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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #150 on: October 03, 2023, 07:59:11 pm »
2026?

2026 won't mean shit if this thing unravels, and we don't have a working viable Speaker the rest of the term.  That same MSM that you rightfully villify 5X more if the GOP come across utterly inept and disorganized.

2026 is eons away and more problemtic , if we seal our fate this week.

Seems we're talking about two different things here...   :shrug:
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #151 on: October 03, 2023, 07:59:16 pm »
In reality, who the Speaker is makes very little difference.  What is needed is a larger GOP caucus with a clear House majority willing to control spending.  Absent a majority of House members being willing to do that (ignoring the Senate and Presidency for the moment...), who the Speaker is won't make a damn bit of difference.

That's what Gaetz & Co. either don't understand, or deliberately ignore.

Fully agree, positionally, but no one wants the job, and how is the House going to operate without formal leadership?
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #152 on: October 03, 2023, 08:01:10 pm »
Here we go.....
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #153 on: October 03, 2023, 08:02:23 pm »
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I support Motion to Vacate.

Speaker McCarthy has failed to demonstrate himself as an effective leader who will change the status quo.

He has gone against many of the promises he made in January and can no longer be trusted at the helm.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #154 on: October 03, 2023, 08:02:42 pm »
Voting to vacate the chair..
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #155 on: October 03, 2023, 08:03:42 pm »
I'm just going to say that whatever the end result of this entire process is, responsibility lies solely at the feet of Gaetz and his allies.  They get no points for their intention, desires, goals, etc..  All that matters is whether or not Gaetz's Motion puts us in a better or worse position.

They get elected for results, not for grandstanding.

Playing insider games, jockeying for position and seeking incremental gains has gotten us nothing.

Isn't there anyone in leadership who can be trusted to keep their word?

If the Pubs can't come up with a Speaker that can be trusted then why vote for them?
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #157 on: October 03, 2023, 08:05:47 pm »
Rep. Matt Gaetz
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I don’t think voting against @SpeakerMcCarthy
 is chaos.

I think $33 Trillion in debt is chaos.

I think not passing single-subject spending bills is chaos.

I think being governed by continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is chaos.

Chaos is somebody we cannot trust with their word.

That’s why I’ve moved to vacate the chair.

 :amen:

It's about time leadership was expected to keep their word!
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #159 on: October 03, 2023, 08:06:51 pm »
Does anyone have a link to a live tally by legislator?
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #160 on: October 03, 2023, 08:06:57 pm »
Fully agree, positionally, but no one wants the job, and how is the House going to operate without formal leadership?

Oh, I agree completely.  Vacating the Speakership when the Speaker still has the overwhelming support of the GOP caucus, and when there is no plan on how to proceed or consensus alternative candidate, is just asinine.

I'm just pointing out that everyone directing their ire at McCarthy for not being conservative enough aren't taking into account that there are not enough votes among Republicans for the kind of things Gaetz & Co are demanding, plus the willingness to endure a long shutdown to try to force the House and President to accept them.  That's not McCarthy's fault.  That's just who the voters sent to Washington this time around.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #161 on: October 03, 2023, 08:08:29 pm »

You fail to see the forest from trees.  No one is arguing the Gaetz' point  of how badly the fiscal house has been run.  But...  Before blowing it up, have to have a Plan B.    That is why this ouster vote needs to be defered to January 3, 2025.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #163 on: October 03, 2023, 08:09:58 pm »
Playing insider games, jockeying for position and seeking incremental gains has gotten us nothing.

Isn't there anyone in leadership who can be trusted to keep their word?

If the Pubs can't come up with a Speaker that can be trusted then why vote for them?

Maybe the republicans should relearn the lessons they used to know under Reagan about how to get things accomplished legislatively.  Hint:  it has nothing to do with making bombastic empty threats, grandstanding, or demanding all-or-nothing.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #164 on: October 03, 2023, 08:10:20 pm »
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"Boo all you want!"

Matt Gaetz goes off on RINOs complaining that Gaetz and others are asking for financial support from small donors.

"I'll be happy to fund my political operation through hardworking Americans and y'all keep showing up at the lobbyist fundraisers!"
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #166 on: October 03, 2023, 08:11:05 pm »
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Disgusting. @Jim_Jordan
 just gave a speech in support of @SpeakerMcCarthy
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Sell out!

So now Jim Jordan, @RepDonaldsPress
  @mtgreenee
 and @chiproytx
 have all said they won’t vote to remove @SpeakerMcCarthy
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These people are obstructionists to MAGA victories. We deserve better.

My only disagreement with her post.

It's not about MAGA victories, it's about having an open legislative process and ending the middle of the night backroom deals that everyone votes for and only a few know what's in the bill. I don't expect conservatives to get everything they want in a bill, but I want to know what's in it and what were the compromises.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #167 on: October 03, 2023, 08:12:23 pm »
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I take no lecture from those who would grovel and bend knee for the lobbyists and special interests who own our leadership, hollow out this town, and borrow against the future of our future generations.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #168 on: October 03, 2023, 08:13:02 pm »
I'll say this -- the emotions are very high among both those attacking McCarthy, and those defending him.  Assuming this Motion succeeds, the issue of the Speakership is not going to be resolved quickly.  McCarthy has more than enough strong supporters to kill the election of any alternative.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #169 on: October 03, 2023, 08:13:04 pm »
Just want to drop this here... you Never Trumpers have railed for years about deficits.

Anyone of you folks could have written this post by Gaetz.

And one particular gentleman already posted a "Pontius Pilate - wash my hands of the entire mess

Been telling you...live in the REAL world.

On one hand, Gaetz' post is noble and truthful.  Compliments to him for putting it out there just how all you deficit hawks are...shrieking pansies who think by holding a moral high ground will somehow get you reelected.

BTW... I love the idea of Donald Trump as Speaker of the House.

He'd be 3rd in line.   :laugh:

Other than Trump as Speaker, I'm with you!

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« Reply #170 on: October 03, 2023, 08:13:25 pm »
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Yea.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #171 on: October 03, 2023, 08:15:20 pm »
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I take no lecture from those who would grovel and bend knee for the lobbyists and special interests who own our leadership, hollow out this town, and borrow against the future of our future generations.

But, since nobody else is going to kow-tow to his bullying, he's going to blow it all up instead and hand the reins back to the democrats.  Please explain to us how having the democrats back in charge is going to do anything positive for future generations?

It's very nice that that is his stated intention, but his actions are not putting that into practice.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #172 on: October 03, 2023, 08:15:35 pm »
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JUST IN: @laurenboebert
 just voted against the Motion to Vacate @SpeakerMcCarthy
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Another sell out. She was originally against McCarthy being speaker in January. Now she’s caved again…
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #173 on: October 03, 2023, 08:16:34 pm »
It's very nice that that is his stated intention, but his actions are not putting that into practice.

The road to hell....

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #174 on: October 03, 2023, 08:18:21 pm »
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