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POTUS? in 2024

Trump- 100%
18 (15.5%)
Trump- Hold My Nose
17 (14.7%)
Skip POTUS, and vote down-ballot
51 (44%)
Biden
4 (3.4%)
Democrat alternative to Joe if he bows out by end of convention
3 (2.6%)
3rd Party, including RFK, Jr.
10 (8.6%)
I'll probably be too stoned to vote
13 (11.2%)

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #200 on: March 21, 2024, 07:37:42 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Please explain how you can have a total of 122% in a closed primary?  For that matter, in any "closed election"?    Thank you.

22% Haley, 3% other (all non-Trump).

22+3=25

Or you can work it this way: 100%-75% (Trump)=25% (not Trump)

Not sure how you got 122%
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #201 on: March 21, 2024, 07:43:23 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

Please explain how you can have a total of 122% in a closed primary?  For that matter, in any "closed election"?    Thank you.

75% + 25% =100%

ETA:  I must admit that I did not word that very well....and I caused confusion.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #202 on: March 21, 2024, 07:45:33 pm »
The point is, in AZ Trump got 75%, and I was expecting more.   :shrug:
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #203 on: March 21, 2024, 08:39:14 pm »
75% + 25% =100%

ETA:  I must admit that I did not word that very well....and I caused confusion.

@Cyber Liberty  @Smokin Joe

Okay...thank you.

Interpreted it to mean that DJT got 75% of the total votes...NH got 22%, so "Not for Trump" could only achieve 3% because "100%" equals total. 
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #204 on: March 21, 2024, 08:42:35 pm »
I caused confusion.

WELL YOU GOTTA DO WHAT YOU'RE GOOD AT.  :tongue2:

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #205 on: March 21, 2024, 08:54:55 pm »
Will remain in lurk mode so as not to ruffle your feathers

Yeah, right.


...if you will not acknowledge that Donald Trump is the ONLY choice to save our Republic from the path on which it is on....then you all need to get brain scans.

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to call all of you out.   You're all unprincipled Conservatives pretending to be Patriots.

Yesterday, @Bigun wrote an excellent post touting the reasons he was voting for Trump.  Seventeen justifications as to why Trump was getting his vote - all of them positive, inciteful, convincing, and best of all truthful.

After reviewing them, I admitted to myself that his argument was quite admirable and openly applauded his efforts.  I found myself today thinking about those reasons, and was reconsidering my vote. I was coming around, thinking that maybe these positives outweighed the negatives.

And then I read your post.  You can be rest assured that your words have once again driven me about as far away from voting for Trump as I have ever been.  Thank you for restoring my sanity and keeping me from making a huge mistake.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #206 on: March 21, 2024, 08:55:58 pm »
  We aren't exactly ahead in the game - right now the DEMS are winning and if they continue to win there won't be any coming back.



I see this alot. Gloom and doom. It's over if they win

But look at this administration. They've bumbled up everything they've touch. Look at the people in this administration. Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Granholm. Not exactly  a haven of smarts, there. They're grossly incompetent

I'm not being a Pollyanna. We face a lot of pitfalls and hardship. But we have to stop acting like the opposition is made  of super men and women
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #207 on: March 21, 2024, 09:02:09 pm »
I see this alot. Gloom and doom. It's over if they win

But look at this administration. They've bumbled everything they touch. Look at the people in this administration. Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Granholm. Not exactly  a haven of smarts, there. They're grossly incompetent

I'm not being a Pollyanna. We face a lot of pifalls and hardship. But we have to stop acting like the opposition is made  of super men and women

Perhaps you are independently wealthy and have no fear of our Republic collapsing because you have a one way ticket out of here on a really nice remote island with a beautiful mansion on it stocked with food and a security detail to protect you.

The opposition is not made of super men and women; they have just drastically out maneuvered those who tend to vote more conservatively and law abiding citizens, by stealing an election and trampling on the Constitution and have absolutely not been held accountable for decades. 

It is now  Soros and Obama who are in control of this country and IMHO those that don't see the writing on the wall are only fooling themselves.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #208 on: March 21, 2024, 09:07:10 pm »
You must be independently wealthy and have no fear of our Republic collapsing because you have a one way ticket out of here on a really nice remote island with a beautiful mansion on it stocked with food and a security detail to protect you.

Lol

I'm just a hospital RN. You don't get rich doing that or own mansions on an island

I consider myself middle class
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #209 on: March 21, 2024, 09:12:28 pm »
I see this alot. Gloom and doom. It's over if they win

But look at this administration. They've bumbled up everything they've touch. Look at the people in this administration. Harris, Blinken, Sullivan, Granholm. Not exactly  a haven of smarts, there. They're grossly incompetent

I'm not being a Pollyanna. We face a lot of pitfalls and hardship. But we have to stop acting like the opposition is made  of super men and women

Bitem stinks so damn bad, in all that Dems do, nothing but stink.
It's really saying something when Republicans can't offer something immediately and recognizably better.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #210 on: March 21, 2024, 09:13:08 pm »
You must be independently wealthy and have no fear of our Republic collapsing

Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #211 on: March 21, 2024, 09:17:13 pm »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #212 on: March 21, 2024, 09:24:56 pm »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

Except in reality if the terrorists or other subversive groups that they are allowing into our country decide to strike or if Brandon decides to allow the UN to have emergency powers over the U.S. in a couple of months, we won't have to worry about debt as we won't have a country left.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #213 on: March 21, 2024, 09:37:28 pm »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

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Ah yes. I see that getting so much better in a Biden (or Dem) administration.


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« Reply #214 on: March 21, 2024, 09:40:39 pm »
@Hoodat

Ah yes. I see that getting so much better in a Biden (or Dem) administration.

So you're saying that Trump is no different from Biden?
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« Reply #215 on: March 21, 2024, 09:45:03 pm »
Except in reality if the terrorists or other subversive groups that they are allowing into our country decide to strike or if Brandon decides to allow the UN to have emergency powers over the U.S. in a couple of months, we won't have to worry about debt as we won't have a country left.

Meanwhile, we will pay more this year for interest on this debt than we will spend on our entire national defense.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #216 on: March 21, 2024, 09:55:18 pm »
So you're saying that Trump is no different from Biden?

@Hoodat

No, and I'm a little concerned about your reasoning skills.  9999what


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« Reply #217 on: March 21, 2024, 09:57:41 pm »
@Hoodat

No, and I'm a little concerned about your reasoning skills.  9999what

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You seem to be making the case that Biden running up trillions in debt is bad and that we shouldn't vote for him because of it.  Is that correct?
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« Reply #218 on: March 21, 2024, 09:59:59 pm »
@AllThatJazzZ

You seem to be making the case that Biden running up trillions in debt is bad and that we shouldn't vote for him because of it.  Is that correct?

@Hoodat

I'm making the case that abstaining from voting for Trump on this issue doesn't improve the situation. If Biden/Dem gets in, it'll be worse.


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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #219 on: March 21, 2024, 10:06:03 pm »
Yeah, right.


Yesterday, @Bigun wrote an excellent post touting the reasons he was voting for Trump.  Seventeen justifications as to why Trump was getting his vote - all of them positive, inciteful, convincing, and best of all truthful.

After reviewing them, I admitted to myself that his argument was quite admirable and openly applauded his efforts.  I found myself today thinking about those reasons, and was reconsidering my vote. I was coming around, thinking that maybe these positives outweighed the negatives.

And then I read your post.  You can be rest assured that your words have once again driven me about as far away from voting for Trump as I have ever been.  Thank you for restoring my sanity and keeping me from making a huge mistake.

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LOL!  Both @Right_in_Virginia and myself live in your head RENT-FREE!

Have such a power over you...you can't stand it.   You're such a child...somebody who allows another's personality and posting style to affect for whom you'll cast a vote.

....can't bring myself to vote for President Trump because RIV and DCP are such [fill-in-the blanks]

I get seconds of mirth imagining you in bed staring at the ceiling in rage...heart beating 90+ times a minute because we are rabid "Tumpy Fans"

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« Reply #220 on: March 21, 2024, 10:09:11 pm »
@Hoodat

I'm making the case that abstaining from voting for Trump on this issue doesn't improve the situation. If Biden/Dem gets in, it'll be worse.

Adjusted for inflation, Trump ran up more debt than Biden.
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« Reply #221 on: March 21, 2024, 10:11:21 pm »
Have such a power over you...you can't stand it.   You're such a child...somebody who allows another's personality and posting style to affect for whom you'll cast a vote.

Don't flatter yourself.  It is your propensity for non-rational persuasion that drives me away, not your personality or posting style.  Same old logical fallacies over and over again.  You never learn.  You are unteachable.
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« Reply #222 on: March 21, 2024, 10:14:38 pm »
In 2028, the debt is estimated to be at 40 trillion. Forty trillion. You know the risk to the economy at that? We'll be printing money just to cover the interest, if we are not already

If you really want to save the republic, this is were it starts. This were "Make America great Again" starts. Fifteen trillion dollars in new spending on top of an unsustainable debt won't do it
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« Reply #223 on: March 21, 2024, 10:16:29 pm »
Don't flatter yourself.  It is your propensity for non-rational persuasion that drives me away, not your personality or posting style.  Same old logical fallacies over and over again.  You never learn.  You are unteachable.

BULLETIN~~~

We're not here to persuade you or anyone.

You've had EIGHT years to educate yourselves on what is a simple rudimentary binary choice for most anyone who could fog a mirror.

MAGA or Communism.

As @AllThatJazzZ recently suggested... YOUR reasoning skills are suspect.

edited to add...

Let me point out that this thread filled 4 pages from the date it began on March 8th.

Since @Right_in_Virginia and myself happened to enter the thread today, it's grown by 5 pages.

ROFL!   Happy trails!    :seeya:
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« Reply #224 on: March 21, 2024, 10:17:47 pm »
In 2028, the debt is estimated to be at 40 trillion. Forty trillion. You know the risk to the economy at that? We'll be printing money just to cover the interest, if we are not already

We are.
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« Reply #225 on: March 21, 2024, 10:18:33 pm »
BULLETIN~~~

We're not here to persuade you or anyone.

You've had EIGHT years to educate yourselves on what is a simple rudimentary binary choice for most anyone who could fog a mirror.

Like I said, logical fallacies.  QED.
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« Reply #226 on: March 21, 2024, 10:21:07 pm »
If Trump wants my vote, he can make this issue the centerpiece of his campaign. Acknowledge the mistakes of the past up to and including his, and move forward on this issue.

And for God sake's, dump the stupid tariff idea
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« Reply #227 on: March 21, 2024, 10:24:13 pm »
If Trump wants my vote, he can make this issue the centerpiece of his campaign. Acknowledge the mistakes of the past up to and including his, and move forward on this issue.

And for God sake's, dump the stupid tariff idea

He’s not really the type to admit to a mistake, is he?
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« Reply #228 on: March 21, 2024, 10:25:04 pm »
Like I said, logical fallacies.  QED.

POT-KETTLE-BLACK.

Yet you've publicly admitted TWICE that because of RIV and my posts on TBR...you can't bring yourself to vote for President Trump. 

I've put a spell on you.  LOL!

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« Reply #229 on: March 21, 2024, 10:26:39 pm »
He’s not really the type to admit to a mistake, is he?

   No he is not @deb  He has yet to own up that he got rolled by Fauci and brix during covid.
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« Reply #230 on: March 21, 2024, 10:26:52 pm »
He’s not really the type to admit to a mistake, is he?

Geez, @deb

Why is it so difficult to understand that the 100% tariffs will only be applied to Chinese automobiles?   :shrug:
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« Reply #231 on: March 21, 2024, 10:28:40 pm »
Geez, @deb

Why is it so difficult to understand that the 100% tariffs will only be applied to Chinese automobiles?   :shrug:

Automobiles don't pay tariffs.  (See:  Logical fallacies)
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #232 on: March 21, 2024, 10:29:40 pm »
Geez, @deb

Why is it so difficult to understand that the 100% tariffs will only be applied to Chinese automobiles?   :shrug:

You may want to address LMAO since he’s the one who mentioned tariffs.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #233 on: March 21, 2024, 10:35:50 pm »
Automobiles don't pay tariffs.  (See:  Logical fallacies)

Automobile manufacturers certainly will...stroke of a pen.
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #234 on: March 21, 2024, 10:36:18 pm »
Automobiles don't pay tariffs.  (See:  Logical fallacies)

American consumers do

And the 100% tariffs he wants on EVs from China is on top of the 60% tariffs on other goods from China he wants plus 10% tariffs on goods from other nation's

All that extra cost is passed  on to American consumers. That's who ultimately pays  His tariffs the first time triggered a trade war and cost the economy. And inflation was lower then. Throw those extra costs on top of inflation

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« Reply #235 on: March 21, 2024, 10:40:33 pm »
American consumers do

And the 100% tariffs he wants on EVs from China is on top of the 60% tariffs on other goods from China he wants plu10% tariffs on goods from other nation's

All that extra cost is passed  on to American consumers.

LOL!  So what?  Let's make it a 200% tariff on Chinese manufacturered automobiles.  Or even 300%??

Buy a damned Japanese or Korean car.

I'm partial to German autos, myself.   Over 203K on the clock with simple oil changes, brakes and tires.   :laugh:
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #236 on: March 21, 2024, 10:41:16 pm »
American consumers do

And the 100% tariffs he wants on EVs from China is on top of the 60% tariffs on other goods from China he wants plus 10% tariffs on goods from other nation's

All that extra cost is passed  on to American consumers. That's who ultimately pays  His tariffs the first time triggered a trade war and cost the economy. And inflation was lower then. Throw those extra costs on top of inflation

ESPECIALLY on those items not available except through China. Different story if like Reagan, he was protecting an American business... At least there is a logic to that.

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« Reply #237 on: March 21, 2024, 10:44:26 pm »
LOL!  So what?  Let's make it a 200% tariff on Chinese manufacturered automobiles.  Or even 300%??

Buy a damned Japanese or Korean car.

I'm partial to German autos, myself.   Over 203K on the clock with simple oil changes, brakes and tires.   :laugh:

I had a Toyota minivan that I traded in that had 289,000 miles on it for an SUV about 6 years ago

Ran great and required very little maintenance

What brand of auto is Korean?
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #238 on: March 21, 2024, 10:46:20 pm »
Here is the NUMBER ONE THREAT that the American Republic faces today:



And not once have I heard Donald Trump mention it.

NOBODY wants to talk about the solution. Except me that is!

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #239 on: March 21, 2024, 10:50:27 pm »
American consumers do

And the 100% tariffs he wants on EVs from China is on top of the 60% tariffs on other goods from China he wants plus 10% tariffs on goods from other nation's

All that extra cost is passed  on to American consumers. That's who ultimately pays  His tariffs

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #240 on: March 21, 2024, 10:56:30 pm »
American consumers do

And the 100% tariffs he wants on EVs from China is on top of the 60% tariffs on other goods from China he wants plus 10% tariffs on goods from other nation's

All that extra cost is passed  on to American consumers. That's who ultimately pays  His tariffs the first time triggered a trade war and cost the economy. And inflation was lower then. Throw those extra costs on top of inflation

Here's a clue! STOP buying the CHICOM shit!
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #241 on: March 21, 2024, 10:57:07 pm »
Alrighty --- thanks. 

While  "A Cop in Every Bedroom" is a tough political slogan to sell to the masses; you just might be the one to breathe power into it. 🤞

Have you seen a pride parade, it ain't the bedroom anymore than it was to begin with. It is in the streets, in the classrooms, in the freaking halls of congress caught on film. Like I said, you keep harping on bedrooms and like I said, it ain't bedrooms anymore, it is adoptions rights, it is now in classrooms keeping parents from even knowing what they push on kids.

Do you supports Trumps positions on this?
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #242 on: March 21, 2024, 10:58:09 pm »
ESPECIALLY on those items not available except through China. Different story if like Reagan, he was protecting an American business... At least there is a logic to that.

Maybe! Just maybe we should consider getting the USA back into the manufacturing business!
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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #243 on: March 21, 2024, 10:59:22 pm »
Here's a clue! STOP buying the CHICOM shit!

No, you literally can't.

First you have to START making American shit. THEN you can stop buying CHICOM shit.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #244 on: March 21, 2024, 11:00:40 pm »
Maybe! Just maybe we should consider getting the USA back into the manufacturing business!

I'm all for it. That's a whole nuther thing from tariffs.

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« Reply #245 on: March 21, 2024, 11:05:07 pm »
No, you literally can't.

First you have to START making American shit. THEN you can stop buying CHICOM shit.

Bullshit!
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« Reply #246 on: March 21, 2024, 11:07:11 pm »
Bullshit!

No, it's not. When Tumpy shut off the ports, that should have been a clue. Whole sectors of American business shut down for lack of parts.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #247 on: March 21, 2024, 11:08:12 pm »
@Sighlass

Ahhh,a morality Nazi!

Please tell us all what types of sex we can enjoy,who  we can enjoy them with,and where we can buy  the permits to have sex..

<--- your man is literally waving their flag Pete. Morality goes both ways... and when kids are involved with adoptions and school classrooms, durn right I will not shut up and start waving the very flag that hates me. Why don't you grab up a BLM flag and wave it too while you are at it. Heck, pick up a commie flag too. If ya don't, you must be some sorta right wing nazi at least to some folks.

If this (picture linked below is NSFW) is normal for you then please don't ever ping me again on this forum. I thought 6 months on my block list you would take the hint. Does this look like a bedroom to you? Those men behind the leading edge of the float are not faking. This is on a main street.

Image NSFW or any other place IMHO.

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Re: Pulse of Briefers- Election Sentiment 8 Months Out
« Reply #248 on: March 21, 2024, 11:08:43 pm »
I'm all for it. That's a whole nuther thing from tariffs.

Really? I'm not fond of tariffs as a matter of simple economics but when the marketplace is grossly slanted in favor of people who will not play by the rules, they ARE appropriate.

I'm all in favor of pricing the CHICOMS out of markets everywhere by any means necessary.
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« Reply #249 on: March 21, 2024, 11:10:25 pm »
No, it's not. When Tumpy shut off the ports, that should have been a clue. Whole sectors of American business shut down for lack of parts.

Did Trump send all of our manufacturing to China? Seems to me that happened LONG before Trump came along.
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