Author Topic: Fauci: More People in Red States Died from COVID Because of ‘Political Ideology’  (Read 12314 times)

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The constitutional rights of the citizenry that were trampled on over this virus and how Americans went along with it so willingly is very depressing

Actually, it's to be expected. Historically, 70% are sheep.
It's always the other 30% that move and shake.
Of them, about half are evil or criminal. They're the wolves.
About 15% of any population have always been the ones steering in the right direction.
They're the sheep dogs.

It's how it works.

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A solid interviewer would have asked him to square that notion with the fact that Sweden (which has a more urbanized population than the US or UK) that followed the Great Barrington declaration approach (protect the vulnerable, no mask mandate, no lockdowns, encouragement to allow work from home, no school shut-downs) -- favored, usually in vain, by red state "ideologues" (only North Dakota managed to never impose a mask mandate) --  had a lower fatality rate than the US or UK that took his approach.

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Texas Dept of health run by a Republican governor, state  legislature and a conservative head of the Health Dept. Why would they lie?   Even Ron Desantis Florida Dept of health had the same stats. A new study released by the Texas Department of State Health Services shows that during the month of September, Texans not vaccinated against COVID-19 were about 20 times more likely to suffer a COVID-19-associated death and 13 times more likely to test positive than people who were fully vaccinated.  See link below.

EVERY credible medical  journal is now coming out with stats showing red areas died of covid greater per capita than blue areas.

A few years back a woman posted on FR showing liberals  on  reddit and other sites saying they were going on conservative sites in an organized manner  making and spreading anti vax comments to spread misinformation so conservatives died. I wish I saved her link. She was trashed by the  anti vax crowd on FR

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-data-shows-unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19#:~:text=A%20new%20study%20released%20by,people%20who%20were%20fully%20vaccinated.

Did the vax cause some deaths and injuries? Probably did.  No vax is 100% safe but it saved more lives than hurt.

Conservatives tend to be doom and gloomers and believe propaganda more. Why there are all the gold, generator ads, 25 year food supplies ads lon Fox but no other channels.

You almost had me until your last swipe.

The "propaganda" was foisted upon the nation by the gov't and complicit media and the liberals ate it up. The proof is in how they approached this whole thing. Why were doctors prohibited, at risk of losing their licenses to practice, to recommend any other treatments? Especially "horse paste" as the aholes in gov't and media called a medicine that won the Nobel Prize for medicine. A paste that had demonstrated efficacy when combined with other readily available OTC supplements at practically no risk to the individuals? Where were the 2 minute commercials with 20 seconds of "why this is good for you" and 1:40 of the side effects/risks of the vaunted "vaccines" (which the definition of had to be changed btw)?
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Let us not forget:

'Lies, damned lies, and statistics...'

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Texas Dept of health run by a Republican governor, state  legislature and.  .  . 

@banddag

Here was my response the last time you posted this crap:


https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/texas-data-shows-unvaccinated-people-20-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19

Suspiciously absent from your link is any actual data that backs up the claim.

And here we are 5½ weeks later.  And you still haven't produced one scintilla of evidence backing up your claim.  Just the same old link with zero support.

You seem quite adept at parroting DNC lies.  But woefully inadequate in digging below the surface.
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As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

When it first was published it linked to the stats. Why would they lie about it?  All the people in charge are conservative Republicans from the governor on down. You do know this release is from Texas Dept of health and not Big Pharma or the fed gov't?

It is clear in the link I posted what they said. Unvacinated people had way higher death rates in Texas versus vaccinated.

I have now noticed as the truth is coming out that red states per capita had greater covid deaths now the conspiracy theorist are saying the big pharm co's sent bad vaccines  to red states to kill off conservatives. Pushing the goal post.

UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2024, 01:44:38 pm by banddag »

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As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

When it first was published it linked to the stats. Why would they lie about it?  All the people in charge are conservative Republicans from the governor on down. You do know this release is from Texas Dept of health and not Big Pharma or the fed gov't?

It is clear in the link I posted what they said. Unvacinated people had way higher death rates in Texas versus vaccinated.

I have now noticed as the truth is coming out that red states per capita had greater covid deaths now the conspiracy theorist are saying the big pharm co's sent bad vaccines  to red states to kill off conservatives. Pushing the goal post.

UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

Look at what the trashman dragged back in.

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As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

When it first was published it linked to the stats. Why would they lie about it?  All the people in charge are conservative Republicans from the governor on down. You do know this release is from Texas Dept of health and not Big Pharma or the fed gov't?

It is clear in the link I posted what they said. Unvacinated people had way higher death rates in Texas versus vaccinated.

I have now noticed as the truth is coming out that red states per capita had greater covid deaths now the conspiracy theorist are saying the big pharm co's sent bad vaccines  to red states to kill off conservatives. Pushing the goal post.

UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

Why the hell would you believe a damn thing coming out of Austin Texas?

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A couple of points...

More people died after the "vaccine" came out than before. This fact can't be covered up with bogus statistics. If the shot was effective, you'd expect the death rate to rapidly decline. It didn't.

And, the COVID death count data is hopelessly corrupt. People were counted as COVID deaths in car accidents, etc... People were also counted as "unvaccinated" that died within a few weeks of getting the shot - even when it was the shot that killed them.


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Look at what the trashman dragged back in.

I don't know why a guy like Retread who lives in Pennsylvania would give two hoots about phony data coming out of The San Francisco of TX.
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Whoopi Goldberg on Fauci: ‘One of the Classiest People I’ve Ever Watched’

Co-host Whoopi Goldberg said Thursday on ABC’s “The View” that former White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci is “one of the classiest people.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/06/20/whoopi-goldberg-on-fauci-one-of-the-classiest-people-ive-ever-watched/
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Whoopi Goldberg on Fauci: ‘One of the Classiest People I’ve Ever Watched’

Co-host Whoopi Goldberg said Thursday on ABC’s “The View” that former White House chief medical advisor Anthony Fauci is “one of the classiest people.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2024/06/20/whoopi-goldberg-on-fauci-one-of-the-classiest-people-ive-ever-watched/

 :silly: Consider the source. :silly:
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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As I told you before, Contact the Texas Dept of health and I am sure they will send you the stats if you ask or can direct you to the right person.. The link was from 2021 and you do know they take off old info/messages and add new all the time on homepages ..but you know that. You just want to be difficult.

So basically, you want me to dig up your evidence for you since you are too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.
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So basically, you want me to dig up your evidence for you since you are too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.

Like most leftists.

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So basically, you want me to dig up your evidence for you since you are too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.

I have come to the conclusion you have a mental illness and also a flat out liar. You do not have to dig up the evidence for me. I showed where the link was within the TDH article. If you are too stupid to click on the link I cannot help you.

I posted this update  a few minutes after my post. You failed to post this though. You are nothing but a liar. The link to the stats is right within the TDP article.

 UPDAGTE: Actually if you would read the news release the stats are  at the bottom of the TDH news release:   A summary with a link to the full analysis, including data from a January 15 through Oct. 1 period, is available on the Covid-19 webpage.

« Last Edit: June 23, 2024, 04:14:42 pm by banddag »

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Trolls gotta troll!

Prove the Texas Dept of Health Wrong. You cannot, so you name call.

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Prove the Texas Dept of Health Wrong. You cannot, so you name call.

Uh, the burden of proof is on you.  You're the one who made the claim.  Stop asking others to prove a negative when you are too damn lazy or ignorant to back up what you claim.
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I don't know why a guy like Retread who lives in Pennsylvania would give two hoots about phony data coming out of The San Francisco of TX.
Gov. Abbot, Rep legislature, staunch conservative head of TDH is allowing liberals out of Austin to post this if it was misinformation?  You folks are delusional.
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Uh, the burden of proof is on you.  You're the one who made the claim.  Stop asking others to prove a negative when you are too damn lazy or ignorant to back up what you claim.

Here ya go. Took me less than 2 minutes to get the link.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-2019/covid-19-vaccine-information/covid-19-cases-deaths

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Gov. Abbot, Rep legislature, staunch conservative head of TDH is allowing liberals out of Austin to post this if it was misinformation?  You folks are delusional.

No... You are ignorant. Let me explain.  Just because it is a red state does not mean the state apparatus or it's colleges, or a thousand other things are in fact red too. That ain't how it works.

Austin Texas has been whacko-liberal for as long as I can remember. So ANYTHING coming out of Austin that is not endorsed specifically is automatically rejected. Much like California before it went liberal - Nobody paid any mind to what was coming out of Sacramento for years.

So your offering is automatically rejectable from the source- No one is going to believe their shit without acres of backing, or specific blessing from Conservative sources.

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Here ya go. Took me less than 2 minutes to get the link.

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/covid-19-coronavirus-disease-2019/covid-19-vaccine-information/covid-19-cases-deaths

These statistics are based on total population and are not relegated to the specific populations that your claim addresses.

Example:  Consider a population of 100,000.  Out of that population, lets say that 990 are 'vaccinated' [sic] and 99,000 are not.  Now let's say out of the 'vaccinated' [sic] group that 500 die.  And out of the non-vaccinated group, a thousand die.  Your stats would say that the unvaccinated die at nearly double the rate as the vaccinated.  Yet in reality, the stats say that 50% of 'vaccinated' [sic] people die while only 1% of unvaccinated people died.  Nice try though.
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These statistics are based on total population and are not relegated to the specific populations that your claim addresses.

Example:  Consider a population of 100,000.  Out of that population, lets say that 990 are 'vaccinated' [sic] and 99,000 are not.  Now let's say out of the 'vaccinated' [sic] group that 500 die.  And out of the non-vaccinated group, a thousand die.  Your stats would say that the unvaccinated die at nearly double the rate as the vaccinated.  Yet in reality, the stats say that 50% of 'vaccinated' [sic] people die while only 1% of unvaccinated people died.  Nice try though.


Oh here we go again. Misinterpreting the data on purpose.

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Oh here we go again. Misinterpreting the data on purpose.

I take it that you failed to review the data yourself before posting.  Typical.  (See:  Intellectual laziness)
If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power.     -Dwight Eisenhower-

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