Pulse of Briefers (Part II) Election Sentiment 6 Months Out

[catfish1957]

Hereby dedicated to @roamer_1   ...and all his Groupies!   

How many topless women showed up to your house this week?   

[roamer_1]

Freeze beef?  Heretic!

Try *not* freezing it in the winter in the Great White North... We saw it right off the carcass all winter long.

[DCPatriot]

How many topless women showed up to your house this week?   

    

[LMAO]

I thought when Biden won that we would see Jimmy Carter part two

But that’s not the case

There is no gas rationing or gas lines. The Dow hit another record. Unemployment is relatively low


If inflation was at 1.5%, Biden would be a shoe in  for reelection

If Trump wants to differentiate himself from Biden, separate from the border issue, which she is much better on than Biden, He should run on a policy of limited government and reducing spending. But he’s currently running on doing the opposite

[Hoodat]

Try *not* freezing it in the winter in the Great White North... We saw it right off the carcass all winter long.

Well, that's a bit different.  I'm sure there's an upside to getting it straight off the steer.  But for a steak purchased at the grocery store, freezing it ruins the taste for me.  Same goes for those vendors who deliver steaks to your door (e.g. Omaha).  They freeze the steaks, so they taste like crap.  But I get what you're saying about the Great White North.

[Hoodat]

If Trump wants to differentiate himself from Biden, separate from the border issue, which she is much better on than Biden, He should run on a policy of limited government and reducing spending. But he’s currently running on doing the opposite

Yep.  Running as Biden-lite.

[libertybele]

I thought when Biden won that we would see Jimmy Carter part two

But that’s not the case

There is no gas rationing or gas lines. The Dow hit another record. Unemployment is relatively low


If inflation was at 1.5%, Biden would be a shoe in  for reelection

If Trump wants to differentiate himself from Biden, separate from the border issue, which she is much better on than Biden, He should run on a policy of limited government and reducing spending. But he’s currently running on doing the opposite

The rise of the DOW is not an indicator of a healthy economy, nor is the rise in the price of gold.  Just sayin'

[roamer_1]

Well, that's a bit different.  I'm sure there's an upside to getting it straight off the steer.  But for a steak purchased at the grocery store, freezing it ruins the taste for me.  Same goes for those vendors who deliver steaks to your door (e.g. Omaha).  They freeze the steaks, so they taste like crap.  But I get what you're saying about the Great White North.

That's why the freezer is on the porch... It's a redneck thing that started in the North... Half the year it's unplugged with the lid cracked open.

[Hoodat]

The rise of the DOW is not an indicator of a healthy economy

Neither are the rises in bread and egg prices.  Pour six trillion of new money into circulation.  And eventually, that money will be competing for stocks just the same as it competes for bread and eggs.

[roamer_1]

Well, that's a bit different.  I'm sure there's an upside to getting it straight off the steer.  But for a steak purchased at the grocery store, freezing it ruins the taste for me.  Same goes for those vendors who deliver steaks to your door (e.g. Omaha).  They freeze the steaks, so they taste like crap.  But I get what you're saying about the Great White North.

And BTW... Little known fact.... Most meat is frozen to butcher it. It cuts way better that way.

[LMAO]

Do you guys vacuum pack your meat before freezing it?


I do this with all my fish except those I catch on Lake Superior that get smoked. And they taste just fine even after a few months

[roamer_1]

Do you guys vacuum pack your meat before freezing it?


I do this with all my fish except those I catch on Lake Superior that get smoked. And they taste just fine even after a few months

Yeah. Or double wrapped in paper... usually with saran-wrap against the meat.

Paper works fine. Just a whole lot more process. the vac is quick and one-step.

[Sighlass]

Do you guys vacuum pack your meat before freezing it?

Wife sometimes puts it in those heavy duty zip bags... but that is about it. If something gets a little tinge of freezer burnt, we usually just shut up and eat it unless it is just bad burnt.

[Smokin Joe]

Do you guys vacuum pack your meat before freezing it?


I do this with all my fish except those I catch on Lake Superior that get smoked. And they taste just fine even after a few months

In bulk, yes. Hamburger disappears around here too fast to bother. Roasts and such get vacuum packed, especially if cut into smaller sections, and fish fillets not cooked immediately get that, too.

[Hoodat]

There's nothing like taking a whole ribeye, cutting it into steaks, soaking them in orange juice for half a day, and then tossing them onto a charcoal grill.

[DCPatriot]

There's nothing like taking a whole ribeye, cutting it into steaks, soaking them in orange juice for half a day, and then tossing them onto a charcoal grill.

COSTCO sells them 5 to a package...each a smidge more than 2-1/2 inches thick.  Now about $65 for choice...$75. for prime.

I cut each to make two...and freeze the 10 individually.  Problem is, living in a condo unit, we don't have charcoal grill access.

So, it's the iron frying pan to singe and then baked in the oven for a few minutes.  You cannot leave the kitchen and login on the internet or else you get well done...which would be a sacrilege.   

[roamer_1]

There's nothing like taking a whole ribeye, cutting it into steaks, soaking them in orange juice for half a day, and then tossing them onto a charcoal grill.

Never done orange juice... I marinate in a cheap berry wine - or home made huckleberry wine (which is more likely to be here), if I marinate at all... Mostly, I let the smoke work it's magic. I can't think of the last steak I had that wasn't seared over wood and passed to the smoke... Apple wood on beef.

[libertybele]

Never done orange juice... I marinate in a cheap berry wine - or home made huckleberry wine (which is more likely to be here), if I marinate at all... Mostly, I let the smoke work it's magic. I can't think of the last steak I had that wasn't seared over wood and passed to the smoke... Apple wood on beef.

Cherry wood or mesquite works nicely too.  I tend to favor mesquite.  It burns hot and I prefer the taste.

I must say I have never marinated a steak before cooking it over wood or charcoal. They do make charcoal with mesquite mixed in with it and that is what I mostly use. Otherwise it's cherry chips mixed in with charcoal.

[catfish1957]

I know everyone has their preference for steak marination.  Ours is Italian dressing for 3 1/2 days.  Right at about the time the vinegar in the dressing denatures the meat from it's red color to a pale gray brown.

Not only does the dressing enhance the flavor, but makes it tender as all get out. .....   Then slow cook (170F) /smoke

[roamer_1]

Cherry wood or mesquite works nicely too.  I tend to favor mesquite.  It burns hot and I prefer the taste.

I must say I have never marinated a steak before cooking it over wood or charcoal. They do make charcoal with mesquite mixed in with it and that is what I mostly use. Otherwise it's cherry chips mixed in with charcoal.

I love the taste of mesquite or hickory... just can't get at it up in here. It's always a pleasure when my Kansas kin come up, as they can get at it... But I ain't seen nary a one in some years.

Don't do charcoal. Usually cook over pine wood. Smoke can be alder or apple mostly. It's  apple and cherry country up in here. But mostly Bing cherries. It takes sour cherry to make good smoke. That's harder to find. Not native. Apple wood is plentiful. Choke cherry is plentiful, and that ain't bad.

[DCPatriot]

Geez...all I did within the context of the thread was use a rib-eye as an example of basic meats being economically out-of-reach for the common man/voter.

@mystery-ak was kind to tell us Kroger's (which is not available in the Washington, D.C. region) was going to have them on sale.

Now two pages later we're still yapping about smoking and marinating meat.

       

[catfish1957]

Now two pages later we're still yapping about smoking and marinating meat.

       

Not too many more pleasures in life better than a large perfectly cooked ribeye.   Now that's a pulse accelerator.....   

I figure you'd prefer hearing that, rather than 85% in the poll so far don't like Trump.

[Bigun]

Not too many more pleasures in life better than a large perfectly cooked ribeye.   Now that's a pulse accelerator.....   

I figure you'd prefer hearing that, rather than 85% in the poll so far don't like Trump.

I don't think whether or not someone likes Trump has any bearing. I dislike Trump intensely but I'm going to vote for him in November. I'm not voting for a drinking buddy. I'm voting for someone who has the best interests of this country at heart.

[catfish1957]

I don't think whether or not someone likes Trump has any bearing. I dislike Trump intensely but I'm going to vote for him in November. I'm not voting for a drinking buddy. I'm voting for someone who has the best interests of this country at heart.

Pretty much my sentiment too.  The alternative to Trump is destruction.  Why....  I voted for the "nose holding" option

[DCPatriot]

Not too many more pleasures in life better than a large perfectly cooked ribeye.   Now that's a pulse accelerator.....   

I figure you'd prefer hearing that, rather than 85% in the poll so far don't like Trump.

LOL!  Too small a sample size.

85% of a few dozen people disliking Donald Trump in TBR...and $26.86 will get you one rib-eye at Wegman's   

[catfish1957]

LOL!  Too small a sample size.

85% of a few dozen people disliking Donald Trump in TBR...and $26.86 will get you one rib-eye at Wegman's   

Never said this was a adequate sample size.  Still, the fact only 15% of folks frequenting a conservative forum voting that way should at least raise some eyebrows .

OTOH....

Sample size?

20% of GOP primary voters after March voting for "other" is definitely an adquate indication though.

[massadvj]

TRUMP for 3 reasons:

1. He will appoint good judges
2. He will undo the Green New Deal
3. He will enforce the border

I don't expect anything more from him, but I think he can reliably be counted on for these three things. I don't think either Biden or RFK would deliver on these things or anything else, for that matter. So Trump it is.

[Bigun]

TRUMP for 3 reasons:

1. He will appoint good judges
2. He will undo the Green New Deal
3. He will enforce the border

I don't expect anything more from him, but I think he can reliably be counted on for these three things. I don't think either Biden or RFK would deliver on these things or anything else, for that matter. So Trump it is.

 

[catfish1957]

TRUMP for 3 reasons:

1. He will appoint good judges
2. He will undo the Green New Deal
3. He will enforce the border

I don't expect anything more from him, but I think he can reliably be counted on for these three things. I don't think either Biden or RFK would deliver on these things or anything else, for that matter. So Trump it is.

Good points.  I also think that his economic policies won't be as damaging.  Will he run up the defict more?  I am guessing yes, but I think will at least slow the drunken DC spending binge.

[roamer_1]

I don't think whether or not someone likes Trump has any bearing. I dislike Trump intensely but I'm going to vote for him in November. I'm not voting for a drinking buddy. I'm voting for someone who has the best interests of this country at heart.

 His record shows him to be inept and dangerous. HISTORIC destruction of liberty and treasure.
I will not sanction that, not to mention endorse it.

[Bigun]

His record shows him to be inept and dangerous. HISTORIC destruction of liberty and treasure.
I will not sanction that, not to mention endorse it.

You do what you damned well please @roamer_1 but I think you cannot get past your personal hatred when looking at the record. I stipulate that mistakes were made but that is very different than Biden and company's purposeful destruction.

[massadvj]

Good points.  I also think that his economic policies won't be as damaging.  Will he run up the defict more?  I am guessing yes, but I think will at least slow the drunken DC spending binge.

His record suggests otherwise. The PPP "loan" program was an unmitigated disaster. One of the biggest examples of blatant looting of the treasury in my lifetime. Even before that, Trump had already run up the deficit to unheard of levels. I don't expect him to be any better than Biden, except he will try to make sure the government largesse goes to GOP-backed constituencies such as oil companies, small business, churches, etc.

[libertybele]

His record suggests otherwise. The PPP "loan" program was an unmitigated disaster. One of the biggest examples of blatant looting of the treasury in my lifetime. Even before that, Trump had already run up the deficit to unheard of levels. I don't expect him to be any better than Biden, except he will try to make sure the government largesse goes to GOP-backed constituencies such as oil companies, small business, churches, etc.

Though I am not exactly a Trump fan, I think he handled the pandemic very well.  Minus Fauci and Birx, which he soon wised up to, but there is still question as to how Obama closed down Fauci's research but restarted under Trump.  He was in unprecedented territory -- people were depending on him to follow Fauci's advice...so for awhile he did.  When hydroxychloronique was pushed aside by Fauci, I think Trump wise up. Yes he ran up the deficit scrambling to provide medical personnel/hospital with PPE, he even provided temporary facilities and medical ship to assist those areas/hospitals that needed help.  I pat him on the back for that.

I am not an economist, but I can look at my wallet and it was much healthier during Trump's reign than it is now.  Biden is purposefully killing the economy.  Purposefully letting in ILLEGALS for votes and purposefully trying to take down this Republic. An election was stolen and no one will ever convince me otherwise.  I've stated this all before.

I've voiced my opinions as to why I can't vote for Trump but his economic policies were far better than Bidenomics.

Brandon doesn't know where he is most of the time and unfortunately Trump is beginning to show signs of the stress he's under and obviously he's aging.  One cannot escape aging; some just age better than others.

We need true strong conservative leadership period.  No one that is running fits that criteria.    Down ballot only.

[roamer_1]

You do what you damned well please @roamer_1 but I think you cannot get past your personal hatred when looking at the record. I stipulate that mistakes were made but that is very different than Biden and company's purposeful destruction.

I damnwell will. Personal hatred... You're better than that.
I vote record. Performance. Getting it done.

Tumpy did the opposite. In spades. Whether in malice or ineptitude matters not a whit.

Foremost, like Fauxi and Birx, he should have to pay for what he wrought.
Hundreds of thousands of deaths. DEATHS. Untold billions in treasure... And you would cover that with 'mistakes were made'? That is an insult to order and honor. The suffering at his hand must be paid for. Not rewarded.

And secondly, voting *for* big government from the right is against every fiber of my being. Who then will defend small government? No one. A vote for big government is unconscionable. exactly the opposite of everything I know we both stand upon. I will NOT lend that sanction. You may as well be voting for Romney. As of this vote, liberals own both sides of the aisle. How is that going to fare?

Y'all are going the wrong way.

[LMAO]

If Donald Trump should win, he won’t inherit a growing economy with relatively low inflation like he did in 2017. He wants lower interest rates and a weaker dollar. It’s pretty obvious that his economic plan is to just put this country further into debt to include government spending artificially into GDP numbers. But he thinks he’ll lower the cost of servicing that debt

Just a short 10 years ago, putting this country further into debt when debt to GDP ratio is already well over 100% would’ve been universally condemned by many on this site

Yet somehow , when it comes to Trump, all must be forgiven and forgotten and even ignored. Will Donald Trump’s inflationary policies be any less harmful than Biden’s?

[libertybele]

If Donald Trump should win, he won’t inherit a growing economy with relatively low inflation like he did in 2017. He wants lower interest rates and a weaker dollar. It’s pretty obvious that his economic plan is to just put this country further into debt to include government spending artificially into GDP numbers. But he thinks he’ll lower the cost of servicing that debt

Just a short 10 years ago, putting this country further into debt when debt to GDP ratio is already well over 100% would’ve been universally condemned by many on this site

Somehow, when it comes to Trump, all must be forgiven and forgotten and even ignored. Will Donald Trump’s inflationary policies be any less harmful than Biden’s?

So what you are saying is Trump inherited Obama's economy which was economically sound with low inflation?? Also, why do you believe that Trump wants a weaker dollar??

[Bigun]

So what you are saying is Trump inherited Obama's economy which was economically sound with low inflation?? Also, why do you believe that Trump wants a weaker dollar??

It's very easy for some to ignore the biological attack (COVID) Trump had dumped on him.

[LMAO]

So what you are saying is Trump inherited Obama's economy which was economically sound with low inflation?? Also, why do you believe that Trump wants a weaker dollar??

Yes to the first. Trump did not inherit an economy in crisis or a recession.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/02/01/trumps-economic-growth-is-slower-than-obamas-last-3-years/?sh=2a80f7f24fed



The U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis released its first estimate for the December quarter and it shows the economy growing at 2.1%. For 2019 GDP growth was 2.3%, which is down from 2.9% in 2018 and just below 2.4% in 2017, Trump’s first year in office.

Over the 12 quarters Trump has been President only four of them have had GDP growth over 3% and six of the quarter’s growth was 2.3% or lower. And for the past three quarters GDP growth has been 2.0%, 2.1% and 2.1%, respectively. This is a far cry from Trump’s claim that the economy could growth 4%, 5% or maybe even 6% when he was President.




Note  that these numbers were before the pandemic


And on your second question, Trump has said he wants a weaker dollar

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1791985297590210748

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/JDunlap1974/status/1792492458695086131

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1792578596835373199

[libertybele]

It's very easy for some to ignore the biological attack (COVID) Trump had dumped on him.

Agreed.  Here is the U.S. Inflation Rate by President: From Eisenhower to Biden.

 Donald Trump (2017–2021)

Average YOY Inflation Rate: 1.9%

The average yearly inflation rate under President Donald Trump was 1.9%. Inflation remained low during Trump’s presidency.

When the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020, bringing a brief but severe recession along with it, the Trump administration declared a state of emergency and passed stimulus measures such as the $2 trillion Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act in an attempt to provide relief to individuals and businesses.


https://www.investopedia.com/us-inflation-rate-by-president-8546447

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1792564063299354817

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1792224633757761750

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1792578596835373199

Please, enough about this. Let's concentrate on 2024 instead of trying to dig up this nonsense.

[Bigun]

Please, enough about this. Let's concentrate on 2024 instead of trying to dig up this nonsense.

Nonsense??? Are you kidding me?

[DCPatriot]

Please, enough about this. Let's concentrate on 2024 instead of trying to dig up this nonsense.

Totally disagree.  The straight out fraud committed in the 2020 voting has to remain in the news cycles, because one day voting with ID and a purple dyed index finger are apparently not kosher.

[libertybele]

Totally disagree.  The straight out fraud committed in the 2020 voting has to remain in the news cycles, because one day voting with ID and a purple dyed index finger are apparently not kosher.

 

[mystery-ak]

LOL!  Too small a sample size.

85% of a few dozen people disliking Donald Trump in TBR...and $26.86 will get you one rib-eye at Wegman's   

Just trying to help members save a few bucks..they are t-bones btw..I too prefer bone in rib-eyes or filets

[DCPatriot]

Just trying to help members save a few bucks..they are t-bones btw..I too prefer bone in rib-eyes or filets

 

Was at COSTCO this morning for my Deer Park water run and noticed the PRIME rib-eyes are now $80 for pack of 5.