Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out

[roamer_1]

Really? I'm not fond of tariffs as a matter of simple economics but when the marketplace is grossly slanted in favor of people who will not play by the rules, they ARE appropriate.

I'm all in favor of pricing the CHICOMS out of markets everywhere by any means necessary.

The better way would be to take the weight off of American small business so they can compete. China has different rules. That's why everybody is manufacturing over there instead of over here.

[Right_in_Virginia]

The point is, in AZ Trump got 75%, and I was expecting more.   

Early voting ---- began Feb 21.  Had she still been in it, this would have been just another bloodbath for her with Trump winning by more than 55 points.

The real story is the inroads Trump has been in Arizona's Hispanic community, although early voting is still an important issue.

[Hoodat]

In the long run, US tariffs make American manufacturers less competitive, not more competitive. 

[Bigun]

The better way would be to take the weight off of American small business so they can compete. China has different rules. That's why everybody is manufacturing over there instead of over here.

They are over there because the WE have priced ourselves out of markets with our insane Marxist income tax system!

[roamer_1]

In the long run, US tariffs make American manufacturers less competitive, not more competitive.

That's right. Try some union busting instead. Try fattening up the purchasing power of the dollar.

[roamer_1]

They are over there because the WE have priced ourselves out of markets with our insane Marxist income tax system!

And unions, and minimum wages, and a weak, inflated dollar. We could go on and on.

[Bigun]

In the long run, US tariffs make American manufacturers less competitive, not more competitive.

IF left in place for long periods perhaps but our problems here do not arise from temporary devices. They arise from our INSANE Marxist income tax system!

[DCPatriot]

I had a Toyota minivan that I traded in that had 289,000 miles on it for an SUV about 6 years ago

Ran great and required very little maintenance

What brand of auto is Korean?

Hyundai and KIA.  They're strong competition to Honda and Toyota.

[Bigun]

And unions, and minimum wages, and a weak, inflated dollar. We could go on and on.

"There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

Henry David  Thoreau

ALL the things you mentioned in your post are enabled by the Marxist income tax and federal reserve banks!

[DCPatriot]

No, you literally can't.

First you have to START making American shit. THEN you can stop buying CHICOM shit.

@roamer_1

LOL!  A majority of Toyota and Honda...even BMW are stamped and assembled in various cities here in the USA.

Until recently most have been NON-UNION plants....don't know about right now.

[Sighlass]

Perfect example of an online meltdown. Quite entertaining actually.

But this is what members of a cult look like.
Uncomfortable facts makes him anxious. Understandable. So what he wants is an echo chamber for his own comfort.

As you see,   because he’s not getting it, he’s lashing out

Notice how he pinged moderators first. he wants viewpoints that he doesn’t like silenced because he sees those as a micro aggression. Just like a university snowflake.

Nobody better to be called a Nazi Ahole from than a few Trump cultist. I remain a Christian Conservative, them, not so much.

[roamer_1]

"There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root."

Henry David  Thoreau

ALL the things you mentioned in your post are enabled by the Marxist income tax and federal reserve banks!

You know you're preachin to the choir.... 
You'll find no disagreement with me on this.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

LOL!  A majority of Toyota and Honda...even BMW are stamped and assembled in various cities here in the USA.

Until recently most have been NON-UNION plants....don't know about right now.

I'll bet you'll find plenty on them made in China.

[catfish1957]

Please, post a link to this @catfish1957

@Right_in_Virginia

Extraxcted from electoral tabulation site that I prepared that night.

post. No.68 on this thread.  Check any news site if you want to dispute

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Here is how "other" fared against Trump tonight.

Arizona- 23.7%.  22.4%
Florida- 18.8%.     18.8%
Illinois- 19.7%.    19.5%
Kansas- 24.7%.     24.5%
Ohio- 20.8%-          20.8%

Note to RIV, went to CNN site and complete results are amended above in red

[Hoodat]

The point is, in AZ Trump got 75%, and I was expecting more.   

Keep in mind that there was also a Democrat primary.  Combine the two, and you have a better picture of where the voters stand.

Trump received around 47% of the Arizona vote, which means he has an uphill fight in that State.  Contrast that with Georgia where he captured over 50% of the total State vote.  Trump will win Georgia in November.  But he has a lot of work to do to win AZ.  And sharing the ballot with Kari Lake will only hurt.

[Smokin Joe]

@Cyber Liberty  @Smokin Joe

Okay...thank you.

Interpreted it to mean that DJT got 75% of the total votes...NH got 22%, so "Not for Trump" could only achieve 3% because "100%" equals total.

Subsets overlap. Venn diagrams and all that...

[Smokin Joe]

I'll bet you'll find plenty on them made in China.

Years ago, (after NAFTA), I walked into NAPA and ordered up a set of brake drums for the '75 van I was using for a field vehicle at the time. I was asked "You want Mexican or Chinese?" "Let's just stick to North America, thanks."

I would wager a tremendous number of aftermarket parts hail from China.

[DCPatriot]

Subsets overlap. Venn diagrams and all that...

All television election returns simply show what percentage of the whole (100%) each candidate received.

DJY got 3 of every 4 votes cast. That's all that interests me.

[roamer_1]

Years ago, (after NAFTA), I walked into NAPA and ordered up a set of brake drums for the '75 van I was using for a field vehicle at the time. I was asked "You want Mexican or Chinese?" "Let's just stick to North America, thanks."

I would wager a tremendous number of aftermarket parts hail from China.

Most.

[DCPatriot]

A perfect description of too many of my Briefer FRiends today...IF THE SHOE FITS...WEAR IT!

By Stephan Helgesen:

...Admittedly, my frame of reference is limited to the last eight decades of my life, but in that time, I have noticed a marked shift in how we view ourselves as a country and a people.

We've gone from pride to prejudices, from faith to fears, and from purposeful optimism to abject pessimism. We've become a country of self-doubters, ashamed of and apologetic for our history. We hide our true opinions, justifying to ourselves that it's better to demur than to engage each other in conversation. After all, conversation could lead to disagreement and that could lead to conflict which would be unpleasant and uncomfortable. Better to step away from confrontation and live in peaceful coexistence with the forces that are working feverishly to upend all the time-honored cultural values that we hold dear, than to raise our heads above the waterline and make ourselves a target.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/03/the_death_of_the_american_salesman.html

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Extraxcted from electoral tabulation site that I prepared that night.

Thanks @catfish1957.   I'm still very happy with the wins!!!   Very happy. 

[LMAO]

 

A perfect description of too many of my Briefer FRiends today...IF THE SHOE FITS...WEAR IT!

By Stephan Helgesen:



https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/03/the_death_of_the_american_salesman.html

Excellent description of Trump himself. The guy has a lot of bluster at his rallies. I’ll give him that. But when it came to governing and standing up to the Democrats, he folded.

Went along with them on COVID. Sided with them on deficits. Sided with Bud Light over conservatives for donor money. Flipped on his former Tik Tok stance over donor money.

We call that a paper tiger. He’s brave when it comes to Stormy Daniel’s. Chuck Shumer and Pelosi, not so much
 

[LMAO]

Speaking of Tariffs….

The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act was meant to protect the U.S. economy from the Great Depression by not allowing Americans to purchase goods from outside the U.S., however, this ended up making the economy even worse. The act led to banks closing and people consumed even fewer goods, meaning the effect of the act was not that farmers and manufacturers sold more, but that they sold less at a cheaper price.


https://study.com/academy/lesson/hawley-smoot-tariff-of-1930-definition-overview.html#:~:text=The%20Smoot%2DHawley%20Act%20raised,only%20purchase%20American%2Dmade%20goods.

Now Trump wants tariffs while we are experiencing 40 year high inflation

I suppose that the resulting crash would bring prices down if you want to argue that point. Maybe he wants to crash the economy to bring prices down?

I myself prefer deficit reduction and a sound currency to bring inflation under control but that’s just me


Trump’s desire to protect American industries and jobs is noble. But it’s the results and not the intentions that a policy should be judged by

[Cyber Liberty]

Early voting ---- began Feb 21.  Had she still been in it, this would have been just another bloodbath for her with Trump winning by more than 55 points.

The real story is the inroads Trump has been in Arizona's Hispanic community, although early voting is still an important issue.

I do not disagree with that.

[roamer_1]

A perfect description of too many of my Briefer FRiends today...IF THE SHOE FITS...WEAR IT!

WTF are you goin on about now, @DCPatriot ?

This is a forum. A place for classical debate. In the very nature of the place, I'd highly doubt the sort attracted here would be short on opinion, or lacking in their ability to opine. Folks speak their mind around here.

 

[DCPatriot]

WTF are you goin on about now, @DCPatriot ?

This is a forum. A place for classical debate. In the very nature of the place, I'd highly doubt the sort attracted here would be short on opinion, or lacking in their ability to opine. Folks speak their mind around here.

 

Some unsolicited advice, Mr. Know-it-All.  Try using your scroll-bar if a post goes over that large head of yours.

Stop making up bleep out of nothing, because of your incessant need to appear the smartest one in the room. 

Everything posted here isn't a challenge to you and your crew.

Have a nice day...go back and finish your Manifesto or something.   

[roamer_1]

Some unsolicited advice, Mr. Know-it-All.  Try using your scroll-bar if a post goes over that large head of yours.

Stop making up bleep out of nothing, because of your incessant need to appear the smartest one in the room. 

Everything posted here isn't a challenge to you and your crew.

Have a nice day...go back and finish your Manifesto or something.   

More caterwauling drivel. In't it a bit early to be drunk-posting @DCPatriot ?

Know it all? Not me. Never claimed that.
Smartest in the room? Not by a long stretch. Never claimed that either.
I have a crew? It's news to me.

As to my manifesto - Not necessary. I adhere to Burke and Kirk... All the way back to Socrates. No sense in being repetitive.

Methinks your only bitch against me is that I will not be moved. Not a single damn inch.

[DCPatriot]

We've got many wonderful members here who've been posting long before the current ownership took over the forum.

IMO, they're dinosaur Republicans who naturally choose to be polite no matter the opposition.

Democrats today aren't like democrats from JFK days.  Today, they want you gone...not a factor of any kind in their tearing up the Bill of Rights, Constitution and rebuilding it to protect their power.  You're simply in their way.

In a climate like this, and ending my 8th decade as a citizen, I cannot play nice.

I'm more of a "I'll rip off your face and show it to you" today.

Out of respect for a dozen or so members, I won't dare ping anyone.

BUT IMO, you know exactly to whom I'm referring. 

[LMAO]

Have you seen a pride parade, it ain't the bedroom anymore than it was to begin with. It is in the streets, in the classrooms, in the freaking halls of congress caught on film. Like I said, you keep harping on bedrooms and like I said, it ain't bedrooms anymore, it is adoptions rights, it is now in classrooms keeping parents from even knowing what they push on kids.

Do you supports Trumps positions on this?

Good luck in getting an answer to this

[roamer_1]

Good luck in getting an answer to this

Or literally anything else...

Just bumper stickers.
'Murica.

[DCPatriot]

Have you seen a pride parade, it ain't the bedroom anymore than it was to begin with. It is in the streets, in the classrooms, in the freaking halls of congress caught on film. Like I said, you keep harping on bedrooms and like I said, it ain't bedrooms anymore, it is adoptions rights, it is now in classrooms keeping parents from even knowing what they push on kids.

Do you supports Trumps positions on this?

IMHO, this has the homosexual Barack Hussein Obama's fingerprints all over this crap.

He's been able to rise to POTUS, all while doing recreational drugs and living a blatant homosexual lifestyle, with a tranny beard and two phony girls passed off as his birth daughters.

With informational dominance with a complicit media and secret data on all the leaders, CEO, FGO, politicians, union leaders, this MO is to blackmail people into pushing his agenda which currently is to have homosexuality relationships accepted as normal.

With all the handpicked freaks and American-hating terrorists he's publicly elevated in our military and intelligence agencies, he's decided along the way to indoctrinate children and toddlers.

"Give me your children for 5 years and I'll show you your future"

We have cross-dressing freaks as heads of agencies...we had Commie voting citizens in charge of the CIA.

This is all in an attempt to condition our youth to accept homosexuality as an accepted lifestyle.

Thus, we went to "whatever you do in your bedroom" to where we are today.

@Sighlass   Does that about cover your question?   

Because once again, Trump has nothing to do with this.  He's just one man!

[LMAO]

Oops

From 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/in-speech-trump-appears-to-embrace-lgbt-rights-but-gay-leaders-remain-skeptical/


Trump's speech today was historic — it marked the first time in history a Republican presidential nominee made a direct and explicit appeal to the LGBT community," Angelo said in a statement. "Only time will tell if that translates to actual votes, but in key states that will be decided by slim margins, a few extra votes from LGBT Americans could make all the difference."

[roamer_1]

@Sighlass   Does that about cover your question?   

Because once again, Trump has nothing to do with this.  He's just one man!

Nonsense @DCPatriot . Tumpy is woke as all get out. On the wrong side of Disney. On the wrong side of Bud Light. Seriously on the wrong side all the way along. But I'll let @Sighlass take you to school.

[DCPatriot]

Oops

From 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/in-speech-trump-appears-to-embrace-lgbt-rights-but-gay-leaders-remain-skeptical/


Trump's speech today was historic — it marked the first time in history a Republican presidential nominee made a direct and explicit appeal to the LGBT community," Angelo said in a statement. "Only time will tell if that translates to actual votes, but in key states that will be decided by slim margins, a few extra votes from LGBT Americans could make all the difference."

Excuse the man for recognizing the LGTB voter during his presidential campaign.

LOL!  Desperate much??  @Sighlass

[corbe]

   It's always interesting to watch you twist all your Moralities and Principles into a Pretzel @DCPatriot defending this NY liberal. 
   I expected better from such an intelligent Man.   

   * Though I expect that a populate your Ignore List.

[LMAO]

Excuse the man for recognizing the LGTB voter during his presidential campaign.

LOL!  Desperate much??  @Sighlass

 @Sighlass didn’t post that I did

Up thread, you just went on about how Barack Obama is responsible for all the immorality in this country

Yet when you find out that Donald Trump himself has embraced woke and LBGTQRST issues, miraculously you suddenly have no problem with that

[LMAO]

   It's always interesting to watch you twist all your Moralities and Principles into a Pretzel @DCPatriot defending this NY liberal. 
   I expected better from such an intelligent Man.   

   * Though I expect that a populate your Ignore List.

I suspect we’re gonna see a lot more of that from his most dedicated of supporters throughout the campaign


They don’t seem to grasp the concept that you can still vote for somebody and support their campaign but you don’t have to agree with everything they believe

[DCPatriot]

   It's always interesting to watch you twist all your Moralities and Principles into a Pretzel @DCPatriot defending this NY liberal. 
   I expected better from such an intelligent Man.   

   * Though I expect that a populate your Ignore List.

I don't use the "ignore" feature @corbe Use my scroll bar unless the feces posted gets too overwhelming.

Just a typical 78 year old geezer who wants everybody off my lawn! And can no longer tolerate jerks.

[Hoodat]

This is a forum. A place for classical debate.

Classical debate is an imprecation to the 'ends justify the means' crowd.  It's because classical debate is founded in 'truth'.

[Hoodat]

Up thread, you just went on about how Barack Obama is responsible for all the immorality in this country

Yet when you find out that Donald Trump himself has embraced woke and LBGTQRST issues, miraculously you suddenly have no problem with that

Reversing premises at the drop of a hat.  It is just like having a debate with a liberal.

Oh, wait .  .  .

[Hoodat]

Just a typical 78 year old geezer who wants everybody off my lawn! And can no longer tolerate jerks.

Then how do you live with yourself?

[Sighlass]

Moralphobes aplenty.

Trump just a year ago was kissing gay butt... and I am sure behind closed doors he is promising even more than what gets published.

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/12/16/trump-addresses-log-cabin-republicans-at-mar-a-lago-gala/

“We are fighting for the gay community, and we are fighting and fighting hard,” - NY Values Trump 

When you join a force fighting not for equality, but for extra "special" rights to place a protected class above all others that don't flock to their ideology.

[roamer_1]

Classical debate is an imprecation to the 'ends justify the means' crowd.  It's because classical debate is founded in 'truth'.

FACTS.

And truth cannot be malleable.

[DCPatriot]

@Sighlass didn’t post that I did

Up thread, you just went on about how Barack Obama is responsible for all the immorality in this country

Yet when you find out that Donald Trump himself has embraced woke and LBGTQRST issues, miraculously you suddenly have no problem with that

I did no such thing, @LMAO

Opined that before the faggot Obama moved into the Oval Office, the LGTBQ crowd remained in the closet and that he takes great pride in filling important positions with them...essentially rubbing the lifestyle in our faces.

And pandering for votes during a national campaign, IMO, is a venial sin comparatively speaking and demonstrating.

https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-the-difference-between-mortal-and-venial-sin/

[Hoodat]

Opined that before the faggot Obama moved into the Oval Office, the LGTBQ crowd remained in the closet and that he takes great pride in filling important positions with them...essentially rubbing the lifestyle in our faces.

And pandering for votes during a national campaign, IMO, is a venial sin comparatively speaking and demonstrating.

So it's OK when Trump does it, but not OK when Obama does it?

[LMAO]

I did no such thing, @LMAO

Opined that before the faggot Obama moved into the Oval Office, the LGTBQ crowd remained in the closet and that he takes great pride in filling important positions with them...essentially rubbing the lifestyle in our faces.

And pandering for votes during a national campaign, IMO, is a venial sin comparatively speaking and demonstrating.

https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-the-difference-between-mortal-and-venial-sin/

 

[roamer_1]

 

There ya go. It's the same damn thing.
the only difference is... 'Murica.

[Smokin Joe]

Oops

From 2016

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/13/in-speech-trump-appears-to-embrace-lgbt-rights-but-gay-leaders-remain-skeptical/


Trump's speech today was historic — it marked the first time in history a Republican presidential nominee made a direct and explicit appeal to the LGBT community," Angelo said in a statement. "Only time will tell if that translates to actual votes, but in key states that will be decided by slim margins, a few extra votes from LGBT Americans could make all the difference."

Nope.

On the political benefit/loss  curve, I think that's a FAIL.

Most of those sympathetic to the antics we have seen in this Administration are going to vote Democrat, no matter who is running.

I do not think he could 'sway' enough of that demographic where he will need it, because there simply aren't enough votes to overcome the election fraud he will be facing. Add in the 'benefit' of giving Conservatives just one more reason to not be enthusiastic about voting for him, and I think this is a Loser, Bigly.

[corbe]

   @catfish1957 kindly emailed me his PDF Volume on how to create a successful POLL on TBR. 
   I'll bone up on that this weekend considering @Texas Robin is laid up.

[Sighlass]

IMHO, this has the homosexual Barack Hussein Obama's fingerprints all over this crap.

He's been able to rise to POTUS, all while doing recreational drugs and living a blatant homosexual lifestyle, with a tranny beard and two phony girls passed off as his birth daughters.

Funny you mentioned this, it was Trump that put a gay gun-grabber judge (Patrick Bumatay from NY or course) on the 9th Circuit court in California... one that took his "husband" to the confirmation sessions ... He also has two daughters passed off as birth daughters.