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Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old construc
« on: June 17, 2024, 06:26:40 pm »

Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old construction pipes: The doomed Titan sub 'red flags' as experts reveal all the key mistakes before tragedy struck

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By EMILY JANE DAVIES
17 June 2024

One year ago tomorrow, the doomed Titan submersible embarked on a trip to visit the wreckage of the Titanic.

British billionaire Hamish Harding, OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush, French navy veteran PH Nargeolet and Pakistani businessman Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman, who was just 19, were all onboard.

Tragically, it was reported as missing and after a desperate race against time before the oxygen ran out, only the debris and 'presumed human remains' were found.

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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2024, 06:54:26 pm »
I don't care that it was controlled by a game controller.
I don't care that it used 'camp lights'.
I don't care what it used for ballast.None of those things are reasons for criticism.

I admire innovation. And that is often what innovation looks like.

What I DO care about is the failure. And how that failure may have interacted with their innovations.
That's the only legitimate b*tch.

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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2024, 06:59:45 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 17, 2024, 06:54:26 pm
I don't care that it was controlled by a game controller.
I don't care that it used 'camp lights'.
I don't care what it used for ballast.None of those things are reasons for criticism.

I admire innovation. And that is often what innovation looks like.

What I DO care about is the failure. And how that failure may have interacted with their innovations.
That's the only legitimate b*tch.

I agree. Whoever came up with that dooshy comment about the ballast doesn't understand what those deep diving subs do with their ballast.

When they're done at the bottom they dump their ballast and leave it behind.

Some subs use custom made containers filled with lead that cost a bundle of money every time they descend.

Using inexpensive items for workable ballast makes a ton of sense. Ditto with using off the shelf controllers and lights. Who cares so long as they work?
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2024, 07:26:55 pm »
Stockton Rush was an arrogant ass according to this article...and it not only killed him, but 4 others.

https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-inside-story-oceangate-files/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2024, 07:48:45 pm »
Quote from: SZonian on June 17, 2024, 07:26:55 pm
Stockton Rush was an arrogant ass according to this article...and it not only killed him, but 4 others.

https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-inside-story-oceangate-files/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us
He was not 'arrogant'. He was psychotic, with a death wish. And he took others with him.
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2024, 07:54:48 pm »
Quote from: 240B on June 17, 2024, 07:48:45 pm
He was not 'arrogant'. He was psychotic, with a death wish. And he took others with him.

To his credit he put his life on the line to prove/disprove the worth of his submarine. That's got to count for something.
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2024, 07:59:03 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on June 17, 2024, 07:54:48 pm
To his credit he put his life on the line to prove/disprove the worth of his submarine. That's got to count for something.

It would. Them that can brag, let em.
But he was wrong.  :shrug:
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2024, 08:38:02 pm »
Quote from: 240B on June 17, 2024, 07:48:45 pm
He was not 'arrogant'. He was psychotic, with a death wish. And he took others with him.
Agreed...
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2024, 08:43:13 pm »
All the Submarine engineers, all the aerospace engineers, all the marine safety experts were telling him, "You are going to die!" This garage 'thing' that you built will not survive at depth. He fired, sued, and dismissed all of them, just before his death.
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2024, 09:07:29 pm »
Quote from: SZonian on June 17, 2024, 07:26:55 pm
Stockton Rush was an arrogant ass according to this article...and it not only killed him, but 4 others.

https://www.wired.com/story/titan-submersible-disaster-inside-story-oceangate-files/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us
Well, I bet he won't do that again.
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2024, 01:58:37 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on June 17, 2024, 09:07:29 pm
Well, I bet he won't do that again.

Some mistakes take you right out of the gene pool.  :shrug:
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2024, 01:13:09 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 17, 2024, 07:59:03 pm
It would. Them that can brag, let em.
But he was wrong.  :shrug:

Well...he's not bragging so there's that.
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Re: Piloted by a game controller, fitted with camping shop lights - and a ballast made from old cons
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2024, 06:17:09 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on June 18, 2024, 01:13:09 pm
Well...he's not bragging so there's that.

That's right, and so it goes.
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