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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #250 on: January 18, 2024, 08:05:53 am »
People who support Trump are not evil - they have been left out and left behind by the New World Order of the 1990s.

They have also been abandoned and been ignored by Establishment Dems and Repubs.

As a hardworking American patriot, it's infuriating to see the Unity Party selling out America to the Chi-coms and other nations that are not truly America's friends - i.e., Saudi Arabia.

Trump is not the disease; he is a symptom of a political Establishment that is failing the American People.

The American People want an American Government that serves Americans, first, before wasting blood and treasure trying to save the rest of the world from themselves.

I agree with this

There is a reason why Trump enjoys such an unquestioning loyalty amongst his base and it’s because of those issues you listed. I have a sister-in-law that says that anyone who votes for Trump is a bad person. That is not true at  all.

People saw their kids die in the Middle East, their tax dollars being sent to rebuild Iraq while our borders remain open. And any criticism of open borders was met with charges of xenophobe from our elected leaders

Jobs go overseas while our leaders become wealthy. There was a vacuum to be filled, and Trump filled it. And the more Trump’s detractors go after him, the more entrenched his base of followers become

But rational thinking has gone out the window. They’ve picked the wrong person, but for many of the right reasons. They excuse Trump’s  many flaws and destructive behaviors and political positions, many of which they would never allow from a Democrat or even another Republican.

MAGA isn’t a cult. But it shares many characteristics. We have a particular poster here who believes that if you don’t vote for Donald Trump, you want the status quo. Of course, that’s not true at all.

But it’s their belief that when Trump goes away, the Republican party goes back to the George W. Bush era, and that is a real possibility and a danger. And that concern is shared by both conservatives and MAGAs

When Trump says that he could shoot somebody on fifth Avenue, and his base of supporters will still stand behind him, that’s not an exaggeration. Most people would abandon a candidate who did that

I have not seen one example of those of us who do not support Donald Trump that will post things about him that are untrue. I can’t say the same for his supporters. And when you post something about his record or statement he made that is true, and they don’t like it, they either will avoid the subject or attack you personally. There’s a perfect example of where I was on the receiving end of that on this thread. But everything I posted about Donald Trump was true and verifiable.

After the Republican party loses this election this fall, it needs to have a massive soul-searching. But after Trump, Republican ignore many of his supporters concerns at their peril
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #251 on: January 18, 2024, 08:08:22 am »
And that money is going to be used to maximum effect come this fall

His latest from his legal team about the president being able to use seal team six to assassinate political rivals is another soundbite for the Democrats.
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@LMAO

Who made that claim,and when?

SEAL Team 6 is no different than any other US Military organization. The commanders AND the enlisted swine have a sworn obligation to NOT follow illegal orders,and I am having a hard time trying to think of an order MORE illegal than an order for a military organization to commit assassinations against a US politician. 

Call me a "starry-eyed dreamer" but I find it impossible to believe that the "shooters" in SEAL Team 6 or any other elite military organization would follow any such order,regardless of who issued the order or the consequences. That sort of thing may be acceptable in police states like China and Russia,but NOT in the US.

Hell,I consider the likely hood of ANY Seal Team officer receiving such an order to follow it to verge on the impossible. First of all,there is no way an actual SEAL Team or any other elite US Military organization would do anything less than tell the officer issuing the order to go piss up a rope. You don't get to serve in elite military organizations if you are dumber than dirt,never mind become an officer.

AND,you can bet your bippy  that the senior enlisted  swine in ALL the elites organizations know how to get back in touch with senior commanders they used to serve with who can then in turn get in touch with the proper authorities to have the commander that gave those orders arrested.

Or,if for whatever reason they couldn't do that,I would look for the officer that issued those orders to have a "tragic accident". It might not be fatal,but it would be serious enough to get them removed from Spec Ops duty,and maybe result in medical retirement.

The people that volunteer for and serve on these teams are NOT dummies and they have a VERY strong sense of both duty and honor. Bleep with one and find out for yourself.

Those of you  who never served in one of these elite small units might be surprised to know that in many/most cases,the enlisted swine and the officers call each other by their first names when no one NOT on the team isn't around. I write "many/most" because I don't know everyone who ever served on all of these teams from the various branches. Or even in the SF "Special Operations" teams.

Sometimes you don't even know what good friends from previous teams are doing. It was not uncommon to meet an old friend you hadn't seen in a while and when you ask him "What are you doing these days",and get a reply like "Oh,this,that,and the other." You immediately know better than to ask any more questions related to their current duty assignment. If you were a Special Operations operator and met another Special Operations operator you  had served with previously,you would probably get a response like "I am working with Project whatever",and THAT is all you need to know to understand that you  need to stop asking those questions unless maybe you  want to volunteer and ask your friend to put in a good word for you. IF there is an opening and IF the commander thinks you would be suitable,you will soon get  orders coming in that will order your transfer,and you can  and will get briefed on what you  need to know when you  get there. BTW,this ONLY works for career guys that have pulled special ops duties before and who are known operators.

I am only guessing that the Special Operations units in the rest of the military "recruit members" like the US Army does. The VERY first thing done is a complete background check. I am talking about going deep enough  they question your high school principle about your character and conduct. You don't pass that or there are any questions about your character,you  will never hear of them and you  will never even hear why you weren't accepted. This is all for actual team members. I suspect the background test for administrative people attached to special operations unit meets the same basic requirements,but without the combat background.

In ALL cases the ultimate decision lays in the hands of the team leader. If the team leader doesn't want you for whatever reason,you don't get on THAT team,period. You might get accepted later for assignment to another team if there is an opening,but you wait for it to happen,you don't make it happen.

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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #252 on: January 18, 2024, 08:12:48 am »
True

But this election is looking like the 1976 election for the Republicans

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Thanks to Chemo Brain,I can't even remember the 1976 elections.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #253 on: January 18, 2024, 08:12:57 am »
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@LMAO

Who made that claim,and when?

SEAL Team 6 is no different than any other US Military organization. The commanders AND the enlisted swine have a sworn obligation to NOT follow illegal orders,and I am having a hard time trying to think of an order MORE illegal than an order for a military organization to commit assassinations against a US politician. 

Call me a "starry-eyed dreamer" but I find it impossible to believe that the "shooters" in SEAL Team 6 or any other elite military organization would follow any such order,regardless of who issued the order or the consequences. That sort of thing may be acceptable in police states like China and Russia,but NOT in the US.

Hell,I consider the likely hood of ANY Seal Team officer receiving such an order to follow it to verge on the impossible. First of all,there is no way an actual SEAL Team or any other elite US Military organization would do anything less than tell the officer issuing the order to go piss up a rope. You don't get to serve in elite military organizations if you are dumber than dirt,never mind become an officer.

AND,you can bet your bippy  that the senior enlisted  swine in ALL the elites organizations know how to get back in touch with senior commanders they used to serve with who can then in turn get in touch with the proper authorities to have the commander that gave those orders arrested.

Or,if for whatever reason they couldn't do that,I would look for the officer that issued those orders to have a "tragic accident". It might not be fatal,but it would be serious enough to get them removed from Spec Ops duty,and maybe result in medical retirement.

The people that volunteer for and serve on these teams are NOT dummies and they have a VERY strong sense of both duty and honor. Bleep with one and find out for yourself.

Those of you  who never served in one of these elite small units might be surprised to know that in many/most cases,the enlisted swine and the officers call each other by their first names when no one NOT on the team isn't around. I write "many/most" because I don't know everyone who ever served on all of these teams from the various branches. Or even in the SF "Special Operations" teams.

Sometimes you don't even know what good friends from previous teams are doing. It was not uncommon to meet an old friend you hadn't seen in a while and when you ask him "What are you doing these days",and get a reply like "Oh,this,that,and the other." You immediately know better than to ask any more questions related to their current duty assignment. If you were a Special Operations operator and met another Special Operations operator you  had served with previously,you would probably get a response like "I am working with Project whatever",and THAT is all you need to know to understand that you  need to stop asking those questions unless maybe you  want to volunteer and ask your friend to put in a good word for you. IF there is an opening and IF the commander thinks you would be suitable,you will soon get  orders coming in that will order your transfer,and you can  and will get briefed on what you  need to know when you  get there. BTW,this ONLY works for career guys that have pulled special ops duties before and who are known operators.

I am only guessing that the Special Operations units in the rest of the military "recruit members" like the US Army does. The VERY first thing done is a complete background check. I am talking about going deep enough  they question your high school principle about your character and conduct. You don't pass that or there are any questions about your character,you  will never hear of them and you  will never even hear why you weren't accepted. This is all for actual team members. I suspect the background test for administrative people attached to special operations unit meets the same basic requirements,but without the combat background.

In ALL cases the ultimate decision lays in the hands of the team leader. If the team leader doesn't want you for whatever reason,you don't get on THAT team,period. You might get accepted later for assignment to another team if there is an opening,but you wait for it to happen,you don't make it happen.

It was a claim his legal team made in defense of Trump’s  presidential immunity

What it ends up doing is giving the Democratic Party another soundbite
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #254 on: January 18, 2024, 08:14:48 am »
   

    Where Manafort/Stone locked Reagan out of the Convention, giving us Carter.

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REALLY?

HTH did they manage to do that and get away with it?
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #255 on: January 18, 2024, 08:18:43 am »
When someone posts lies and those lies are factually rebutted and then the lies continue to be posted, that makes the poster a liar. Being paid to do it is even worse.

When the shoe fits, it fits.

@DB

Someone is being paid to tell lies about a poster or posters here?

Who is it,and more importantly,who is doing the paying?
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #256 on: January 18, 2024, 08:25:44 am »
OK, I admit, I did accuse her of lying here.  But I didn't call her a liar.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,515141.msg2923149.html#msg2923149

I'm sorry, @mystery-ak and @Cyber Liberty

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Say WHAT?????

There is a difference?

If someone is lying,they are,by definition a liar. Maybe not an "habitual liar",but a liar,none the less.

Don't get me wrong,I understand VERY well that it is possible to be wrong while being convinced  that you are right,but that just makes you wrong. It doesn't make you a liar.

A liar is someone that tells lies purposely,and knows they are lies.

BTW,I don't  have a dog in this fight,but some things are just too obvious to ignore.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #257 on: January 18, 2024, 08:29:44 am »
Before I post a claim, I will verify its veracity. It isn’t foolproof. But having credibility is important to me especially in these days of misinformation

But when a claim is proven to be untrue, but the individual making the claim still sticks to the false narrative, then it’s safe to say that person is knowingly promoting a lie

@LMAO

Well,yes,and no.

MOST of us here most likely  consider Biden to be a senile old fool who was an evil bastard even BEFORE he became senile.

Yet,there really ARE Biden supporters who honestly think he is the best thing since sliced bread.

Sometimes the ARE no valid explanations for things that happen or that are said.

Or as a wise observer once noted "Biden happens!"
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #258 on: January 18, 2024, 08:32:33 am »
How do you see him as a conservative??  The only conservative in the race is DeSantis, where was his support for him?

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ROFLMAO!

THAT,right THERE,is sum funny Biden!
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #259 on: January 18, 2024, 08:37:40 am »
...hmmm....and the topic is:  Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president .....

I find this endorsement from Cruz disheartening and him backing the GOPe rather than a conservative.  Again, where was his support for DeSantis, a true conservative?

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If you honestly believe that DeSanctimonious is a "true conservative",your definition of a "true conservative" is WILDLY different than mine.

I seem to recall that you are wildly "anti-war". Is your support for that buffoon based on your believe he is a spineless weasel that would be afraid to get us involved in a war for any reason at all?

Or am I mistaken about your anti-war beliefs?

I consider Ted Cruz to not only be one of the smartest men in politics,but also one that is very conservative.

What is it,in your mind,that I am missing?
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #260 on: January 18, 2024, 08:39:51 am »
That's right. Like I said, don't expect much standing up out of Cruz no more... He's lost his starch.

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So,he was ok in your book,right up to the moment that he gave his support to Trump,and now you are done with him?

Trump just lives rent-free inside your head 24/7,doesn't he?

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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #261 on: January 18, 2024, 08:43:45 am »
@libertybele

ROFLMAO!

THAT,right THERE,is sum funny Biden!

What’s sum funny Biden is your reaction whenever someone says DeSantis is a conservative. But you never challenge the conservative credentials of Ron DeSantis



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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #262 on: January 18, 2024, 09:29:27 am »
@libertybele

If you honestly believe that DeSanctimonious is a "true conservative",your definition of a "true conservative" is WILDLY different than mine.

I seem to recall that you are wildly "anti-war". Is your support for that buffoon based on your believe he is a spineless weasel that would be afraid to get us involved in a war for any reason at all?

Or am I mistaken about your anti-war beliefs?

I consider Ted Cruz to not only be one of the smartest men in politics,but also one that is very conservative.

What is it,in your mind,that I am missing?

What you ARE missing @sneakypete is that DeSantis IS a true conservative. Anti-war? Well, I'd definitely much rather have peace than war.  Ok, yes we need to defend OUR country, but who's defending it?  We have millions of ILLEGALS entering this country. 

As for Cruz, yes he is brilliant.  There is no doubt about it. He went up against Trump in '16 and lost (obviously), but he  also withstood Trump's lies and slandering against him and his family.  Yet, when Trump became president he backed him when he thought he was right.  He urged Trump to build the wall while he had a full majority and Trump ignored him ... we all now know that Cruz was right about that and Trump FAILED to build the wall.

Now Cruz is backing Trump who is NOT a conservative rather than backing a conservative. I find that troubling.  I see that as Cruz softening his conservative backbone; not a good thing.

I don't have the same viewpoint on Trump as I once did.  I now see him as failing to keep his promises, dictatorial, narcissistic, a populist at best and bent on retribution rather than focused on MAGA.  He FAILED on calming the riots when he had a chance and things are still out of hand, he FAILED to build the wall and things are still out of hand.  He FAILED to implement policies as most of his e.o.'s went out the window.  Here we sit.  Secondly, he slandered conservatives and conservatism.  No thank you.  I will NOT vote for him.

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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #263 on: January 18, 2024, 09:31:33 am »
He only backed Trump after he won Iowa, and DeSantis wasn't close.   So I don't believe Cruz is choosing Trump over DeSantis as much as he believes that the primary is essentially over.  He's backing Trump because he believes Trump is better than Biden and therefore should be supported.  I don't agree, but I get it.

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Careful there! You are in danger of getting booted out of the "He man,True Murikan Club" if you keep posting rational posts like that!

I SUSPECT (without actually knowing) that Cruz,being the sharp guy that he is,just MIGHT have been having some private "back door discussions about politics" with Trump,and helped Trump to the point that he may have learned from some of the mistakes me made during his previous term in the WH.

NOBODY can get step right into the WH and hope to succeed without help and  advise from the career pols and bureaucrats. The job is just too complex and as is true with running a business,you  MUST rely on the advise of your experienced advisors.

The prime difference being that in business it is all about turning a profit and expanding,and in politics,it is too often about trying to regain ground already lost or keep what you have already gained. ANY non-career politician put into that atmosphere is operating in a fog and MUST rely on advisors to help them paddle though those murky waters.

*I* see Ted Cruz,who *I* see as one of the smartest and most passionate about "fixing" what is wrong with America,possibly becoming a political advisor to Trump as a VERY positive thing.

As I have stated here before to the disbelief of the people here who seem to think you have to love a politician to vote for them,that I do NOT like Trump as a person and wouldn't  let him in my house if he came knocking at the door.

MY personal likes and dislikes have nothing to do with the reality we are living under is that we either get a President this time that cares more about his ego and how he gets written about in the history books than anything else in the world,or America as a free and independent nation is OVER because we WILL become a part of the "International Socialist Borg" under the alleged leadership of anyone else.

ALL Trump cares about his how he gets written about in the history books,and given his ego,he wants to go down in history as "The President that saved America".
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #264 on: January 18, 2024, 09:38:17 am »
@Jack Russell

"Like another poster said, Cruz realized after Iowa that DeSantis can't possibly win and Trump will take the nomination by a landslide.  He's probably thinking that if the party were to rally around Trump instead of fracturing the party between now and the general election, that maybe House and Senate seats could be won by focusing on them.  Just a thought.  I'm not faulting Cruz on this."

BINGO!
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #265 on: January 18, 2024, 09:41:42 am »
If I called you a "Liar", it's because you're an effing Liar.  Your favorite pastime was chasing RIV around the forum accusing her of lying...to the point I had to come out of a long period of lurk-mode just to kick your ass.

As Casey Stengel said..."You can look it up!"

@DCPatriot   @Hoodat

True Dat!

To the point where it looked personal.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #266 on: January 18, 2024, 09:42:33 am »
@Jack Russell

"Like another poster said, Cruz realized after Iowa that DeSantis can't possibly win and Trump will take the nomination by a landslide.  He's probably thinking that if the party were to rally around Trump instead of fracturing the party between now and the general election, that maybe House and Senate seats could be won by focusing on them.  Just a thought.  I'm not faulting Cruz on this."

BINGO!

Possibly, except most of the candidate that Trump has endorsed lately have lost. 

I posted the stats in another post regarding the Iowa caucus and more younger people voted for DeSantis than Trump.  Let that sink in.

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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #267 on: January 18, 2024, 09:47:18 am »
Before I post a claim, I will verify its veracity. It isn’t foolproof. But having credibility is important to me especially in these days of misinformation

But when a claim is proven to be untrue, but the individual making the claim still sticks to the false narrative, then it’s safe to say that person is knowingly promoting a lie

@LMAO

Not really.

IF someone TRULY believes something to be true,what passes as evidence it ISN'T true to me or thee is NOT seen as proof to them.

"Truth" is an opinion in the minds of those who hear or read it.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #268 on: January 18, 2024, 09:50:36 am »
If you want to know why Republicans keep losing elections: just read this thread.

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Sad,but VERY true.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #269 on: January 18, 2024, 09:52:20 am »
You could start by giving me something to vote *for*... And federal cities and federal baby bucks ain't it.

@roamer_1

OK,how about YOU tell us who the PERFECT candidate would be from YOUR POV,and explain to us why he or she isn't running?

Politics,like life,ain't perfect,and neither is ANY politician.

Or voter,AFATG.

Other than me,that is.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #270 on: January 18, 2024, 09:55:29 am »
Look: we all agree that Democrats are wrong about pretty much everything.

And whatever we do agree about is consumed by an orange inferno that sucks the oxygen out of every room, feeding the flames.

I don't care for a lot of things Trump does and says. But when he was President, the truth is that we were all a lot better off, in spite of his stupid antics.

So if it's him vs. Joe Bite-Me, I am going to check the "R' box and pray. A lot.

@andy58-in-nh

Who the hell do you think you are, to be bringing reason into this discussion?

Wadda yew,sum kinda commie?

Ahm temptid ta re-port yew to de athorities,boy!
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #271 on: January 18, 2024, 09:57:02 am »
Oh HELL no. He shut it OFF. He shut it all off. My company failed long before Buydem ascended.
Everything closed. Couldn't get parts at any price - ANY parts. Inflation SAILING through the roof. Cost of goods... The whole damn show.

People seem to have selective memory.

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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #272 on: January 18, 2024, 10:03:20 am »
Oh I still don't think Trump stands a chance....

Ditto. The leftists are never going to let him near the WH again, regardless of what it takes for them to accomplish that.

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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #273 on: January 18, 2024, 10:07:18 am »
It was a claim his legal team made in defense of Trump’s  presidential immunity

What it ends up doing is giving the Democratic Party another soundbite

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True,and that legal team needs to be on welfare,not working Presidential,or even local,politics.
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Re: Ted Cruz endorses Donald Trump for president.
« Reply #274 on: January 18, 2024, 10:09:39 am »
After the Republican party loses this election this fall, it needs to have a massive soul-searching. But after Trump, Republican ignore many of his supporters concerns at their peril

No... By the time they are done with their involvement with Tump they will be social pariahs