our ability to handle the next pandemic, whatever it might be?”

Fauci said, “I’m very concerned about that because the misinformation and disinformation about absolutely scientifically proven life saving interventions. It’s astonishing to me that so many people by political ideology will make a decision that would actually endanger their lives. The facts are, and as a physician and a scientist, this is very painful to me, that if you look at red states versus blue states, because of people getting less vaccinated because you’re a Republican versus a Democrat, there are more deaths and hospitalizations in red states versus blue states. That’s horrible that that happens, that people suffer and die because of misinformation that’s related to a political ideology.”

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https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/06/18/fauci-more-people-in-red-states-died-from-covid-because-of-political-ideology/

[libertybele]

  you Dr. Evil!    you!

[Hoodat]

Top three states by fatality rate:

Pennsylvania - 1.44 %
Michigan - 1.35%
Nevada - 1.35%


Bottom three:

Hawaii - 0.52%
Utah - 0.50%
Alaska - 0.49%

[catfish1957]

COVID didn't ask the victim their ideology.

Red, blue, purple, ...  I don't care, just as long as Fauxci dies in jail.

[Bigun]

Top three states by fatality rate:

Pennsylvania - 1.44 %
Michigan - 1.35%
Nevada - 1.35%


Bottom three:

Hawaii - 0.52%
Utah - 0.50%
Alaska - 0.49%

Those numbers were enough to allow an election to be stolen.

[The_Reader_David]

A solid interviewer would have asked him to square that notion with the fact that Sweden (which has a more urbanized population than the US or UK) that followed the Great Barrington declaration approach (protect the vulnerable, no mask mandate, no lockdowns, encouragement to allow work from home, no school shut-downs) -- favored, usually in vain, by red state "ideologues" (only North Dakota managed to never impose a mask mandate) --  had a lower fatality rate than the US or UK that took his approach.

[240B]

The Red States refused to kneel before me.
They refused to OBEY my commandments.

[GtHawk]

First, lying POS Evil Elf! Second just think how many would be alive if not for his restricting what doctors could prescribe that actually worked.

[banddag]

Texas Dept of health run by a Republican governor, state  legislature and a conservative head of the Health Dept. Why would they lie?   Even Ron Desantis Florida Dept of health had the same stats. A new study released by the Texas Department of State Health Services shows that during the month of September, Texans not vaccinated against COVID-19 were about 20 times more likely to suffer a COVID-19-associated death and 13 times more likely to test positive than people who were fully vaccinated.  See link below.

EVERY credible medical  journal is now coming out with stats showing red areas died of covid greater per capita than blue areas.

A few years back a woman posted on FR showing liberals  on  reddit and other sites saying they were going on conservative sites in an organized manner  making and spreading anti vax comments to spread misinformation so conservatives died. I wish I saved her link. She was trashed by the  anti vax crowd on FR

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-data-shows-unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20released%20by,people%20who%20were%20fully%20vaccinated.

Did the vax cause some deaths and injuries? Probably did.  No vax is 100% safe but it saved more lives than hurt.

Conservatives tend to be doom and gloomers and believe propaganda more. Why there are all the gold, generator ads, 25 year food supplies ads lon Fox but no other channels.

[Smokin Joe]

The Red States refused to kneel before me.
They refused to OBEY my commandments.

Yeah, how dare they not kneel before SCIENCE^TM

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1797414465685626896

[Julius Agricola]

I am not claiming to be more wise than the average person, but I was suspicious from the start of the whole "scamdemic."  I wish more people would have immediately come forward and participated in civil disobedience by not wearing masks, not observing the 6ft guidelines, keeping their businesses open.  I am not criticizing those who did not, but I did and felt kind of lonely at times.

After that whole episode in our country I now have zero trust in most (not all) of the medical profession, government officials, and my own community.  It was really eye opening for me to see how the government as a whole really only cares about power and control.  I thought there were a lot more individuals in the government who truly had the best interests of the country in mind.

Shame on me.   

[jmyrlefuller]

Top three states by fatality rate:

Pennsylvania - 1.44 %
Michigan - 1.35%
Nevada - 1.35%


Bottom three:

Hawaii - 0.52%
Utah - 0.50%
Alaska - 0.49%

How telling that PA and MI, the former one who let itself get steamrolled by Cuomo, the latter with Whitmer who was just as bad, if not worse—had the worst fatality rate while the three best included a state 2,000 miles from any other state or country, the state with the lowest population density, and the state with one of the highest birth rates—two out of three of which are reliably conservative.

But, of course, anyone who knows anything about how this virus works should not be surprised by any of that.

Nobody was ever going to legislate away an airborne virus and it was a gross abuse of power to even try.

[Bigun]

I am not claiming to be more wise than the average person, but I was suspicious from the start of the whole "scamdemic."  I wish more people would have immediately come forward and participated in civil disobedience by not wearing masks, not observing the 6ft guidelines, keeping their businesses open.  I am not criticizing those who did not, but I did and felt kind of lonely at times.

After that whole episode in our country I now have zero trust in most (not all) of the medical profession, government officials, and my own community.  It was really eye opening for me to see how the government as a whole really only cares about power and control.  I thought there were a lot more individuals in the government who truly had the best interests of the country in mind.

Shame on me.

I have never had a Covid test, worn a mask, taken a Covid vaccine, or done anything else that lent credibility to the Chicom biological attack nor will I.

[GtHawk]

I have never had a Covid test, worn a mask, taken a Covid vaccine, or done anything else that lent credibility to the Chicom biological attack nor will I.

I was basically blackmailed by my son to get it or not see my granddaughters, he his wife and even the little girls had multiple vaccinations (like four) and they all tested positive for Civic multiple times. I refused to get any other s after two, nada he'll of an argument about that with my wife.

[240B]

Yeah, how dare they not kneel before SCIENCE^TM

[240B]

The strangest part of the whole COVID scam was how the Democrats claimed that "questioning science" was unscientific.
The science is settled! To question that the Earth revolves around the sun is heresy! You will be burned at the stake.

The whole entire point of 'real science' is to question prevailing beliefs. It has been this way forever.
But now we are told that science is an 'edict'. Science is more a 'proclamation' than it is actual science.

When politics manages to, by force of law, usurp intellectual curiosity, then the world is doomed to stagnation.

[roamer_1]

I am not claiming to be more wise than the average person, but I was suspicious from the start of the whole "scamdemic."  I wish more people would have immediately come forward and participated in civil disobedience by not wearing masks, not observing the 6ft guidelines, keeping their businesses open.  I am not criticizing those who did not, but I did and felt kind of lonely at times.

After that whole episode in our country I now have zero trust in most (not all) of the medical profession, government officials, and my own community.  It was really eye opening for me to see how the government as a whole really only cares about power and control.  I thought there were a lot more individuals in the government who truly had the best interests of the country in mind.

Shame on me.

I was against the vax and lockdown on general redneck principles. Then the lies... It all turned 'oh, hell no' pretty quickly.

I think I wore a mask maybe a couple times toward the beginning. Mostly I stood hard against it, to the point of confrontation on several occasions. As a matter of course, I pushed back, offering businesses that I would leave at their request, but if that happened I would never darken their door again, and would campaign against them among my peers. Very few in fact insisted to that point. And the same goes for citizens... Karens with shaking fingers got the whole 9 yards.

As to the efficacy... I don't believe these stats. My sis is a whacko-liberal who was living in Chicago at the time, and has since moved to Michigan... She knows a handful of people within her second circle (close friends) that died from COVID. Maybe 10. It was a monster in her life. To this very day, I don't know anyone who died from COVID.

Now, you could cite differences that matter - She lives a city life and I live a rural one... Population density matters for sure. But I think the main difference is that she and her crowd are all vaxxed up, and me and mine were typical horse-paste suckers from the get-go. She suffered loss and lockdown, and I walked free.

So I really don't give  a shit what the stats say.  I lived it. I have stats of my own, confirmed by my own eyes and my own experiences. Everyone I know that got covid got ivermectin right off the bat... and zinc to go with it... And everyone I know had it easy. All of em. It worked, and worked very well.

As to your lonesomeness... I think that's a direct barometer of your community. And a good measurement of a need to relocate among more sensible people... Folks that know how to stand up when the chips are down.

As to yourself, and others like you - I salute you! It is damn hard to walk contrary to the hoard. It is damn hard to stand on principle - To really develop a position and stand upon it... I can admire that.

[Wingnut]

I was basically blackmailed by my son to get it or not see my granddaughters, he his wife and even the little girls had multiple vaccinations (like four) and they all tested positive for Civic multiple times. I refused to get any other s after two, nada he'll of an argument about that with my wife.

I had many friends go through the same thing.  Using grandkids as covid hostages . Take the shot or you will not see your grand children.  Some of my friends had Gen X kids asking us to get the jab, but not too many. When my kid (born in 78) asked, I said hell no. Try and stop me. End of discussion.

But by far, the worst offenders were my friends with Millennial kids.  Probably the worst generation ever spawned and the worst parented generation.

[PeteS in CA]

Worldometers' US page probably shows there was no political party pattern to states' per capita Covid deaths ... though New York and New Jersey might skew that into more deaths per capita were in "Blue" states.

[roamer_1]

Worldometers' US page probably shows there was no political party pattern to states' per capita Covid deaths ... though New York and New Jersey might skew that into more deaths per capita were in "Blue" states.

I don't think it's a party thing. I think it's a city vs. rural thing, that is masked by party as rural folks tend to be Republican, but are not... What they are is Conservative by nature. They are independent, and not followers. Or they are not going to be rural very long.

[Smokin Joe]

I am not claiming to be more wise than the average person, but I was suspicious from the start of the whole "scamdemic."  I wish more people would have immediately come forward and participated in civil disobedience by not wearing masks, not observing the 6ft guidelines, keeping their businesses open.  I am not criticizing those who did not, but I did and felt kind of lonely at times.

After that whole episode in our country I now have zero trust in most (not all) of the medical profession, government officials, and my own community.  It was really eye opening for me to see how the government as a whole really only cares about power and control.  I thought there were a lot more individuals in the government who truly had the best interests of the country in mind.

Shame on me.

Well, at least our state got it right.

[LMAO]

Conservatives tend to be doom and gloomers and believe propaganda more. Why there are all the gold, generator ads, 25 year food supplies ads lon Fox but no other channels.

@banddag

Do you have anything that back that claim? Is there any research that shows that conservatives tend to be more doom and gloom and believe propaganda anymore or less than any other group?

I have spent time on left-wing sites and what you’re saying isn’t entirely true. People tend to be gloom and doom and accept propaganda depending on whether or not their party holds the levers of power. It has nothing to do with ideology

When George W. Bush was president, liberals were making the claim that he won’t leave peacefully after he serves his two terms. He did. And I also heard it when Obama was president that he won’t leave peacefully after his two terms. He did


Liberals were predicting in 2016 the stock market will crash if Donald Trump was elected. Didn’t happen. Paul Krugman predicted that if Donald Trump got elected, we would see a global recession with no end in sight. The economy crashed during Covid, but it quickly recovered at the  end

Donald Trump himself predicted the stock market would crash if Joe Biden won the 2020 election. It didn’t happen

And have you heard of the excessive hyperbole and gloom and doom from from the climate change cult? Over something that has been a natural part of the Earth since there’s been an Earth?


So your claim that somehow conservatives belief propaganda more isn’t really backed up by anything either way


For every right winger who bought the “pizza gate”  story, there’s a left-winger who bought the “Covington kids harassing that Indian” story. And that’s even despite the fact that there was a video showing no such thing happened

[DB]

COVID hit the elderly hardest.

The locations with highest elderly populations took the biggest hit.

Simple fact.

States like Arizona have a higher population of elderly than a state like California for example.

[LMAO]

COVID hit the elderly hardest.

The locations with highest elderly populations took the biggest hit.

Simple fact.

States like Arizona have a higher population of elderly than a state like California for example.

The constitutional rights of the citizenry that were trampled on over this virus and how Americans went along with it so willingly is very depressing

It was done under the banner of “for your own good”

People die in pandemics. That’s a sad painful reality. And the elderly were one of the most vulnerable groups. Protect the vulnerable as much as you can. And if you’re sick, stay home. But we went way beyond that for not really much in return

[roamer_1]

The constitutional rights of the citizenry that were trampled on over this virus and how Americans went along with it so willingly is very depressing

Actually, it's to be expected. Historically, 70% are sheep.
It's always the other 30% that move and shake.
Of them, about half are evil or criminal. They're the wolves.
About 15% of any population have always been the ones steering in the right direction.
They're the sheep dogs.

It's how it works.

[Kamaji]

A solid interviewer would have asked him to square that notion with the fact that Sweden (which has a more urbanized population than the US or UK) that followed the Great Barrington declaration approach (protect the vulnerable, no mask mandate, no lockdowns, encouragement to allow work from home, no school shut-downs) -- favored, usually in vain, by red state "ideologues" (only North Dakota managed to never impose a mask mandate) --  had a lower fatality rate than the US or UK that took his approach.

[SZonian]

Texas Dept of health run by a Republican governor, state  legislature and a conservative head of the Health Dept. Why would they lie?   Even Ron Desantis Florida Dept of health had the same stats. A new study released by the Texas Department of State Health Services shows that during the month of September, Texans not vaccinated against COVID-19 were about 20 times more likely to suffer a COVID-19-associated death and 13 times more likely to test positive than people who were fully vaccinated.  See link below.

EVERY credible medical  journal is now coming out with stats showing red areas died of covid greater per capita than blue areas.

A few years back a woman posted on FR showing liberals  on  reddit and other sites saying they were going on conservative sites in an organized manner  making and spreading anti vax comments to spread misinformation so conservatives died. I wish I saved her link. She was trashed by the  anti vax crowd on FR

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-data-shows-unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20released%20by,people%20who%20were%20fully%20vaccinated.

Did the vax cause some deaths and injuries? Probably did.  No vax is 100% safe but it saved more lives than hurt.

Conservatives tend to be doom and gloomers and believe propaganda more. Why there are all the gold, generator ads, 25 year food supplies ads lon Fox but no other channels.

You almost had me until your last swipe.

The "propaganda" was foisted upon the nation by the gov't and complicit media and the liberals ate it up. The proof is in how they approached this whole thing. Why were doctors prohibited, at risk of losing their licenses to practice, to recommend any other treatments? Especially "horse paste" as the aholes in gov't and media called a medicine that won the Nobel Prize for medicine. A paste that had demonstrated efficacy when combined with other readily available OTC supplements at practically no risk to the individuals? Where were the 2 minute commercials with 20 seconds of "why this is good for you" and 1:40 of the side effects/risks of the vaunted "vaccines" (which the definition of had to be changed btw)?
Take your BS elsewhere.

[roamer_1]

Let us not forget:

'Lies, damned lies, and statistics...'

[Hoodat]

Texas Dept of health run by a Republican governor, state  legislature and.  .  . 

@banddag

Here was my response the last time you posted this crap:

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-data-shows-unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19

Suspiciously absent from your link is any actual data that backs up the claim.

And here we are 5½ weeks later.  And you still haven't produced one scintilla of evidence backing up your claim.  Just the same old link with zero support.

You seem quite adept at parroting DNC lies.  But woefully inadequate in digging below the surface.

[banddag]

As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

When it first was published it linked to the stats. Why would they lie about it?  All the people in charge are conservative Republicans from the governor on down. You do know this release is from Texas Dept of health and not Big Pharma or the fed gov't?

It is clear in the link I posted what they said. Unvacinated people had way higher death rates in Texas versus vaccinated.

I have now noticed as the truth is coming out that red states per capita had greater covid deaths now the conspiracy theorist are saying the big pharm co's sent bad vaccines  to red states to kill off conservatives. Pushing the goal post.

UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

[Kamaji]

As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

When it first was published it linked to the stats. Why would they lie about it?  All the people in charge are conservative Republicans from the governor on down. You do know this release is from Texas Dept of health and not Big Pharma or the fed gov't?

It is clear in the link I posted what they said. Unvacinated people had way higher death rates in Texas versus vaccinated.

I have now noticed as the truth is coming out that red states per capita had greater covid deaths now the conspiracy theorist are saying the big pharm co's sent bad vaccines  to red states to kill off conservatives. Pushing the goal post.

UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

Look at what the trashman dragged back in.

[roamer_1]

As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

When it first was published it linked to the stats. Why would they lie about it?  All the people in charge are conservative Republicans from the governor on down. You do know this release is from Texas Dept of health and not Big Pharma or the fed gov't?

It is clear in the link I posted what they said. Unvacinated people had way higher death rates in Texas versus vaccinated.

I have now noticed as the truth is coming out that red states per capita had greater covid deaths now the conspiracy theorist are saying the big pharm co's sent bad vaccines  to red states to kill off conservatives. Pushing the goal post.

UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

Why the hell would you believe a damn thing coming out of Austin Texas?

[DB]

A couple of points...

More people died after the "vaccine" came out than before. This fact can't be covered up with bogus statistics. If the shot was effective, you'd expect the death rate to rapidly decline. It didn't.

And, the COVID death count data is hopelessly corrupt. People were counted as COVID deaths in car accidents, etc... People were also counted as "unvaccinated" that died within a few weeks of getting the shot - even when it was the shot that killed them.

[Wingnut]

Look at what the trashman dragged back in.

I don't know why a guy like Retread who lives in Pennsylvania would give two hoots about phony data coming out of The San Francisco of TX.

[Bigun]

Trolls gotta troll!

[mystery-ak]

Whoopi Goldberg on Fauci: ‘One of the Classiest People I’ve Ever Watched’

Co-host Whoopi Goldberg said Thursday on ABC’s “The View” that former White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci is “one of the classiest people.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/06/20/whoopi-goldberg-on-fauci-one-of-the-classiest-people-ive-ever-watched/

[PeteS in CA]

Whoopi Goldberg on Fauci: ‘One of the Classiest People I’ve Ever Watched’

Co-host Whoopi Goldberg said Thursday on ABC’s “The View” that former White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci is “one of the classiest people.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/06/20/whoopi-goldberg-on-fauci-one-of-the-classiest-people-ive-ever-watched/

  Consider the source.

[Hoodat]

As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

So basically, you want me to dig up your evidence for you since you are too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.

[Kamaji]

So basically, you want me to dig up your evidence for you since you are too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.

Like most leftists.

[banddag]

So basically, you want me to dig up your evidence for you since you are too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.

I have come to the conclusion you have a mental illness and also a flat out liar. You do not have to dig up the evidence for me. I showed where the link was within the TDH article. If you are too stupid to click on the link I cannot help you.

I posted this update  a few minutes after my post. You failed to post this though. You are nothing but a liar. The link to the stats is right within the TDP article.

 UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

[banddag]

Trolls gotta troll!

Prove the Texas Dept of Health Wrong. You cannot, so you name call.

[Hoodat]

Prove the Texas Dept of Health Wrong. You cannot, so you name call.

Uh, the burden of proof is on you.  You're the one who made the claim.  Stop asking others to prove a negative when you are too damn lazy or ignorant to back up what you claim.

[banddag]

I don't know why a guy like Retread who lives in Pennsylvania would give two hoots about phony data coming out of The San Francisco of TX.

Gov. Abbot, Rep legislature, staunch conservative head of TDH is allowing liberals out of Austin to post this if it was misinformation?  You folks are delusional.

[banddag]

Uh, the burden of proof is on you.  You're the one who made the claim.  Stop asking others to prove a negative when you are too damn lazy or ignorant to back up what you claim.

Here ya go. Took me less than 2 minutes to get the link.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-2019/covid-19-vaccine-information/covid-19-cases-deaths

[roamer_1]

Gov. Abbot, Rep legislature, staunch conservative head of TDH is allowing liberals out of Austin to post this if it was misinformation?  You folks are delusional.

No... You are ignorant. Let me explain.  Just because it is a red state does not mean the state apparatus or it's colleges, or a thousand other things are in fact red too. That ain't how it works.

Austin Texas has been whacko-liberal for as long as I can remember. So ANYTHING coming out of Austin that is not endorsed specifically is automatically rejected. Much like California before it went liberal - Nobody paid any mind to what was coming out of Sacramento for years.

So your offering is automatically rejectable from the source- No one is going to believe their shit without acres of backing, or specific blessing from Conservative sources.

[Hoodat]

Here ya go. Took me less than 2 minutes to get the link.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-2019/covid-19-vaccine-information/covid-19-cases-deaths

These statistics are based on total population and are not relegated to the specific populations that your claim addresses.

Example:  Consider a population of 100,000.  Out of that population, lets say that 990 are 'vaccinated' [sic] and 99,000 are not.  Now let's say out of the 'vaccinated' [sic] group that 500 die.  And out of the non-vaccinated group, a thousand die.  Your stats would say that the unvaccinated die at nearly double the rate as the vaccinated.  Yet in reality, the stats say that 50% of 'vaccinated' [sic] people die while only 1% of unvaccinated people died.  Nice try though.

[banddag]

These statistics are based on total population and are not relegated to the specific populations that your claim addresses.

Example:  Consider a population of 100,000.  Out of that population, lets say that 990 are 'vaccinated' [sic] and 99,000 are not.  Now let's say out of the 'vaccinated' [sic] group that 500 die.  And out of the non-vaccinated group, a thousand die.  Your stats would say that the unvaccinated die at nearly double the rate as the vaccinated.  Yet in reality, the stats say that 50% of 'vaccinated' [sic] people die while only 1% of unvaccinated people died.  Nice try though.

Oh here we go again. Misinterpreting the data on purpose.

[Kamaji]

Trolls gotta troll.

[Hoodat]

Oh here we go again. Misinterpreting the data on purpose.

I take it that you failed to review the data yourself before posting.  Typical.  (See:  Intellectual laziness)