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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2024, 12:46:21 am »


Good, there will be time for that later, right now the problem is they are teaching them how to put on said bras.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2024, 02:29:34 am »
Sounds predatory....someone's 'scouting' America...
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2024, 09:34:57 am »
Honestly it's a mess out there!!!  The use of "boy" and "girl" is insulting to hosts of peoples....  The scout badges will have odd pictorials and plenty of rainbow motifs now!!  I'm also tired of work signatures with she/they or whatever.  I propose "it." That works...  :shrug:

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2024, 11:34:58 am »
Honestly it's a mess out there!!!  The use of "boy" and "girl" is insulting to hosts of peoples....  The scout badges will have odd pictorials and plenty of rainbow motifs now!!  I'm also tired of work signatures with she/they or whatever.  I propose "it." That works...  :shrug:

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I propose that the options for work signatures be reduces to She, He, It. For the very confused or attention whores it should be only one option S.H.It.

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2024, 03:48:42 pm »
"Scouts for America" is so much better.

Young children with “Scouts for America” march in Seattle’s pride parade.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1807494518544998754
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2024, 05:21:15 pm »
Honestly it's a mess out there!!!  The use of "boy" and "girl" is insulting to hosts of peoples....  The scout badges will have odd pictorials and plenty of rainbow motifs now!!  I'm also tired of work signatures with she/they or whatever.  I propose "it." That works...  :shrug:

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2024, 05:26:49 pm »
"Scouts for America" is so much better.

Young children with “Scouts for America” march in Seattle’s pride parade.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1807494518544998754

Absolutely disgusting.  They even have Cub Scout level young kids holding those f(l)ags.

My son is to be Eagle Scout.  I’ve been kind of against this from the start as I’m worried about this kind of stuff.  But it’s been good for him so far.  He’s been the patrol leader this past year, and getting Eagle Scout with a very big, difficult project compared to the average “build a bench”.  Biggest concern is he won’t take a stand for the future and still push his kids into it.

I do have to say, I’m not overly against the girl thing.  They have simply opened to girls, who have gotten a bum rush with the feminist but still dull girly Girl Scouts.  But like church and all the women pastors, my concern isn’t so much the girls here, but what it signifies….more liberalism.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2024, 05:58:06 pm »
Honestly it's a mess out there!!!  The use of "boy" and "girl" is insulting to hosts of peoples....  The scout badges will have odd pictorials and plenty of rainbow motifs now!!  I'm also tired of work signatures with she/they or whatever.  I propose "it." That works...  :shrug:

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Honestly, I never see any of all that.


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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2024, 05:59:55 pm »
But then, I call women 'Darlin' all the time, so what do I know...  :whistle:

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2024, 11:56:47 pm »
Amazing how quickly you can beat an organization into submission by suing them accusing them of being child molesters. They'll do just about anything you want.

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2024, 12:04:06 am »
But then, I call women 'Darlin' all the time, so what do I know...  :whistle:
"Hon" works for the ladies. (longstanding pronoun in MD, where I grew up, used by both genders--just not from one guy to another) :shrug:
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2024, 03:17:57 am »
"Scouts for America" is so much better.

Young children with “Scouts for America” march in Seattle’s pride parade.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1807494518544998754

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2024, 04:16:41 am »
"Hon" works for the ladies. (longstanding pronoun in MD, where I grew up, used by both genders--just not from one guy to another) :shrug:

Ladies will call me hon from time to time... Or maybe it's Hun, now that I think about it, albeit that would be inaccurate. 'Honey' some, 'sweetie' more likely, or she'll call me darlin back...Some of it's framing - 'Honey' is likely followed by 'hush'... But I'd say 'sweetie' or 'darlin' or Bubba would be most likely.

From the gents to the ladies, almost always 'Darlin' or ma'am...

It all works just fine.

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2024, 09:11:22 am »
"Scouts for America" is so much better.

Young children with “Scouts for America” march in Seattle’s pride parade.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1807494518544998754
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2024, 02:07:44 pm »
Last summer our council got a new "Executive" She had been in charge of grants and such. The power went to her head. Our entire "Shooting sports" staff quit En Masse. She tried to get us back and we all said now. They had to spend several thousand dollars they didn't have to get a minimum staff. We laughed.

My son's former troop had a poison-pill plan back when gay activists were suing BSA, a lawsuit that BSA won. When BSA unilaterally surrendered the troop left BSA and joined the new Trail Life organization. My son's troop was not huge, but many of its boys earned Eagle rank, well above the then-typical percentage. The troop was also a bit more gung-ho, emphasizing hiking and requiring the Eagle-qualifying leadership position to be direct leadership of boys in the troop (i.e. not Librarian or Quartermaster). Eagle projects were usually more involved than painting a US states map on an elementary school's outdoor basketball court (which some Scouts in other troops did). My son had aged-out over 10 years before the changeover happened.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2024, 10:29:05 am »
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The Boy Scouts of America has a Chief Diversity Officer & Vice President of Diversity and Inclusion. The organization requires all Eagle Scouts to earn a badge in diversity, equity, and inclusion. It admitted girls to its program for 11- to 17-year-old boys in 2019 and changed the name of that program from the Boy Scouts to Scouts BSA. The word “boy” has been routed from the organization’s promotional materials and replaced with “youth,” as in: “For more than 100 years, Scouting programs have instilled in youth the values found in the Scout Oath.”

Does it matter, then, that the Boy Scouts of America has now extirpated the last use of “boy” found in its entire portfolio—the “boy” in “Boy Scouts of America,” the name of the parent organization? It does. That the Boy Scouts cannot tolerate even an atavistic use of “boy” reveals how powerful the impulse is to efface males from our culture. The transformation of the Boy Scouts of America into Scouting America is an object lesson in the incapacity of traditional institutions to withstand progressive takeover. ...

The value of an all-boys organization was self-evident to the Boy Scouts’ founders and to the Scout leaders who followed them. Masculine comradeship underlies males’ willingness to undertake military and civic sacrifice. Boys compete with one another, torment one another, but also sometimes elevate one another. They seek adult males to emulate—ideally their fathers but, in the absence of their own father, a father figure embodying masculine virtue. That father figure can even be imaginary; boys’ aspirations are fired by tales of male courage and the accomplishment of great feats. ...
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2024, 10:48:41 am »
The Boy Scouts of America abandoned us when they decided a couple decades ago to allow gay Scoutmasters.  It was only a matter of time before they completely collapsed.  They should have stood firm years ago, too late now.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2024, 11:27:57 am »
Such a shame.  Eagle Scouts made several trails into the woods and marshes off of a walking trail in one of the parks near me.  It's nice to be able to escape into nature.  They also built a teepee, rope swings, and lean twos with holes to observe wildlife and water fowl.


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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2024, 11:54:45 am »
Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’......you bet they do.

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2024, 11:55:56 am »
I literally don't know a single family who is involved in Scouts. Not one.

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2024, 06:28:38 pm »
There was a time when Eagle-required Merit Badges had value. A badge in DEI has less than none, because it promotes discrimination.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2024, 06:56:55 pm »
Long, long ago and far, far away, I was a Boy Scout. It was fun, and we learned a lot, not all of it in the handbook. Of that crew, there were a Navy SEAL, a Command Sgt. Maj. in the USMC, and a swarm of small business owners and tradesmen, and even a scientist. It was a good experience, but that was at just a little over half the organization's current age.

The last in our family was a nephew who was an Eagle Scout, unfortunately with Obama's signature on the cert.

Even then the first tendrils of what has amounted to the destruction of an organization designed to help prepare young men for their (conservative) future were appearing, and now the demolition nears completion.

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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2024, 07:40:39 pm »
Long, long ago and far, far away, I was a Boy Scout. It was fun, and we learned a lot, not all of it in the handbook. Of that crew, there were a Navy SEAL, a Command Sgt. Maj. in the USMC, and a swarm of small business owners and tradesmen, and even a scientist. It was a good experience, but that was at just a little over half the organization's current age.

The last in our family was a nephew who was an Eagle Scout, unfortunately with Obama's signature on the cert.

Even then the first tendrils of what has amounted to the destruction of an organization designed to help prepare young men for their (conservative) future were appearing, and now the demolition nears completion.

Never saw the need. Most of what the Scouts were teaching I already knew.  But then, building a fire from scratch, and ropes and such, and trapping and hunting are just part of every day in the bush. As are the attitudes that go well between men. No one needed to explain honor to me. It's just part of the furniture hereabouts.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #48 on: July 30, 2024, 12:39:07 pm »

My son's former BSA troop changed over to https://www.traillifeusa.com/ a decade or more ago.

BTW, my son's troop was fairly demanding and quite a few boys earned Eagle rank during my son's time in the troop, my son among them. Some of the Eagle projects were pretty ambitious, more than painting a US states map on an elementary school outdoor basketball court. In the case of one project, the local council commented that it could be 2 or 3 Eagle projects. The departure of my son's troop was not insignificant to the local council.
I used to give to BSA every year based upon my own experiences.

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Here's a sampling of what they stand for:

Our Vision
Our vision is to be the premier national character development organization for young men which produces godly and responsible husbands, fathers, and citizens.

Our Mission
Our Mission is to guide generations of courageous young men to honor God, lead with integrity, serve others, and experience outdoor adventure.
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Re: The Boy Scouts Are Changing Their Name ‘To Welcome Every Youth’
« Reply #49 on: July 31, 2024, 11:20:24 am »

I do have to say, I’m not overly against the girl thing.  They have simply opened to girls, who have gotten a bum rush with the feminist but still dull girly Girl Scouts.  But like church and all the women pastors, my concern isn’t so much the girls here, but what it signifies….more liberalism.

Boys act differently when there are girls around, and vice-versa.  At least "normal" kids do.  One thing that was nice about scouting is that boys could just be boys on campouts rather than preening to impress girls.  There are plenty of other opportunities for them to do that.