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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #450 on: October 23, 2023, 04:58:49 am »
Breaking: Hamas claims Israel unleashed a dragon on Gaza and has
so far burned 3,000,000 people there. The story has been confirmed by BBC.
Breaking: Hamas claims Israel unleashed a dragon on Gaza and has so far burned 3,000,000 people there. The story has been confirmed by BBC.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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« Reply #451 on: October 23, 2023, 05:04:55 am »
Maybe I am not remembering correctly, but hostilities between the two remained throughout the period up to W's time.  Too tired too look it up.

Maybe a more accurate representation is that "W" took out the balance.  That can not be disputed.

I thought it had something to do with his father GHWB and Desert Storm...Saddam's invasion of Kuwait.
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« Reply #452 on: October 23, 2023, 05:37:51 am »
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #453 on: October 23, 2023, 07:19:46 am »
We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time. So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams.

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« Reply #454 on: October 23, 2023, 09:12:37 am »
*** WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT *** Horror: IDF Screens Raw Footage of Hamas Terror Attack for Media

Joel B. Pollak 23 Oct 2023

GLILOT BASE, Israel — I wanted it to stop at 17 minutes in. But I had to watch. We had to bear witness.

This is what we saw.

A father and two sons, in their underwear, having just woken up, are trying to flee from their home.

The father picks up one boy and all three run to a shelter in the back yard.

A terrorist peers over the fence and lobs a grenade into the shelter. It bounces off the back wall and explodes.

The father’s body falls forward. A boy appears, covered in his father’s blood, looking at his father.

For a moment, you think the terrorists will shoot him.

Instead, the armed terrorists bring the boys inside, into the home.

One boy sits on a chair, the other on a couch, both still in their underwear, both covered in trickles of blood, theirs and their father’s. They wail: “Daddy! Daddy!” The boy on the couch says, “Itay, I think they are going to kill us.”

A terrorist — with a Palestinian flag patch on his flak jacket — opens the fridge and asks if they want water — “mayim,” in Hebrew. The one on the couch replies, in English, that he wants his mother — not “mayim,” but “mommy.” He repeats: “Mommy. Mommy.”

Then comes the worst moment of all.

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #455 on: October 23, 2023, 09:14:24 am »
Jews, Arabs Unite in Israel Against Palestinian Hamas Terror

The war against Palestinian Hamas terrorists has united Jewish and Arab Israelis as never before, after years of worries that tensions between the two communities might destabilize Israeli society.

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« Reply #456 on: October 23, 2023, 09:15:34 am »
"Free gaza"
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
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« Reply #457 on: October 23, 2023, 09:15:54 am »
Israeli President: Hamas Terrorists Had Instructions to Manufacture Cyanide Weapons

Israel’s ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, told Britain’s Sky News on Sunday that Hamas terrorists were found with USB drives that included instructions on how to manufacture cyanide for use against Israelis.

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« Reply #458 on: October 23, 2023, 09:33:23 am »
BLM activist Shaun King ‘lying’ about claims he helped free American hostages in Gaza, family says: ‘We are not affiliated’

By Richard Pollina
Published Oct. 23, 2023

The family of the two American hostages freed by Hamas terrorists has accused Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King of lying when he claimed he worked “frantically behind the scenes” to help secure their release.

Natalie Raanan, 17, and her mother, Judith Tai Raanan, 59, were freed by Hamas on Friday after spending nearly two weeks in captivity following the terror group’s bloody Oct. 7 attack on Israel.

After news broke that the mom and daughter were free, King, 44, appeared to take some credit for their safe return.

“Hamas has just freed the teenager Natalie Raanan and her mother. I’m grateful. As I said last week, Natalie and her family have been supporters of mine and protested police violence in America alongside us,” King wrote in an Instagram post on Friday.

“I am also thankful for the Qatari government for helping to negotiate this. Dozens of us worked frantically behind the scenes to help make this possible. I spoke to Natalie’s family this afternoon and they are anxiously awaiting more updates.”

However, members of the Raanan family are saying the activist fabricated his involvement and that he did nothing to help, according to reports.

“First and foremost, we make it clear that he is lying! Our family does not and did not have anything to do with him, neither directly nor indirectly. Not to him and not to anything he claims to represent,” Raanan family members wrote in a statement obtained by TMZ.

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Source:  https://nypost.com/2023/10/23/family-of-natalie-and-judith-raanan-say-shaun-king-is-lying-about-claims-he-helped-aid-hostage-release/

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #459 on: October 23, 2023, 09:39:23 am »

Maybe a more accurate representation is that "W" took out the balance.  That can not be disputed.

Yup.  Saddam kept Iran in check.  By removing Saddam,  W ploughed he field for the steady advance of Iran's power and influence in the Middle East -- and beyond.

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« Reply #460 on: October 23, 2023, 09:43:40 am »
 Israel bombards Gaza, Lebanon as Netanyahu convenes war cabinet
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Published Oct. 23, 2023, 2:59 a.m. ET

Israel bombarded Gaza with air strikes early on Monday and its aircraft struck southern Lebanon overnight, as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu convened a meeting of his top generals and his war cabinet to assess the escalating conflict.

Israel’s attacks concentrated on the Gaza Strip’s centre and north, Palestinian media reported.

A strike on a house near the Jabalia refugee camp, in northern Gaza, killed several Palestinians and wounded others, according to media reports.

In the Israeli-occupied West Bank, two Palestinians were killed at the Jalazone refugee camp near Ramallah, the Palestinian health ministry said on Monday.

Residents told Reuters that Israeli forces raided the camp and carried out widespread arrests, as they clashed with gunmen and some youths who threw stones. The Israeli army has not issued a statement about the incident.

Health authorities in Gaza said at least 4,600 people were killed in Israel’s two-week bombardment that began after a Hamas Oct. 7 rampage on southern Israeli communities in which 1,400 people were killed and 212 were taken into Gaza as hostages.

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« Reply #463 on: October 23, 2023, 09:55:44 am »
We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time. So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams.


https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1716124806666416555

I think what we are witnessing is not a denial of the Holocaust, but its fading in influence  ---- a function of time, with multiple generations distanced from the war and power of the atrocities.  I'm not sure that power can be reignited.

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« Reply #464 on: October 23, 2023, 09:58:49 am »
We are witnessing a Holocaust denial-like phenomenon unfolding in real time. So tomorrow, Israel will screen for foreign journalists the raw, unedited footage of Hamas’ atrocities in the October 7 Massacre, as captured by its death squads’ body cams.

https://twitter.com/EylonALevy/status/1716124806666416555

Already saw enough, gore, blood, and charred bodies in HD quality, just last week. No thanks, I'll pass. I was never on Hamas side but I have to profess ignorance at the specifics of the Israel/Palestine strife since 1940's. Since seeing the footage I'm sort of more than ever on Israel's side. Seems like even if they kill every Hamas members this will almost certainly happen again at some point. And even worse.

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« Reply #468 on: October 23, 2023, 11:16:17 am »
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« Reply #469 on: October 23, 2023, 11:21:31 am »
Alright, it's tin foil hat time.

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« Reply #471 on: October 23, 2023, 11:42:47 am »
Is the ground war imminent................./s



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« Reply #474 on: October 23, 2023, 11:54:00 am »
I had a chance meeting with a survivor of that attack.

I was riding the subway home from hich school in the city.  The guy was standing next to me.  He was headed to a rehab center for help with his traumatic brain injury.

He said the weaponry that was used to secure the perimeter only rotated 180 degrees.  So, once the suicide bombers were inside the perimeter, those guns were useless.  That's how the suicide bombers were able to get so close to the barracks.


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« Reply #476 on: October 23, 2023, 11:56:50 am »
I had a chance meeting with a survivor of that attack.

I was riding the subway home from hich school in the city.  The guy was standing next to me.  He was headed to a rehab center for help with his traumatic brain injury.

He said the weaponry that was used to secure the perimeter only rotated 180 degrees.  So, once the suicide bombers were inside the perimeter, those guns were useless.  That's how the suicide bombers were able to get so close to the barracks.

The guns were useless anyway because, IIRC, they were not loaded.
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The line has already been crossed ... murdered and kidnapped Americans ... when does the carpet bombing of Tehran start?
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Israel struck 320+ military targets in Gaza Strip from Sunday into Monday: IDF
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In a "real-time update" posted on its website Monday, the Israel Defense Forces said it struck more than 320 military targets in the Gaza Strip over a daylong period.

"The terror targets were struck based on IDF and ISA [Israel Security Authority] intelligence, and included tunnels containing Hamas terrorists, dozens of operational command centers (some of which concealed Hamas and Islamic Jihad terrorists) and more," said the news brief, published at 8:50 a.m. local time (1:50 a.m. ET).

"The IDF struck targets that posed a threat to forces in the area surrounding the Gaza Strip who are preparing for ground operations, including dozens of mortar shell and anti-tank missile launch posts.

"Overnight, an IDF tank thwarted a number of terrorist cells, including an anti-tank missile cell."

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« Reply #482 on: October 23, 2023, 12:55:06 pm »
The guns were useless anyway because, IIRC, they were not loaded.

I had a Marine in my battery in the late 80's who had been there.

The guards had live ammo in their magazines, but they didn't have rounds chambered.  It was even worse with the crew served weapons because the belts of ammo weren't even allowed to have been in the weapon at all, even unchambered.   The guards armed with rifles essentially had to make two decisions -- the decision to chamber and the decision to fire -- based on the same criteria -- that they had to act "immediately" in self-defense.  Well, by definition, you couldn't fire when that was the case because you first had to chamber the weapons.  And by the time you did that, you'd missed the "immediate" window for opening fire.

Crew-served weapons had no chance at all, and the rifle fire alone likely would not have been enough even if those guys did have time.

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 Fox News reporter Trey Yingst visibly shaken as he shares gruesome details of Hamas terrorist’s Israel massacre confession
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Published Oct. 23, 2023, 12:11 p.m. ET

Fox News war correspondent Trey Yingst said he had to censor the brutality uttered by a captured Hamas terrorist who admitted to doing “things humans do not do.”

Yingst obtained a video of what the terrorist told Israeli forces, but spared viewers the most disturbing details from his confession of the Oct. 7 massacre that killed more than 1,400 Israelis.

“I do need to warn our viewers, what I am about to describe is incredibly graphic, but it gives new details on what took place two weeks ago,” the visibly shaken reporter said during Saturday’s broadcast.

The terrorist told interrogators their “commanders said they could do whatever they felt like doing and that this was a suicide mission, telling them they should not plan on coming back,” according to the video, which was first reported on by Mediaite.

“He says commanders told them to step on the heads of civilians, to behead them and do whatever they felt like,” Yingst said. “He went on to talk about how Hamas and ISIS are being compared. The interrogator asked him about this comparison, and he agreed. He said, we burned, we slaughtered, and beheaded people.”

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I would have never guessed it is Netanyahu who is reluctant about going in...
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #490 on: October 23, 2023, 02:30:11 pm »
Not good.


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The question is one of if this does become a regional conflict, which side will China support (aside from China)? Will this lead to more direct conflict between the US and Chinese forces?
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #491 on: October 23, 2023, 02:40:24 pm »
China will support Iran.

North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran are informally allied in an counter-American axis.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #492 on: October 23, 2023, 02:53:30 pm »
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Hamas reportedly releases two elderly Israeli women.
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NEW: Two Israeli hostages released from Gaza, a well-placed Israeli source tells Fox News.

Another source briefed on the matter has confirmed to Fox News that they were released following Qatari mediation efforts.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #496 on: October 23, 2023, 03:11:03 pm »
2 more hostages released by Hamas: report
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Two more hostages have been released by Hamas, according to CNN, which cites two Israeli officials and other sources.

It reported the captives were freed after following mediation by Qatar and Egypt.

One CNN source said the hostages were Israeli citizens and another said they were released to the Red Cross.

The outlet reported the newly-released hostages are not yet in Israel, and that they are both women.
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #497 on: October 23, 2023, 03:12:06 pm »
Hamas releases two more Israeli hostages: Nurit Cooper and Yocheved Lifshitz
The terror organization released two women, Israel confirmed.
By JERUSALEM POST STAFF, MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN, TOVAH LAZAROFF
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Two captives out of the 222 hostages Hamas abducted on October 7 were released from Gaza to Egypt on Monday night, Israel confirmed.

Nurit Cooper and Yocheved Lifshitz, both in their 80s from Kibbutz Nir Oz, were released to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC), which took them to the Rafah crossing where they were met by Israeli security officials.

Their husbands, also in their 80s, remain in captivity,

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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #498 on: October 23, 2023, 03:13:07 pm »
drip drip drip....Hamas will keep doing this to keep Israel/US from starting the ground war..
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Re: BREAKING....Thread 5...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON
« Reply #499 on: October 23, 2023, 03:24:09 pm »
China will support Iran.

North Korea, China, Russia, and Iran are informally allied in an counter-American axis.
Yep. There is no other reason for China's ships to be there, except to exert hegemony.

'Accidentally' hit one of our carrier groups, and the S will HTF: WWIII. Escalation could happen in a matter of minutes, not days. We're off balance and poorly led for such a situation, and Biden is no FDR to hang another term of getting us into conflict. Our manufacturing is behind even the ghost of itself of the mid 30s, and there has been no ramp up like with Lend Lease. Too many eggs are in technological baskets the bugs have not been shaken out of, including the Ford.

Add in that it seems everyone seems to have forgotten the horror of nuclear war, and the Muslims really don't care (shaheed and all that), and this is worse by far than the Cuban Missile Crisis, and led by an administration perfused with anti-American people who have other loyalties.
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