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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #125 on: October 03, 2023, 07:14:48 pm »
I'm just going to say that whatever the end result of this entire process is, responsibility lies solely at the feet of Gaetz and his allies.  They get no points for their intention, desires, goals, etc..  All that matters is whether or not Gaetz's Motion puts us in a better or worse position.

They get elected for results, not for grandstanding.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #126 on: October 03, 2023, 07:16:50 pm »
Biggs is doing his best to show some level headed balance to Gaetz' mouth frothing.

My take?  Mc Carthy 100% needs to go, but do it January 3, 2025.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #127 on: October 03, 2023, 07:17:38 pm »
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Gaetz says that he is mad at McCarthy for passing a bill that was supported by 126 Republicans and 209 Democrats, and so he is aiming to oust him by having ~6 Republicans vote with every Democrat.
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« Reply #128 on: October 03, 2023, 07:18:31 pm »
Unbelievable!

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Gaetz is being forced to speak from the Democratic side of the House chamber because allies of Kevin McCarthy blocked all the other microphones.
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« Reply #129 on: October 03, 2023, 07:19:55 pm »
Unbelievable!

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Gaetz is being forced to speak from the Democratic side of the House chamber because allies of Kevin McCarthy blocked all the other microphones.

Well, Gaetz has allied himself with the entire Democratic caucus, so it seems rather fitting to me.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #130 on: October 03, 2023, 07:20:27 pm »
Rep. Matt Gaetz
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I don’t think voting against @SpeakerMcCarthy
 is chaos.

I think $33 Trillion in debt is chaos.

I think not passing single-subject spending bills is chaos.

I think being governed by continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is chaos.

Chaos is somebody we cannot trust with their word.

That’s why I’ve moved to vacate the chair.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #131 on: October 03, 2023, 07:21:47 pm »
Rep. Matt Gaetz
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I don’t think voting against @SpeakerMcCarthy
 is chaos.  I think $33 Trillion in debt is chaos. I think not passing single-subject spending bills is chaos. I think being governed by continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is chaos. 1Chaos is somebody we cannot trust with their word.

That’s why I’ve moved to vacate the chair.

So the question is: does this Motion make that chaos worse, or better?

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #132 on: October 03, 2023, 07:23:21 pm »
So the question is: does this Motion make that chaos worse, or better?

More Chaotic....  By a lot.  What if it takes the GOP 3 months to elect another Speaker, since no one seems to want the office.
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« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2023, 07:23:33 pm »
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Disgusting. @Jim_Jordan
 just gave a speech in support of @SpeakerMcCarthy
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Sell out!

So now Jim Jordan, @RepDonaldsPress
  @mtgreenee
 and @chiproytx
 have all said they won’t vote to remove @SpeakerMcCarthy
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These people are obstructionists to MAGA victories. We deserve better.
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« Reply #134 on: October 03, 2023, 07:25:25 pm »
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Disgusting. @Jim_Jordan
 just gave a speech in support of @SpeakerMcCarthy
.

Sell out!

So now Jim Jordan, @RepDonaldsPress
  @mtgreenee
 and @chiproytx
 have all said they won’t vote to remove @SpeakerMcCarthy
.

These people are obstructionists to MAGA victories. We deserve better.

Sell out indeed!   9999hair out0000
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #135 on: October 03, 2023, 07:26:13 pm »
Rep. Matt Gaetz
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I don’t think voting against @SpeakerMcCarthy
 is chaos.

I think $33 Trillion in debt is chaos.

I think not passing single-subject spending bills is chaos.

I think being governed by continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is chaos.

Chaos is somebody we cannot trust with their word.

That’s why I’ve moved to vacate the chair.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #136 on: October 03, 2023, 07:29:05 pm »
I have a question...  I keep hearing conflicting accounts on whether the 87K IRS agents are still in play legislatively.

Which is it?
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #137 on: October 03, 2023, 07:30:16 pm »
Rep. Matt Gaetz
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I don’t think voting against @SpeakerMcCarthy
 is chaos.

I think $33 Trillion in debt is chaos.

I think not passing single-subject spending bills is chaos.

I think being governed by continuing resolutions and omnibus bills is chaos.

Chaos is somebody we cannot trust with their word.

That’s why I’ve moved to vacate the chair.

Just want to drop this here... you Never Trumpers have railed for years about deficits.

Anyone of you folks could have written this post by Gaetz.

And one particular gentleman already posted a "Pontius Pilate - wash my hands of the entire mess

Been telling you...live in the REAL world.

On one hand, Gaetz' post is noble and truthful.  Compliments to him for putting it out there just how all you deficit hawks are...shrieking pansies who think by holding a moral high ground will somehow get you reelected.

BTW... I love the idea of Donald Trump as Speaker of the House.

He'd be 3rd in line.   :laugh:
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #138 on: October 03, 2023, 07:31:30 pm »
Sell out indeed!   9999hair out0000

I dunno.  I'd say that anytime you find yourself on the same side of an issue as Lora Loomer, you may want to rethink your position.

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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #139 on: October 03, 2023, 07:32:20 pm »
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OK, so here's McCarthy's current status.

House Rs expected to have 219
House Ds expected to have 208

That would be 214 to remove McCarthy. So McCarthy can only lose 5 votes.

Biggs, Gaetz, Good, Crane, Rosendale and Burchett have said they will vote against McCarthy. That's six right there.

Buck, Mace, Mills, Spartz and Davidson have all voted against tabling.

McCarthy is in deep trouble.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #140 on: October 03, 2023, 07:34:58 pm »
Just want to drop this here... you Never Trumpers have railed for years about deficits.

Anyone of you folks could have written this post by Gaetz.

And one particular gentleman already posted a "Pontius Pilate - wash my hands of the entire mess

Been telling you...live in the REAL world.




You fail to see the forest from trees.  No one is arguing the Gaetz' point  of how badly the fiscal house has been run.  But...  Before blowing it up, have to have a Plan B.    That is why this ouster vote needs to be defered to January 3, 2025.
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« Reply #141 on: October 03, 2023, 07:36:20 pm »
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Now Congressman Thomas Massie is standing with Kevin McCarthy, saying the best Speaker he's ever served under...

The Fix is in... the GOP is done... It's a joke.. They're all Uniparty Pieces of Trash..
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« Reply #142 on: October 03, 2023, 07:41:27 pm »

You fail to see the forest from trees.  No one is arguing the Gaetz' point  of how badly the fiscal house has been run.  But...  Before blowing it up, have to have a Plan B.    That is why this ouster vote needs to be defered to January 3, 2025.

Pray tell...then what? 
What's the plan to keep the House in November, 2026?  With a rabid media complex chewing you up 24/7?
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #143 on: October 03, 2023, 07:41:57 pm »
Gaetz' is about to hyperventilate from bloviation.

Take it down a notch Matt.   :cool:
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« Reply #144 on: October 03, 2023, 07:44:47 pm »
Is it just me, or are some of the people here advocating the hardest against McCarthy because he isn't doing more to cut the deficit the same people who argue in favor of Trump not cutting the deficit because it would be bad politically?

There certainly seems to be at least some overlap there....

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« Reply #145 on: October 03, 2023, 07:47:20 pm »
Pray tell...then what? 
What's the plan to keep the House in November, 2026?  With a rabid media complex chewing you up 24/7?

2026?

2026 won't mean shit if this thing unravels, and we don't have a working viable Speaker the rest of the term.  That same MSM that you rightfully villify 5X more if the GOP come across utterly inept and disorganized.

2026 is eons away and more problemtic , if we seal our fate this week.
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« Reply #146 on: October 03, 2023, 07:49:34 pm »
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Now Congressman Thomas Massie is standing with Kevin McCarthy, saying the best Speaker he's ever served under...

The Fix is in... the GOP is done... It's a joke.. They're all Uniparty Pieces of Trash..

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« Reply #147 on: October 03, 2023, 07:55:56 pm »
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #148 on: October 03, 2023, 07:56:22 pm »

You fail to see the forest from trees.  No one is arguing the Gaetz' point  of how badly the fiscal house has been run.  But...  Before blowing it up, have to have a Plan B.    That is why this ouster vote needs to be defered to January 3, 2025.

In reality, who the Speaker is makes very little difference.  What is needed is a larger GOP caucus with a clear House majority willing to control spending.  Absent a majority of House members being willing to do that (ignoring the Senate and Presidency for the moment...), who the Speaker is won't make a damn bit of difference.

That's what Gaetz & Co. either don't understand, or deliberately ignore.
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Re: Gaetz Has Filed Motion To Vacate the Chair
« Reply #149 on: October 03, 2023, 07:57:55 pm »
I think Acme Inc. has offical sponsorship of today's proceedings.  Today's flamethrowing has had the intellectual value of a Road Runner v. Coyote cartoon marathon.   What a shit show.
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