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I am pretty much outa here anyway. Too much of masturbatory circle jerk echo chamber. Even when presented with facts that contradicts their narrow misinformed view (in many cases  not all)  it's your a Troll lol


Speaking of being presented with facts, how is it that you still refuse to explain why it is a good idea for taxpayers to subsidize the battery industry when hydrogen tanks are lighter, cheaper, more environmentally friendly, and have a longer range than batteries?
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How about you stop trolling/stalking this member?  Geez...after only 4 replies you got at him...again.

People have the right to maintain different opinions than you.

Wow.  Just wow.  I'm guessing you really can't see how hypocritical your statement is.
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Thank you.

I am pretty much outa here anyway. Too much of masturbatory circle jerk echo chamber. Even when presented with facts that contradicts their narrow misinformed view (in many cases  not all)  it's your a Troll lol

What is scary that even when presented with facts they refuse to believe any different or they put me on ignore. I have admitted here numerous times I was wrong when presented with research.

This is why I have become an independent.

See YA

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Okay then, you made your point with the big bold font.   :seeya:

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Uh, no.  It was a cooling issue, not a warming issue.
Please do some basic internet research

What happened to the Georgia peach crop in 2023?
[b]Last year, Georgia lost more than 90% of the peach crop after an abnormally warm winter caused trees to bloom too early. Freezing temps destroyed Georgia's peach crop in 2023.Mar 25, 2024[/b]

Georgia: What can we expect from this year's peach crop? - WJCL
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Speaking of being presented with facts, how is it that you still refuse to explain why it is a good idea for taxpayers to subsidize the battery industry when hydrogen tanks are lighter, cheaper, more environmentally friendly, and have a longer range than batteries?

I am convinced you have mental issue..autism??  I have told you at least 4-5 times. If the car co;s thought  hydrogen tanks were viable they would be pursuing it. They are not. Toyota gave a half arse attempt at it.  How hard is this too  understand.

I will type   SLLOOOOWLLY.. CAR  CO's ARE  NOOOOOTT INNTERESTED IS pUUUURSING IT. Get it?

Hydrogen has way too many faults to be safe, too hard to transport, infrastructure would be a nightmare.

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Even the owner felt the need to warn @sneakypete to stop the insults...yet the reason he went into lurk mode is because the same half-dozen pets in here are given free passes.



Lol

A little Revisionist history

That particular individual had no problem telling posters that they supported the likes of Jeb Bush for not supporting Trump or telling other posters the reason why they didn’t support Trump because he was orange and rude  and that they were jealous of his wealth

Perhaps you’ve forgotten

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We had a very mild,  dry winter.

But the last 10 winters we had average to above average snowfall and average to below average temperatures



And late springs. El Niño gave us a break this year.

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I really wish this was true.  With a 20°F increase in global temperatures, this planet could easily supply enough arable land to support a population of 20 billion.

SMH.  Show a link to incredulous statement. If temps rose 20 degrees the United States  would become  a desert .

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Please do some basic internet research

What happened to the Georgia peach crop in 2023?
Last year, Georgia lost more than 90% of the peach crop after an abnormally warm winter caused trees to bloom too early. Freezing temps destroyed Georgia's peach crop in 2023.Mar 25, 2024[/b]

Georgia: What can we expect from this year's peach crop? - WJCL

I did do some basic internet research.  You did too, except you once again failed to read your own links before posting.
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I am convinced you have mental issue..autism??  I have told you at least 4-5 times. If the car co;s thought  hydrogen tanks were viable they would be pursuing it. They are not. Toyota gave a half arse attempt at it.  How hard is this too  understand.

For the fourth time:  https://www.toyota.com/mirai/


Posted twice already on this thread:

Here's the 2024 model which you have twice now claimed that Toyota has dropped, even after being provided evidence to the contrary.


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:pondering: What is 'garbage land'?

We are supposed to shun fossil fuels for the good of the Earth by using 'green' power generated by equipment that than still kills animals and sea life.

1. garbage land = ex strip mined land, old landfills, land deemed too unsafe to grow anything on it due to past industrial damage-superfund sites

2. Windmills kill approx 250-300 thousand birds per  year,.   Cats, cars. glass windows, high power lines, building kill 2.5 to 3 billion birds er year. Turbine co's are working on ways to stop the bird kills.

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I did do some basic internet research.  You did too, except you once again failed to read your own links before posting.

 Do you understand  how trees bloom-the time frame?

Last year, Georgia lost more than 90% of the peach crop after an abnormally warm winter caused trees to bloom too early and then freeze came along and destroyed the buds

HINT: If GA did not have an abnormally warm winter the buds would not have come out to be killed by the freeze.
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Wow.  Just wow.  I'm guessing you really can't see how hypocritical your statement is.

Arguing about a GOP candidate for the presidency which ultimately proved my prediction was correct...that his presidency was supremely successful despite the enemies in and outside the gates is one thing.

Picking on a member who is insulted as a "troll" in reply 4 herein, after just one of his posts is quite another.

Furthermore, going back 8 plus years to find a similarity as weak as was presented in this thread is beyond ludicrous.

All you guys were tossed from the premier conservative site because of your perverted attraction to Ted Cruz.
You all turned this forum into your own Never Trumper playground because TPTB allowed it in hopes of increasing the membership.

The rest is history.

Have a nice day!  /s

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All you guys were tossed from the premier conservative site because of your perverted attraction to Ted Cruz.


Actually, many of us left on our own accord. Not because of Ted Cruz. But because of the site owner’s demand that everybody get in line and worship Donald Trump

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Posted twice already on this thread:

Here's the 2024 model which you have twice now claimed that Toyota has dropped, even after being provided evidence to the contrary.



If Hydrogen was viable other co;s would be pushing it. Ev' sales have slowed but the sales are still greater than last year

The Toyota Mirai sedan has received a huge price cut in the US, as sales of hydrogen vehicles slow to a crawl. Underwhelming sales of hydrogen-powered vehicles in the USA has led Toyota to hand down an eye-watering price cut to its Mirai sedan, making it less expensive than the popular Camry Hybrid.Feb 29, 2024

Toyota Mirai price cut by 60 per cent as hydrogen demand dies
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Arguing about a GOP candidate for the presidency which ultimately proved my prediction was correct...that his presidency was supremely successful despite the enemies in and outside the gates is one thing.

Picking on a member who is insulted as a "troll" in reply 4 herein, after just one of his posts is quite another.

Furthermore, going back 8 plus years to find a similarity as weak as was presented in this thread is beyond ludicrous.

All you guys were tossed from the premier conservative site because of your perverted attraction to Ted Cruz.
You all turned this forum into your own Never Trumper playground because TPTB allowed it in hopes of increasing the membership.

The rest is history.

Have a nice day!  /s

More proof of your utter hypocricy....   Busted again.  Stuff it!!!!!
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Actually, many of us left on our own accord. Not because of Ted Cruz. But because of the site owner’s demand that everybody get in line and worship Donald Trump

That's certainly true.  But, it's not my intent here to hijack this thread...was merely responding to a bogus charge against me.   :beer:
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That's certainly true.  But, it's not my intent here to hijack this thread...was merely responding to a bogus charge against me.   :beer:

Fair enough

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All you guys were tossed from the premier conservative site because of your perverted attraction to Ted Cruz.

Uh, no.  I got tossed (the second time) for correctly pointing out that Donald Trump was in bed with the GOP Establishment (which was proven true right after taking office).  I got tossed the first time for point out (correctly) that Noot Gingrich was a Progressive Beltway establishment hack.

@LMAO is correct.  The issue wasn't Ted Cruz or Rick Santorum.  The issue was that we refused to swear allegiance to groupthink.  And again for the umpteenth time, I am not anti-Trump.  I'm anti-liberal.  And when Trump decides he doesn't want to be a liberal any more, I will be there to support him.
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Do you understand  how trees bloom-the time frame?

Do you understand how freezing Spring temperatures kill peach buds?
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Do you understand how freezing Spring temperatures kill peach buds?

Are you for real?  Yes, freeze happens every year but the buds were on the trees early due to a abnormally warm winter. If the winter was not abnormally warm the buds would not have developed  on the trees and when the normal freeze  came  they would not have died. Budding happens after the normal freeze each year
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Are you for real?  Yes, freeze happens every year but the buds were on the trees earlydue to a abnormally warm winter. If the winter was not abnormally warm the buds would not have been on the trees and when the normal freeze comes they would not have died. Budding happens after the normal freeze each year
Have you never heard of a "late frost"? We get them into June here, most years.

Sometimes the trees bloom early and their yield is affected by subsequent frosts. Perfectly natural and hardly a sign that the Climate is going awry in any sort of trend. In Bath County, VA there is a little valley known as "Little Egypt" among the locals. In the 1800s, a late frost wiped out the crops in the Back Creek Valley, and those in that little valley fed the larger population of Back Creek Valley, resulting in the name (after Pharoah's grain stores feeding in times of famine).
That's just one example, and hardly an isolated incident. These events are only new causes for panic for those who have no historical perspective and think these sort of events are unique and some sort of portent of evil. If it's early enough, and you can, you replant. Sh*t happens.
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Have you never heard of a "late frost"? We get them into June here, most years.

Sometimes the trees bloom early and their yield is affected by subsequent frosts. Perfectly natural and hardly a sign that the Cli
Yes but in this case the Georgia dept of agriculture blamed it on a abnormally warm winter which caused the buds to come  on early, the normal freeze happened at the time it normally does and the buds died. 
This was not a late frost/freeze.
It is well documented if you want to do the research  yourself , ga peach growers, ga dept of agriculture on and onbecause 90% of the crop was destroyed
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Yes but in this case the Georgia dept of agriculture blamed it on a abnormally warm winter which caused the buds to come  on early, the normal freeze happened and the buds died. 
This was not a late frost/freeze.
It is well documented if you want to do the research  yourself , ga peach growers, ga dept of agriculture on and on.
If the hens won't lay, the cow won't produce milk, the car won't start, hangnails, toe cheese, whatever, we now have the universal boogeyman of Climate Change.

What? Peach growers can't see that the trees have bloomed? They can't run smudge pots or other anti freezing methods to protect their crops? Sounds like poor farming to me...But: "Climate Change" !! (maybe they can get a grant...)
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If the hens won't lay, the cow won't produce milk, the car won't start, hangnails, toe cheese, whatever, we now have the universal boogeyman of Climate Change.

What? Peach growers can't see that the trees have bloomed? They can't run smudge pots or other anti freezing methods to protect their crops? Sounds like poor farming to me...But: "Climate Change" !! (maybe they can get a grant...)

Yeah, go ahead blame the crop loss on the farmers who I am sure did whatever they could to save their crop and not blame climate change. You and hoodat are a hoot

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Yeah, go ahead blame the crop loss on the farmers who I am sure did whatever they could to save their crop and not blame climate change. You and hoodat are a hoot
Blame it on Mrs. Murphy's Vintage Volkswagen!  :silly: :silly: :silly:
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If Hydrogen was viable other co;s would be pushing it. Ev' sales have slowed but the sales are still greater than last year

The Toyota Mirai sedan has received a huge price cut in the US, as sales of hydrogen vehicles slow to a crawl. Underwhelming sales of hydrogen-powered vehicles in the USA has led Toyota to hand down an eye-watering price cut to its Mirai sedan, making it less expensive than the popular Camry Hybrid.Feb 29, 2024

Toyota Mirai price cut by 60 per cent as hydrogen demand dies


You do realize that the Mirai is an EV, right?  And the reason fuel cell cars aren't a viable option is because the federal government is dumping billions of dollars to subsidize the battery industry.  Which again brings us back to the same question, why subsidize batteries when hydrogen fuel cells are the better EV option?  They have better range. They're substantially lighter.  They perform much better in cold weather than battery-powered cars.  And they're better on the environment.
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Are you for real?  Yes, freeze happens every year but the buds were on the trees early due to a abnormally warm winter. If the winter was not abnormally warm the buds would not have developed  on the trees and when the normal freeze  came  they would not have died. Budding happens after the normal freeze each year

Spring freezes are not normal.  You can't have it both ways.
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If the hens won't lay, the cow won't produce milk, the car won't start, hangnails, toe cheese, whatever, we now have the universal boogeyman of Climate Change.

What? Peach growers can't see that the trees have bloomed? They can't run smudge pots or other anti freezing methods to protect their crops? Sounds like poor farming to me...But: "Climate Change" !! (maybe they can get a grant...)

The funny thing is that peaches aren't even a major crop in Georgia.  South Carolina is the peach capital of the South.  Blueberries, melons, pecans, and onions are king in Georgia.
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The funny thing is that peaches aren't even a major crop in Georgia.  South Carolina is the peach capital of the South.  Blueberries, melons, pecans, and onions are king in Georgia.

Didn't know that!  :beer:

As I playfully injected prior, what would be the problem if suddenly the Great Plains could switch from wheat and corn to blueberries, melons, pecans and onions...while North Dakota became our "bread basket"?

Right now, my Costco mandarin oranges are grown in Peru...packaged in Thailand.  happy77

The thread has gotten more interesting...
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I am convinced you have mental issue..autism??  I have told you at least 4-5 times. If the car co;s thought  hydrogen tanks were viable they would be pursuing it. They are not. Toyota gave a half arse attempt at it.  How hard is this too  understand.

I will type   SLLOOOOWLLY.. CAR  CO's ARE  NOOOOOTT INNTERESTED IS pUUUURSING IT. Get it?


Hydrogen has way too many faults to be safe, too hard to transport, infrastructure would be a nightmare.

@banddag

Here's the left wng troll that whines and cries when facts are well layed out rebuking his shit , but lashes  out with personal attacks as well as the next liberal. 

Where's the hypocrite @DCPatriot this time.  I guess he is partial to left wing nuts.


In previous threads Beandoggery failed to respond to:  (conveniently I might add)

1. Why was it warmer a 1000 years ago, to the point Greenland was inhabitable.
2. The skewing and bias of met data where NWS reporting stations are impacted by urban creep. 
3. The fear porn he likes to cite, that is perpetuated by the left wing MSM, sponsored by envir-whacko left wingers who have infested our governents.  This guy is nothing  but a gaslighting Greta T clone, under the guise of a so called conservative.
4. Criminal poor understanding of statistics.  Basing world and life changing decisons toward the worse, based on decades of data?  What a naive fool, not only buying in on the scam, but perpetuating it.
5. Failure to recognize that the ultra left is primarily not only sponsoring this scam, but happily and fraudulently reaping the political capital.
6. Explantion of why some wealthy politicians like Obama have bought $10M+ estates at the coast.  Seem that if they fear imminent doom, they'd bought an alternate abode.
7. Not addressing the stark fact that in academia and in research, that any "denier" is castigated and blacklisted.  I consider  the late Dr. William Gray of CSU as the greatest climatologist of my lifetime. In fact his development of Hurricane Predictive Models became the gold standard.  When he outted the scam, the MSM cultist, and Climate Cabal suddenly and systematically had him blacklisted too.
8. Failing to notice the which factions are screaming the worst.  In fact, last week, the Antifa / Pro-Hamas protesters had the Climate change response near at the top of the list of demands.  Coincidence?

Me? What do I know?   I was just a 40 year Environmental professional.   I was the first in the country, back in '88 to develop computer programs for emissions calculations for governmental reporting. Also including dispersion modeling as well.  Turned down phD nomination too in Env/Met

But you know Beandog's response was?  He virtual signaled a desperate accusation that I was biased because I  worked at an oil company.  That is how desperate his argument has become. 

Don't buy into the misdirection that  he is a disgruntled Conservative turned into a Moderate.  I can spot a left wing disruptor a mile away.
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Spring freezes are not normal.  You can't have it both ways.

Yes they are normal in most GA counties. Williamson cty 1993-2007 This is the history date and temp Fall and Spring freezes from 1993 to 2007 when this article was written. You still will not accept if there was not an abnormally warm winter the buds would not have  been out...but you know this so you twist everything...that is all you have.

Williamson County
2007 7-Nov 28.0    2007 9-Apr 31.2
2006 25-Oct 29.3  2006 27-Mar 29.8
2005 27-Oct 30.6   2005 19-Mar 31.7
2004 16-Nov 28.0  2004 23-Mar 25.6
2003 14-Nov 29.9  2003 31-Mar 27.9
2002 14-Nov 30.5  2002 23-Mar 26.6
2001 28-Oct 26.5   2001 19-Apr 28.1
2000 10-Oct 28.4  2000 10-Apr 30.9
1999 24-Oct 31.8  1999 28-Mar 30.8
1998 24-Oct 30.0  1998 23-Mar 28.3
1997 23-Oct 31.8  1997 18-Apr 30.6
1996 20-Oct 31.7  1996 11-Apr 30.0
1995 4-Nov 30.9   1995 2-Apr 29.6
1994 23-Nov 31.1  1994 1-Apr 28.6
1993 31-Oct 28.5   1993 3-Apr 27.
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why subsidize batteries when hydrogen fuel cells are the better EV option? 

Another barrier to the adoption of hydrogen fuel cars is the high cost of production and storage. Hydrogen gas is primarily obtained through electrolysis, which requires a significant amount of energy. Currently, most hydrogen is produced using fossil fuels, which defeats the purpose of reducing carbon emissions.Oct 24, 2023

Why are we still not seeing hydrogen cars on our roads?
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Why don't we have hydrogen fuel cell cars?
Unfortunately, a hydrogen fuel cell offers few advantages over a battery, with several deal-breaking disadvantages. The problems that show no sign of really being overcome include cost, lack of infrastructure and relative inefficiencies in delivering hydrogen to customers.Jan 27, 2023

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Why is hydrogen not used as a fuel in cars?
Hydrodgen is highly explosive : Using it as domestic fuel is very dangerous, because even a small spark can cause ucontrolled combustion leading to huge explosions. It does not burn at a slow rate. Transport of hydrogen is very difficult.
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What are the downsides of hydrogen fuel cells?
Disadvantages:
Expensive to manufacture due the high cost of catalysts (platinum)
Lack of infrastructure to support the distribution of hydrogen.
A lot of the currently available fuel cell technology is in the prototype stage and not yet validated.
Hydrogen is expensive to produce and not widely available. Privacy.

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Meh…

Climate change has been a natural part of the Earth since there’s been an Earth. We just adapt

Giving more money to Elizabeth Warren won’t change that
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Meh…

Climate change has been a natural part of the Earth since there’s been an Earth. We just adapt



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Giving more money to Elizabeth Warren won’t change that

Might get Fauxahontas off the reservation though.
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

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It's natural to think your region's abnormal weather patterns indicate a natural trend.

Here in Maryland, we haven't seen the sun in almost 2 weeks.  Overnight temps as low as the mid 40s...highs in the 50's and low 60's if we're lucky.

Agree.  That is why:

(1) There is still a huge amount of evidence that our climate is subject on an atmospheric level to randomness
(2) Here on earth, you (we) are more impacted by El-Nino/Nina influences at the macro level. 
(3) And my main point....  Probably the biggest contributor to climatological variations are from sun-spots.  And there is not much we can do with that.

 One major volcanic eruption can emit more CO2 than all of man's contribution combined in a year.  Dismantling our entire economic infrastructure is insane to appease some left wing zealots.  Don't get me wrong.....   I am all for conservation, cost effective abatement, common sense pollution prevention.  Those alone just makes good sense, and it conserves resources for the future.

But, this knee-jerk left induced scam?  I don't think people know or understand what will happen if we take this path over the cliff.
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Agree.  That is why:

(1) There is still a huge amount of evidence that our climate is subject on an atmospheric level to randomness
(2) Here on earth, you (we) are more impacted by El-Nino/Nina influences at the macro level. 
(3) And my main point....  Probably the biggest contributor to climatological variations are from sun-spots.  And there is not much we can do with that.

 One major volcanic eruption can emit more CO2 than all of man's contribution combined in a year.  Dismantling our entire economic infrastructure is insane to appease some left wing zealots.  Don't get me wrong.....   I am all for conservation, cost effective abatement, common sense pollution prevention.  Those alone just makes good sense, and it conserves resources for the future.

But, this knee-jerk left induced scam?  I don't think people know or understand what will happen if we take this path over the cliff.

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The idea that somebody looked at a purple onion and called it a red onion really bothers me.   

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Might get Fauxahontas off the reservation though.

I think the EPA should make her put an electrostatic precipitator on her Smoke Signal Generator.
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I think the EPA should make her put an electrostatic precipitator on her Smoke Signal Generator.

Just give her a butt plug!
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Didn't know that!  :beer:

As I playfully injected prior, what would be the problem if suddenly the Great Plains could switch from wheat and corn to blueberries, melons, pecans and onions...while North Dakota became our "bread basket"?

As stated before, this planet could produce a heck of a lot more food if global temperatures increased 20°.  Look at all the land in Greenland, Canada, and Russia that would now be available for farming.  The people who want a cooler planet are selfishly imposing their desires on a starving planet.
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Yes they are normal in most GA counties. Williamson cty 1993-2007 This is the history date and temp Fall and Spring freezes from 1993 to 2007 when this article was written. You still will not accept if there was not an abnormally warm winter the buds would not have  been out...but you know this so you twist everything...that is all you have.

Farmers report best-ever peach season after devastating losses last year

Abby Kousouris and Amanda Alvarado  |  May. 14, 2024 at 11:34 AM EDT



ATLANTA (WANF/Gray News) - Peach crops in Georgia are thriving after a deep freeze left many with devastating losses last year, according to farmers.

Jake Carter, a third-generation farmer and owner of Southern Belle Farm, began picking peaches on Monday. He said this crop is the best crop he’s ever seen.

“No matter where you go, whatever corner of the state that you enjoy getting your peaches from, they should have a great crop,” Carter said.

He said this year could be life-changing for some farmers who lost everything during a late deep freeze that destroyed the majority of the peach crop last year

“It’s really a shot in the arm. There are lots of great farms in the state of Georgia and everyone I know of has a tremendous crop,” Carter said.

Pam Knox, a researcher at the University of Georgia, studies the impact of climate change on crops. She said there was a time in March that it got close to freezing, but thankfully for farmers, it didn’t have much of an impact on their crops.

“The peaches were able to squeak by with not much damage.
All the peaches were left on the trees. There were so many peaches that a lot of producers had to go in and thin them. If you have too many peaches, they don’t grow very big, you know. They’re less marketable because we like those big juicy peaches,” Knox said.  .  .

https://www.fox19.com/2024/05/14/farmers-report-best-ever-peach-season-after-devastating-losses-last-year/



So last year, they had a deep freeze.  This year, they did not.  Looks like that deep freeze is responsible for killing off the peach harvest, not global warming climate change.

And this year?  Best crop ever.  So maybe 'climate change' does have an effect after all.  For the better.
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Vostok ice core data going back 600,000 years show that temperature drives CO2 levels, not the other way around.  Rising temperatures cause atmospheric CO2 levels to rise.  Falling global temperatures cause atmospheric CO2 levels to decline.  At least that's what the data shows.  Data that liberals continue to ignore.

The data also showed that rising and falling temperatures are cyclical.  A cycle is completed every 80 to 100 thousand years.  And since temperatures begin going up and down many years before CO2 levels begin reversing course, there must be something else driving temperature.  So what could that be?

One must consider what it is that causes global warming.  One hundred percent of global warming is caused by this huge fusion reactor 93 million miles away called 'the Sun'.  So should we expect a constant amount of heat to reach earth year after year, century after century?  Or could there be other factors attributing to this 'cycle'?

First, the output of the sun is not constant.  The sun goes through periods of activity where solar flares rise and fall, and sunspots grow bigger and smaller, affecting output.    Second, the earth's rotation wobbles which results in changes to radiation to polar areas as well as the positioning of the magnetic fields protecting the earth from the worst radiation affects.

So, I prefer to look at the science instead of listening to a bunch of liberals hell bent on controlling my life, but who can't get their story straight.  Nuclear winter, global warming, climate change.  Make up your damn minds.  Get your story straight first, then we can see if it matches up to the actual evidence that is out there.  So far, the only evidence I have seen is 600,000 years of ice core data. 
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Farmers report best-ever peach season after devastating losses last year

Abby Kousouris and Amanda Alvarado  |  May. 14, 2024 at 11:34 AM EDT



ATLANTA (WANF/Gray News) - Peach crops in Georgia are thriving after a deep freeze left many with devastating losses last year, according to farmers.

Jake Carter, a third-generation farmer and owner of Southern Belle Farm, began picking peaches on Monday. He said this crop is the best crop he’s ever seen.

“No matter where you go, whatever corner of the state that you enjoy getting your peaches from, they should have a great crop,” Carter said.

He said this year could be life-changing for some farmers who lost everything during a late deep freeze that destroyed the majority of the peach crop last year

“It’s really a shot in the arm. There are lots of great farms in the state of Georgia and everyone I know of has a tremendous crop,” Carter said.

Pam Knox, a researcher at the University of Georgia, studies the impact of climate change on crops. She said there was a time in March that it got close to freezing, but thankfully for farmers, it didn’t have much of an impact on their crops.

“The peaches were able to squeak by with not much damage.
All the peaches were left on the trees. There were so many peaches that a lot of producers had to go in and thin them. If you have too many peaches, they don’t grow very big, you know. They’re less marketable because we like those big juicy peaches,” Knox said.  .  .

https://www.fox19.com/2024/05/14/farmers-report-best-ever-peach-season-after-devastating-losses-last-year/



So last year, they had a deep freeze.  This year, they did not.  Looks like that deep freeze is responsible for killing off the peach harvest, not global warming climate change.

And this year?  Best crop ever.  So maybe 'climate change' does have an effect after all.  For the better.

Yes the freeze came later but the buds are not out normally at that time

https://www.gfb.org/test-blog/post/georgia-peach-crop-decimated-by-march-freeze

By Jay Stone, Georgia Farm Bureau

Georgia’s 2023 peach crop was reduced by as much as 98% after a March freeze followed a warmer-than-normal winter. The loss prompted a secretarial disaster declaration from the USDA.

The warm winter weather prompted peach trees to bloom early, leaving the buds exposed to freezing temperatures that occurred between March 11 and March 23.

Jeff Cook, Extension coordinator for Peach and Taylor counties, initially estimated 75% crop loss for commercial peach growers but increased that to 98% crop loss after continued monitoring showed more extensive damage across all varieties and across all peach-producing areas of Georgia.
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As stated before, this planet could produce a heck of a lot more food if global temperatures increased 20°.  Look at all the land in Greenland, Canada, and Russia that would now be available for farming.  The people who want a cooler planet are selfishly imposing their desires on a starving planet.

SMH. You do know with  20 degree rise in temps the continental  US would become a vast desert, water would dry up. Mass starvation around the world, food prices would skyrocket to record levels. There would be mass migration  from every country below the latitude of Canada to the far North or far South-South Pole

Major wars
Die off of most species on Earth. Oceans would be dead.
It would be hell on Earth, end of civilization as we know it

Are you  just trolling?
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SMH. You do know with  20 degree rise in temps the continental  US would become a vast desert, water would dry up.

Pure unadulterated fear-mongering bullshit.  It's already 20 degrees warmer in Brazil.
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I'm not going to lose my $h!t because Eastern Massachusetts had a late Last Frost last year, which killed farmers' peaches and my trumpet lillies.

I'll adapt - this year, I'll plant perennials that are more cold hardy.

I live in USDA Zone 6, but I prefer perennials that are hardy for USDA Zone 4 and below.

Statistical avergages hide the extremity and variation of the underlying data.  On "average", the USDA classifies my area as USDA Zone 6, but every so often we can experience Winter low temperatures that are usually classified for USDA Zone 5 or 4.

These are the climate hysteria's I have experienced in my lifetime so far ...

- Hole in the Antarctic Ozone Layer
- Nuclear Winter
- Global Cooling
- Acid Rain
- Yellow Rain
- Global Warming
- Global Climate Change

If this was 12,000 years ago, Global Climate Change harpies would be crying the retreat of the Laurentide Ice Sheet is going to disrupt climate and environment - which it did, and as climate changed, new environments evolved in the areas once covered by Laurentide Ice.  Life adapted, and continued on.

If people are that worried about the impending doom of Climate Change, build yourselves a bunker, wear matching track suits, and drink poisoned Kool-Aid the next time there is a late Last Frost or an early Killing Frost.  That's what cults do.
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Are you  just trolling?

If you lose your hobby of left wing bullshit, you've got a great future in comedy.    :silly:
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Just watching a Netflix documentary on volcanos ... one in the Dominican Republic spews out more sulfur dioxide in ONE WEEK than all cars in the United States do in A YEAR!   :bolt:
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"It was only a sunny smile, and little it cost in the giving, but like morning light it scattered the night and made the day worth living" F. Scott Fitzgerald