Pulse of Briefers (Part II) Election Sentiment 6 Months Out

[catfish1957]

Tracking how  TBR members and lurkers are feeling about POTUS election preferences.

Here were the final Results from March-April....

Trump- 100%- 18 (15.5%)
Trump- Hold My Nose -17 (14.7%)
Skip POTUS, and vote down-ballot- 51 (44%)
Biden- 4 (3.4%)
Democrat alternative to Joe if he bows out by end of convention- 3 (2.6%)
3rd Party, including RFK, Jr.- 10 (8.6%)
I'll probably be too stoned to vote- 13 (11.2%)

[Bigun]

I'm still in the "Trump while holding my nose" column.

[jafo2010]

I suspect RFK Jr's share of the votes will increase with the approach of November largely from disgust of Wrecking Ball Joe.  It could present a scenario where someone with 34% of the vote wins the election, as was the case with Abe Lincoln.

Right now RFK Jr is polling at the 12-15% range, and I could easily see that number double or more by November, which would make him a real contender.

That is why if you are conservative or even moderate, you must stick with the Republican Party.  There is nothing conservative about RFK Jr.  He is every bit as liberal as Wrecking Ball Joe, he just isn't quit as insane is WBJ!!!!!!!!

[catfish1957]

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[DCPatriot]

Do I really need to say it??   

[catfish1957]

Do I really need to say it??   

What?...

That primaries are still happening, and even with Trump sealing this thing long ago.  "Other, including other candidates" is still pulling near 20% within the  Primaries, held in the last 30 days.

April 23- Pennsylvania- Other- 17.2%
May 4- Missouri-  Other- 0 (uncontested)
May 7- Indiana-  Other- 21.7%
May 14- Nebraska- Other- 20.4%
May 14- Maryland- Other- 22.4%
May 14- West Virginia- Other- 11.6%
May 18- Idaho- 15.1%
May 18- Montana- Unbound

Seems this should raise some red flags, but......

[DCPatriot]

What?...

That primaries are still happening, and even with Trump sealing this thing long ago.  "Other, including other candidates" is still pulling near 20% within the  Primaries, held in the last 30 days.

April 23- Pennsylvania- Other- 17.2%
May 4- Missouri-  Other- 0 (uncontested)
May 7- Indiana-  Other- 21.7%
May 14- Nebraska- Other- 20.4%
May 14- Maryland- Other- 22.4%
May 14- West Virginia- Other- 11.6%
May 18- Idaho- 15.1%
May 18- Montana- Unbound

Seems this should raise some red flags, but......

...but he gets 100,000 to his New Jersey rally!!        

[roamer_1]

...but he gets 100,000 to his New Jersey rally!!        

So what? He ain't gonna take New Jersey.

[libertybele]

I'm still skipping POTUS and voting down ballot -- so far, there really isn't anyone to vote for down ballot, so for the first time since I was able to vote, I may sit this one out.

As for Trump's rallies - -I watched part of one recently.  He normally give rallies like none other, but he appears weary and tired.  It's to be understood with all that they're putting him through and all that he's been through. Secondly, his rallies don't equate to votes; we've been there before and they'll steal another election if need be, guaranteed.

Also, a scenario IMHO that may happen; Trump may not be able to run because of charges against him, Biden will have to step down and RFK Jr. takes the WH as an Independent.

[roamer_1]

Not just no. Oh, HELL NO!

[Right_in_Virginia]

I'm still skipping POTUS and voting down ballot -- so far, there really isn't anyone to vote for down ballot, so for the first time since I was able to vote, I may sit this one out.

As for Trump's rallies - -I watched part of one recently.  He normally give rallies like none other, but he appears weary and tired.  It's to be understood with all that they're putting him through and all that he's been through.

We watch all of Trump's rallies and methinks the weary, tired one must be you.  No worries, it's easy to understand why.   

[libertybele]

We watch all of Trump's rallies and methinks the weary, tired one must be you.  No worries, it's easy to understand why.   

I think you see everything through orange colored glass.  No worries; it's expected from you.

[catfish1957]

...but he gets 100,000 to his New Jersey rally!!        

That was impressive.  But I am certain that some of this newly found electoral zest is DJT expanding more of his appeal and reach toward moderates and minorites.

Problem is that voting faction is going to be a lot less reliable come November than past the dependable  Conservative voting bloc. I think this backfires.    And I say this sincerely as one of the "nose holders", and not a TDS individual.

[LMAO]

The mistake that Trump supporters make is to think that these huge rallies for Trump is a sign of broad support for him. But most voters do not attend political rallies

My nephew went to a Trump rally and he is not a Trump supporter. So how many of these people attending these rallies are either just curious or are just attracted to the celebrity factor vs True believers. The MAGA movement is very unpopular with the general population

Trump squeaked out a lucky win in 2016 thanks to the electoral college and millions of Democrat voters staying home that year. But since then, the Republican party has been on a losing streak.

There is a chance, however small, 2016 could be repeated because of the pro HAMAs wing of the Democrat Party that decides to stay home this election day over Israel. Or they could decide that Trump would be worse and decide to “hold their nose” and vote for Biden

[roamer_1]

That was impressive.  But I am certain that some of this newly found electoral zest is DJT expanding more of his appeal and reach toward moderates and minorites.

Problem is that voting faction is going to be a lot less reliable come November than past the dependable  Conservative voting bloc. I think this backfires.    And I say this sincerely as one of the "nose holders", and not a TDS individual.

MEH. I will reiterate: A rock star can fill stadiums out here in the midst of redneck-nation. It's the show. Folks come to see the show - any show. That is not the same thing as a reliable vote. All the hype is gone in the voting booth.

[DCPatriot]

The mistake that Trump supporters make is to think that these huge rallies for Trump is a sign of broad support for him. But most voters do not attend political rallies

My nephew went to a Trump rally and he is not a Trump supporter. So how many of these people attending these rallies are either just curious or are just attracted to the celebrity factor vs True believers. The MAGA movement is very unpopular with the general population

Trump squeaked out a lucky win in 2016 thanks to the electoral college and millions of Democrat voters staying home that year. But since then, the Republican party has been on a losing streak.

There is a chance, however small, 2016 could be repeated because of the pro HAMAs wing of the Democrat Party that decides to stay home this election day over Israel. Or they could decide that Trump would be worse and decide to “hold their nose” and vote for Biden

LOL!

I just returned from Wegman's grocery store.  A single rib eye steak sprinkled with coarse black pepper was $26.86

Heard Dionne Warwick in my head and just "Walked on by...."   

[LMAO]

LOL!

I just returned from Wegman's grocery store.  A single rib eye steak sprinkled with coarse black pepper was $26.86

Heard Dionne Warwick in my head and just "Walked on by...."   

An expensive steak has nothing to do with an election.

That steak was expensive in 2022 and Republicans still lost

[catfish1957]

The mistake that Trump supporters make is to think that these huge rallies for Trump is a sign of broad support for him. But most voters do not attend political rallies

My nephew went to a Trump rally and he is not a Trump supporter. So how many of these people attending these rallies are either just curious or are just attracted to the celebrity factor vs True believers. The MAGA movement is very unpopular with the general population

Trump squeaked out a lucky win in 2016 thanks to the electoral college and millions of Democrat voters staying home that year. But since then, the Republican party has been on a losing streak.

There is a chance, however small, 2016 could be repeated because of the pro HAMAs wing of the Democrat Party that decides to stay home this election day over Israel. Or they could decide that Trump would be worse and decide to “hold their nose” and vote for Biden

Exactly...... and why 1 in 5 self proclaimed Republicans are going out of their way, showing at to the polls on an already decided race, and....... voting for "other".

I know it is a small sample size here, but less than 15% are wholeheartedly supporting him at TBR in this second poll.   When would you ever see that at any Conservative forum site for a GOP candidate

[catfish1957]

MEH. I will reiterate: A rock star can fill stadiums out here in the midst of redneck-nation. It's the show. Folks come to see the show - any show. That is not the same thing as a reliable vote. All the hype is gone in the voting booth.

You make a good point.  You have to admit DJT is a hoot, in a Stand Up Comedy kind of way.  Back in the day, Chappelle, Daingerfield, and Steve Martin used to fill 20K seat venues too.

[DCPatriot]

An expensive steak has nothing to do with an election.

That steak was expensive in 2022 and Republicans still lost

LOL!  Sure an awful lot of Blue Dog Democrats kept walking by too!   

[roamer_1]

LOL!  Sure an awful lot of Blue Dog Democrats kept walking by too!   

Your problem in that is that enough people on the right know that Tumpy is complicit in those high prices.

[LMAO]

LOL!  Sure an awful lot of Blue Dog Democrats kept walking by too!   
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There’s no such thing as a blue dog Democrat and even if there was, there’s not enough of them to put Donald Trump over the top

Sorry

[catfish1957]

LOL!  Sure an awful lot of Blue Dog Democrats kept walking by too!   

I am from the South.  You think Blue Dog Democrats still exist?  Name 1.   

Zell Miller and Sam Nunn are from a distant past.

[roamer_1]

Visions of deep blue Maryland, or New Jersey voting for Tumpy in leaps and bounds are far fetched.

[LMAO]

Your problem in that is that enough people on the right know that Tumpy is complicit in those high prices.

Trump is benefiting in the polls right now because people are unhappy with Biden

But as the campaign really starts to get going, and people start paying attention, its going to be nothing more than Biden sucks

We saw the same thing in the 2004 campaign

[DCPatriot]

I am from the South.  You think Blue Dog Democrats still exist?  Name 1.   

Zell Miller and Sam Nunn are from a distant past.

IMO, the term still defines any Democrat voter who crossed over to vote for Ronald Reagan in lieu of Jimmy Carter and Mondale 

[roamer_1]

Trump is benefiting in the polls right now because people are unhappy with Biden

But as the campaign really starts to get going, and people start paying attention, its going to be nothing more than Biden sucks

We saw the same thing in the 2004 campaign

Yep. The ol' 'We're not quite as bad as Democrats' defense... woo! 

[catfish1957]

Visions of deep blue Maryland, or New Jersey voting for Tumpy in leaps and bounds are far fetched.

Trump is about to pull a '16 Hitlerly by trying to expand the winning EV total from 270 to 350, at the expense of swing states

Big mistake.

[roamer_1]

IMO, the term still defines any Democrat voter who crossed over to vote for Ronald Reagan in lieu of Jimmy Carter and Mondale 

They are all Republicans now, and largely make up the Christian Right.

[roamer_1]

Trump is about to pull a '16 Hitlerly by trying to expand the winning EV total from 270 to 350, at the expense of swing states

Big mistake.

Partly because he has one foot nailed down by trials in deep blue states - But the result will be as you say.

[DCPatriot]

They are all Republicans now, and largely make up the Christian Right.

Baloney, my FRiend!

They're United Auto Workers and Steel Workers and people like me who haven't walked the meat aisles lately.   

PS:  And Jiminy Cricket...can ANYBODY beat the GD Yankees???   

[libertybele]

LOL!

I just returned from Wegman's grocery store.  A single rib eye steak sprinkled with coarse black pepper was $26.86

Heard Dionne Warwick in my head and just "Walked on by...."   

Yes, that's outrageous. Farmer Joe's had rib-eyes on sale for $13.99/lb....tasty enough but even for a rib-eye, way too fatty.  Occasionally NY strips will be on sale or T-bones but even on sale, it sure does take a chunk out of the grocery budget.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that hasn't been affected by Bidenomics and inflation.  Then there are those that claim that the economy is just fine. 

[LMAO]

The problem Trump has is that he has no plans or even really the desire to bring down inflation.

Spending and printing more is not the answer


Mitt Romney tried the strategy of not uniting his base, but hoping there would be enough Democrats that were unhappy with Barack Obama that would cross over and vote for him and that didn’t work

[DCPatriot]

Yes, that's outrageous. Farmer Joe's had rib-eyes on sale for $13.99/lb....tasty enough but even for a rib-eye, way too fatty.  Occasionally NY strips will be on sale or T-bones but even on sale, it sure does take a chunk out of the grocery budget.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that hasn't been affected by Bidenomics and inflation.  Then there are those that claim that the economy is just fine. 

@libertybele

My buddy called me yesterday...said he brought back a package of rib-eyes to COSTCO because when he opened the package to sort them for freezing...turned them over and they were BROWN and had an odor.

We think they're re-packaging them in order to change the "SELL-BY" date. 

[roamer_1]

Baloney, my FRiend!

They're United Auto Workers and Steel Workers and people like me who haven't walked the meat aisles lately.   

No, the 'Southern Strategy' very specifically broke the back of the Democrats' stronghold in the SOUTH. The appeal was to Christians, offering them a seat at the Conservative table, with a promise to fight against the decadent evil rising up. Blue Dog democrats were Democrat in Name only - Having strong Christian Convictions that the Democrats were railing against. They were in fact disenfranchised by their own party. The heartfelt offer by Reagan's Conservatives brought them over en-masse.

And for the most part, they are Republicans now. All those Southern states that used to be blue are now red.

[mystery-ak]

T-bones on sale next week at Krogers with digital coupon..$6.99 lb...sale starts Wed.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

My buddy called me yesterday...said he brought back a package of rib-eyes to COSTCO because when he opened the package to sort them for freezing...turned them over and they were BROWN and had an odor.

We think they're re-packaging them in order to change the "SELL-BY" date.

@DCPatriot   I don't doubt it. I hope that he was able to return them.  Things are a mess and 'corporate' is going to cut corners and make money any way that they can.

[catfish1957]

T-bones on sale next week at Krogers with digital coupon..$6.99 lb...sale starts Wed.

Wow...  those will fly out the door.  Hope Kroger issues rain checks.

[libertybele]

T-bones on sale next week at Krogers with digital coupon..$6.99 lb...sale starts Wed.

Holy crappola!!!!  That's a flippin' bargain (hopefully decent meat).  Stock up and freeze them. (No Korger around here  )

[DCPatriot]

No, the 'Southern Strategy' very specifically broke the back of the Democrats' stronghold in the SOUTH. The appeal was to Christians, offering them a seat at the Conservative table, with a promise to fight against the decadent evil rising up. Blue Dog democrats were Democrat in Name only - Having strong Christian Convictions that the Democrats were railing against. They were in fact disenfranchised by their own party. The heartfelt offer by Reagan's Conservatives brought them over en-masse.

And for the most part, they are Republicans now. All those Southern states that used to be blue are now red.

Come on, man...what are you smoking?  You evidently don't get out much anymore!   

Switch out the "Religious Right"....which BTW, is in a Hospice somewhere and change it to MAGA voters!

[Hoodat]

I am from the South.  You think Blue Dog Democrats still exist?  Name 1.   

Brian Kemp

[DCPatriot]

Brian Kemp

One more time..."Blue-Dog" isn't limited to Congress People.

They're voters who cross-over from Democrat to Republican or even Third Party. 

[roamer_1]

Come on, man...what are you smoking?  You evidently don't get out much anymore!   

Switch out the "Religious Right"....which BTW, is in a Hospice somewhere and change it to MAGA voters!

The religious Right is the biggest voting bloc by far. Tumpy ain't going nowhere without Christian support - Those Christians not bright enough to see through his facade that follow the likes of Paula White...

If the Christians wanted Tumpy, he'd be president.

[roamer_1]

One more time..."Blue-Dog" isn't limited to Congress People.

They're voters who cross-over from Democrat to Republican or even Third Party. 

Changing definitions doesn't make it so. Just like liberals.

[LMAO]

The idea that you’re going to make up for the loss of the base with blue dog Democrats never works

You secure all aspects of your base first. Then you try to attract moderates

Again, the Mitt Romney strategy that failed

This is already shaping up to be nothing more than a campaign of Biden sucks

[Hoodat]

The religious Right is the biggest voting bloc by far. Tumpy ain't going nowhere without Christian support -

Trump zealots are going after heathen Democrat voters, not Christian Conservative voters.  They've already made it clear how they feel about us.  They would rather embrace Big Government solutions, except by saying that Trump can do Big Government better than Democrats.

[Hoodat]

Holy crappola!!!!  That's a flippin' bargain (hopefully decent meat).  Stock up and freeze them.

Freeze beef?  Heretic!

[DCPatriot]

Hereby dedicated to @roamer_1   ...and all his Groupies!   

[roamer_1]

The idea that you’re going to make up for the loss of the base with blue dog Democrats never works

You secure all aspects of your base first. Then you try to attract moderates

Again, the Mitt Romney strategy that failed

This is already shaping up to be nothing more than a campaign of Biden sucks

The mistake is in trying for Democrats *at all*. There are far more fertile fields among the disenfranchised.

[libertybele]

The idea that you’re going to make up for the loss of the base with blue dog Democrats never works

You secure all aspects of your base first. Then you try to attract moderates

Again, the Mitt Romney strategy that failed

This is already shaping up to be nothing more than a campaign of Biden sucks

Speaking of 'Biden Sucks' -- I actually drove by a yard the other day with a Trump flag and a 'Biden Sucks' sign.  I'll have to do an Amazon search to get one.