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Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit

Simon Kent 13 Jun 2024

G7 leaders will agree on a new $50-billion loan for Ukraine as they gather Thursday for a summit at a plush resort in southern Italy. The funds will come from profits stripped off frozen Russian assets.

AFP reports Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky will fly in to join U.S. President Joe Biden and leaders from Italy, Britain, France, Germany, Canada and Japan for the talks at the luxury Borgo Egnazia resort in Puglia.

The money is destined to to help Kyiv with defence, budgetary support, and reconstruction after more than two years of war with Russia.

The loan would be secured against the future profits from interest on $325 billion of Russian central bank assets frozen by Western allies, the AFP report notes, and be added to the other funding flooding the besieged country from abroad.

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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2024, 10:59:22 am »
Loan? Yeah right, like it will ever be payed back!

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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2024, 05:03:12 pm »
"$50-Billion Loan..."

Loan?
Yup.
Yeah.
Sure...

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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2024, 05:32:55 pm »
"Payday"? Seriously? I take it from Breitbart's grossly tendentious headline that they want Russia to bite off a second chunk of Ukraine and rearm to bite off a third chunk ... or bite off Moldova ... or bite off a Baltic nation or three ... maybe even Poland.
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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2024, 05:48:43 pm »
Sounds like this "loan" is actually coming from frozen Russian assets.

That sounds good. As far as repayment...the Russians started this and tore the country up. If there is a repayment some day down the road that would be a very gracious act by Ukraine.

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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2024, 06:22:49 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2024, 06:28:45 pm »
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The funds will come from profits stripped off frozen Russian assets.

So what's the problem?
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2024, 06:34:04 pm »
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Biden has conscripted the United States into a 10-year war with Russia with his security agreement with Zelensky, who suspended elections and is now Ukraine's de facto dictator.
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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2024, 07:14:13 pm »
That's all hyperbolic nonsense.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2024, 07:51:23 pm »
That's all hyperbolic nonsense.

So are the narratives that Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the world, that Ukrainians are Neo-Nazis, and that Zelensky has two yachts bought with $$ from the West. Facts don't matter to true-believers.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2024, 07:54:28 pm »
So are the narratives that Ukraine is the most corrupt country in the world, that Ukrainians are Neo-Nazis, and that Zelensky has two yachts bought with $$ from the West. Facts don't matter to true-believers.

Those aren't facts because none of that is true.
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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2024, 09:03:00 pm »
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Biden has conscripted the United States into a 10-year war with Russia with his security agreement with Zelensky, who suspended elections and is now Ukraine's de facto dictator.
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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2024, 09:37:20 am »
 Janet Yellen says G7 loan to Ukraine is definitely legal

“There’s no legal issue here,” the Treasury secretary said.



By Mia McCarthy

06/16/2024 12:24 PM EDT

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen said Sunday the G7’s planned $50 billion loan to help Ukraine using frozen Russian assets is not theft, as Russian President Vladimir Putin has branded it.

“There is no sense at all in which it’s theft. The Russian assets remain in this institution. They’ve been impounded,” Yellen said in an interview with host Jonathan Karl on ABC’s “This Week.” “The investments that Russia had have matured. So, Russia’s funds are sitting in cash, but they’re generating income for the institution which Russia has no claim on.”

Last week the G7 conference agreed on a $50 billion loan to help Ukraine using profits generated from Russian assets that were frozen after Russia invaded Ukraine. Though the assets themselves have not been permanently transferred to Western hands, Putin called the action theft and said it is illegal.

“There’s no legal issue here,” Yellen said. “And our allies, our partners, the G7 will provide Ukraine a $50 billion loan, which will be repaid over time from these proceeds. And I’d say the G7 leaders had already made it clear that they will not unfreeze these assets until Russia pays for the damage that it’s cost Ukraine.”

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy was at the summit in Italy and praised the loan.

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Re: Ukraine Payday: G7 to Agree $50-Billion Loan at Italy Summit
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2024, 09:45:25 am »
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2024, 01:36:36 pm »
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Today Biden signed a 10-year agreement with Ukraine, risking another US forever war. By supporting Ukraine's NATO membership, he commits future US servicemembers to Ukraine’s conflicts. It’s time to put America 1st, seek diplomatic solutions, and protect our people and economy.

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As usual like his idiot dad, he is an isolationist a**hole.
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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2024, 01:37:42 pm »

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I am glad to see Rand speaking out.


Rand is wrong. We must weaken Russia even more. 


Russia loses China loses.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2024, 01:50:30 pm »

Rand is wrong. We must weaken Russia even more. 


Russia loses China loses.

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Russia wants to be the neighborhood bully? Then they need to be taken down a notch or two.
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« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2024, 02:39:36 pm »
Russia wants to be the neighborhood bully? Then they need to be taken down a notch or two.

@MeganC  ...  Where is it written that this is the business and responsibility of the US?

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« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2024, 02:41:06 pm »

As usual like his idiot dad, he is an isolationist a**hole.

Nope.  Rand Paul is the future.  Get used to it. 

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The Europeans can't manage their own damn continent's security.  They proved that in Bosnia and Kosovo.

America is helping Ukraine in the hopes that it will avoid American bloodshed neutralizing Russian aggression.

Germany and France would glaldy allow Russians to reclaim much of the Warsaw pact in exchange for cheap Russian natural gas.

If America was not helping Ukraine, in the future, Western Europeans would be asking America to send its sons and daughters to save Europe from itself, for a 3rd time.

Woodrow Wilson sent Americans in Europe in 1917 to protect the investments of France's American creditors.  Thus began America's European entanglements.  The Europeans should have been left to fight it out amongst themselves during Word War I.

@MeganC  ...  Where is it written that this is the business and responsibility of the US?
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Nope.  Rand Paul is the future.  Get used to it.


If Rand is the future of the GOP, then I'm out of the GOP.  Rand's ideals are from the failed America first policies from the 1930s. He is an idiot like his father is.
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@MeganC  ...  Where is it written that this is the business and responsibility of the US?

Here:

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If Rand is the future of the GOP, then I'm out of the GOP.  Rand's ideals are from the failed America first policies from the 1930s. He is an idiot like his father is.

Rand is right about 'America First' but what he misses is that if we want to protect America then we defeat America's threats before they come to America.

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Do we really need a third such date to remind us why we need to deal with our threats before they hit us?
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« Reply #23 on: June 17, 2024, 04:45:24 pm »

If Rand is the future of the GOP, then I'm out of the GOP. 

I had no idea you were in it. 

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« Reply #24 on: June 17, 2024, 04:54:30 pm »

If Rand is the future of the GOP, then I'm out of the GOP.  Rand's ideals are from the failed America first policies from the 1930s. He is an idiot like his father is.



I don't think Rand or Ron are idiots. They really shine in certain areas. Foreign policy isn't one of them. Isolationism won't work at this time. In reality it never has. It's like me building a huge wall around my property and isolating from the neighbors. When the neighborhood falls to hell in a handbasket hoping they are going to skip past me.