DeSantis rejects Trump’s ‘stolen’ election claims: ‘Of course he lost’

[libertybele]

Posted all over this forum for months.  If you're missing it, I can only assume you have me on "Ignore".

If this election were about your personal sensitivities, I would tell you to go with whatever floats your boat.  But, it is not. 

As to those federal charges, well, they're called criminal lawfare.  As unsettling as it is, you must at least try to understand how close this nation is to a complete totalitarian takeover of our government, judiciary and institutions.  The persecution of Donald Trump and his supporters is the ultimate push by the fascists among us to rip this nation from the anchors of its founding.  Please, stop rooting for their success.

@libertybele

Let me be crystal clear @Right_in_Virginia as you have clearly missed some of my posts. I am not in any way rooting for leftists who are destroying this country, nor am I rooting for the continual witch hunt of Donald Trump and his likely incarceration.

This country is in shambles and it's not new to you nor I.  I believe ONLY a true conservative can save this Republic.  You believe that ONLY Trump can save this Republic.  That's our difference.  I pray for our Republic and I also pray for Trump and his safety.

[libertybele]

There is a lopsided application of justice being applied to Donald Trump and his supporters and just generally anyone who disagrees with this administration. I’m not saying that Donald Trump is innocent of all the charges as that will have to be worked out in court. But there are examples after examples of ,in your face, unequal application of laws. It’s not even remotely subtle.

And this issue needs to be seriously addressed in a serious manner


But retribution is not, nor should it ever, be a reason to vote for somebody for president as the president you vote for today to get retribution is one day going to be out of office and the other side will have their chance at retribution

Very well stated @LMAO

[DB]

@DB Can you understand that I have not yet declared FOR ANY candidate in the 2024 GOP primary but most assuredly HAVE declared AGAINST several of them.

None of that has any bearing onn the truth of what I commented on.

"Please, stop rooting for their success." from what you quoted. Who here is rooting for their success? That brush is far too broad. It wasn't truthful and was an attempt to smear those who don't want Trump elected again. That was the first point I commented on.

[LMAO]

These approaches need to be done delicately though. If let’s say a president DeSantis gets in, and his DOJ starts investigating the accusations into the Biden crime family, that could be seen as political retribution by the public at large.

That may be one of the reasons why Donald Trump did not send his DOJ after Hillary Clinton after he defeated her in 2016. He probably didn’t want to appear that he was just seeking revenge on her. I disagreed with that decision because there was enough potential charges against Hillary Clinton to bring before a grand jury. But I wasn’t president then

But neither Hillary Clinton or the Biden family should get off Scott free. There is a problem there.

But our DOJ and FBI are thoroughly corrupt. And it should start with a major flushing out  of many of the department heads. Can you imagine what the country would look like if Merrick Garland got on the Supreme Court?

[Bigun]

"Please, stop rooting for their success." from what you quoted. Who here is rooting for their success? That brush is far too broad. It wasn't truthful and was an attempt to smear those who don't want Trump elected again. That was the first point I commented on.

I'm not going to go back and analyze the language @DB but I think the part you bolded refers to the lawfare bastards who are in fact destroying this country not Trump. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Let me be crystal clear @Right_in_Virginia as you have clearly missed some of my posts. I am not in any way rooting for leftists who are destroying this country, nor am I rooting for the continual witch hunt of Donald Trump and his likely incarceration.

This country is in shambles and it's not new to you nor I.  I believe ONLY a true conservative can save this Republic.  You believe that ONLY Trump can save this Republic.  That's our difference.  I pray for our Republic and I also pray for Trump and his safety.

I think it's funny that those who say "we can't let Biden and the Democrats continue to ruin this country" also wouldn't vote for DeSantis, etc. in the general election over Biden.

You don't get to play the "we must unite to defeat the Democrats" card if you aren't willing to unite around nominees other than Trump.

[DB]

I'm not going to go back and analyze the language @DB but I think that refers to the lawfare bastards who are in fact destroying this country not Trump. 

That language was directed at us. If you don't support Trump you are rooting for the fascists. That's how RIV operates, usually followed by a to show how clever she thought she was in doing it.

[Kamaji]

Let me be crystal clear @Right_in_Virginia as you have clearly missed some of my posts. I am not in any way rooting for leftists who are destroying this country, nor am I rooting for the continual witch hunt of Donald Trump and his likely incarceration.

This country is in shambles and it's not new to you nor I.  I believe ONLY a true conservative can save this Republic.  You believe that ONLY Trump can save this Republic.  That's our difference.  I pray for our Republic and I also pray for Trump and his safety.

Well put; however, Trump - based on his actual track record - won't do diddly to save the country.  Instead, based on what he's been saying, he'll be the same incompetent adminstrator he was before, but he'll spend most of his time and effort on retribution against those whom he thinks harmed him.

[Bigun]

That language was directed at us. If you don't support Trump you are rooting for the fascists. That's how RIV operates, usually followed by a to show how clever she thought she was in doing it.

I disagree! But that's OK.

[LMAO]

That language was directed at us. If you don't support Trump you are rooting for the fascists. That's how RIV operates, usually followed by a to show how clever she thought she was in doing it.

Lol…

Nailed it

[cato potatoe]

There is a lopsided application of justice being applied to Donald Trump and his supporters and just generally anyone who disagrees with this administration. I’m not saying that Donald Trump is innocent of all the charges as that will have to be worked out in court. But there are examples after examples of ,in your face, unequal application of laws. It’s not even remotely subtle.

And this issue needs to be seriously addressed in a serious manner

That can only happen if the republicans nominate a rational candidate.  With Trump the liberals are whipped into a feral state.  They don’t want a lunatic in charge, more of them don’t respect us, and they are willing to cross a line.

[DB]

I disagree! But that's OK.

Yes, it is ok. Take care.

[Kamaji]

Lol…

Nailed it

[LMAO]

That can only happen if the republicans nominate a rational candidate.  With Trump the liberals are whipped into a feral state.  They don’t want a lunatic in charge, more of them don’t respect us, and they are willing to cross a line.

And they’ve grown more emboldened after their 2022 midterm success in blocking a red wave by helping to nominate Trumpian candidates

From their perspective, I don’t blame them, especially when they can see that, at least for now, Trump is set to go on to be the GOP nominee again.

[Bigun]

And they’ve grown more emboldened after their 2022 midterm success in blocking a red wave by helping to nominate Trumpian candidates

From their perspective, I don’t blame them, especially when they can see that, at least for now, Trump is set to go on to be the GOP nominee again.

The GOPe did everything possible to tank candidates that they couldn't control Trumpian or not! And they won't stop until WE stop them!

[sneakypete]

Posted all over this forum for months.  If you're missing it, I can only assume you have me on "Ignore".

If this election were about your personal sensitivities, I would tell you to go with whatever floats your boat.  But, it is not. 

As to those federal charges, well, they're called criminal lawfare.  As unsettling as it is, you must at least try to understand how close this nation is to a complete totalitarian takeover of our government, judiciary and institutions.  The persecution of Donald Trump and his supporters is the ultimate push by the fascists among us to rip this nation from the anchors of its founding.  Please, stop rooting for their success.

@libertybele

@Right_in_Virginia

BINGO!!!!!!!!

[sneakypete]

And I suspect that if a good conservative governor like DeSantis were to win the nomination, you and people like you would vote for the DNC candidate.

See how easy that is?

@Maj. Bill Martin

DeSanctimonious has proven himself to  be  just  one more "Party Creature".

You are correct when you post that I will not vote for him.

[sneakypete]

Wrong - an election is exactly what we are facing.  The rest of it is just pointless chest-thumping.

@Maj. Bill Martin

BullBush!

Many of the ballots have already been cast,and in a safe somewhere with the DNC guarding it. Surprising no one,most of the ballots will be by people with Spanish last names that now live in Public Housing.

Aren't you SOOOO proud that you are voting with  them?

[sneakypete]

@LMAO

ROFLMAO!


@sneakypete

Can you identify anything that @LMAO posted that isn't true?  Please be specific.  Address the claims posted, and refrain from attacking assumed motives for posting them.  Thanks.

@Hoodat

Other than posting various versions of "Orange man BAD!" I can't remember any of it thanks to chemo brain,and I am NOT going to waste my  time looking for posts I responded to in "real time".

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Well put; however, Trump - based on his actual track record - won't do diddly to save the country.  Instead, based on what he's been saying, he'll be the same incompetent adminstrator he was before, but he'll spend most of his time and effort on retribution against those whom he thinks harmed him.

I think his proclivity to make politics personal has actually gotten worse over time, and that is very scary.

I listened to what he had to say about not signing the GOP primary pledge.  He sounds like he'd be willing to support Ramaswamy or  Scott because "they've been very nice to me.". He also mentioned that he had "great respect" for Kristi Noem because she wasn't running, and when asked why,  said that "nobody is going to beat Trump".

In other words, Trump's decision on what other Republicans he would support is based not on their policies, or experience, or competency, or the direction in which they'd take the country.  Rather, it is based on how nice they have treated him personally.

That is just despicable.

If any of the candidates would refuse to support another candidate because they truly believe that candidate's presidency would be bad for the country, I can respect that is a reason not to support the nominee.

But that's not Trump. He's not considering who would be good for the country - he just considers how nice/respectful they have been to him personally, putting his own individual ego over the welfare of the country.  And I have no doubt that's exactly how he govern if, by some miracle, he was elected President again.  Particularly in the context of foreign relations, that's just frightening.

[LMAO]

@sneakypete

Can you identify anything that @LMAO posted that isn't true?  Please be specific.  Address the claims posted, and refrain from attacking assumed motives for posting them.  Thanks.

See his above reply?

You didn’t really think any of what you requested was gonna happen with him did you?

[Kamaji]

I think his proclivity to make politics personal has actually gotten worse over time, and that is very scary.

I listened to what he had to say about not signing the GOP primary pledge.  He sounds like he'd be willing to support Ramaswamy or  Scott because "they've been very nice to me.". He also mentioned that he had "great respect" for Kristi Noem because she wasn't running, and when asked why,  said that "nobody is going to beat Trump".

In other words, Trump's decision on what other Republicans he would support is based not on their policies, or experience, or competency, or the direction in which they'd take the country.  Rather, it is based on how nice they have treated him personally.

That is just despicable.

If any of the candidates would refuse to support another candidate because they truly believe that candidate's presidency would be bad for the country, I can respect that is a reason not to support the nominee.

But that's not Trump. He's not considering who would be good for the country - he just considers how nice/respectful they have been to him personally, putting his own individual ego over the welfare of the country.  And I have no doubt that's exactly how he govern if, by some miracle, he was elected President again.  Particularly in the context of foreign relations, that's just frightening.

[Right_in_Virginia]

That language was directed at us. If you don't support Trump you are rooting for the fascists. That's how RIV operates, usually followed by a to show how clever she thought she was in doing it.

    @DB  I was responding to a specific post by a specific poster.   I don't know what you're feeling guilty about, but rest assured discovering what it is is not on my "give a sh*t" screen. 

Find a job, or a hobby, maybe take a walk with an actual friend .... just find something --- anything --- else to occupy the vast amounts of time you seem to spend focused on me.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Let me be crystal clear @Right_in_Virginia. I am not in any way rooting for leftists who are destroying this country, nor am I rooting for the continual witch hunt of Donald Trump and his likely incarceration.

As you wish @libertybele

I believe ONLY a true conservative can save this Republic.

I believe you. ----  which is why I don't get your passionate support for DeSantis, the Uniparty's chosen candidate.  But, I suppose I don't have to.   

[Maj. Bill Martin]

@Maj. Bill Martin

BullBush!

Many of the ballots have already been cast, and in a safe somewhere with the DNC guarding it. Surprising no one,most of the ballots will be by people with Spanish last names that now live in Public Housing.

Aren't you SOOOO proud that you are voting with  them?

Okay, so if you are right, then why do you care about this non-existent election anyway?  Why have you gotten so bent out of shape because DeSantis "stabbed Trump in the back" over an election when the votes are already cast and sitting somewhere in DNC safes?  The election is a farce, it doesn't matter...so why do you even care at all?

Don't feel bad - that nonsensical dichotomy of "it's all rigged and the Republicans don't stand a chance" plus "we all have to rally behind Trump to reelect him" seems to be very common among Trump supporters.

Doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but hey, you do you!